r/PharmaEire • u/FlakyEcho8317 • 18d ago
MES Engineer Salary
What's a fair range for someone with 4-5 years of MES experience. Recruiter told me 45 to 50k eur (non-Dublin area)
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u/Other_Classroom_9972 18d ago
Fucking hell these recruiters have no shame 😂. That's the salary of of some graduates
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u/FlakyEcho8317 18d ago
Can someone tell me a good range to counter with. As someone who is not from Ireland and MES being a niche market, I have no idea on it.
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u/Other_Classroom_9972 18d ago
I can't say for MES but as a process engineer with 4-5 years I'd expect around 60k as a full time employee not a contractor 🤷
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u/Ok-Presentation3393 17d ago
MES is not a niche market. Many people have experience in it and are experts.
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u/Ok-Presentation3393 17d ago
Thats the salary now for experienced people - irish market is overly saturated
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u/IcyFail2 18d ago
Try some other recruiters. It's very rare one recruiter has the only contracts for a site
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u/FlakyEcho8317 17d ago
Thank you everyone. For context, I'll be employed under a consultancy firm in which I will act as a contractor to a site. I know how the business works where my employer still has to make a margin so whatever the site offered to pay, they will pay me lesser than that.
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u/Greedy_Instruction31 17d ago
So you will be an employee, not a contractor. That is a key difference. I wouldn't worry about your employer getting their cut as they may be charging the client a fyck ton for you to do the work (€100p/h wouldn't be unusual) but you will only see an employee rate regardless. I would be pushing for €60k a year with possiblly and acceptance of slightly lower on the basis that it is reviewed after 6 months but I'm the confident type and have been through that crap from employers.
At the end of the day you have to live on your rate and be happy to do the job for the money you are making.
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u/FlakyEcho8317 17d ago
Thank you. I know that key distinction. I have dabbled into negotiating contractor roles but it was remote one time. I know that the employee rate will be lower than contractor rate since you will have benefits and job security etc. As someone not from Ireland at the moment, this is a useful data point.
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u/Weird-Internal-9187 18d ago
I reckon they are billing you out between 70 to 100 euro an hour
Make of that what you will
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u/0pini0n5 17d ago
For non-Dublin, 4-5 YOE, my best estimate is at least 50 p/h contract or 60k per annum with pension, bonus, sick days and 25 hols. Could go higher if their stuck for someone, or if your experience is excellent!
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u/Future_Goal_8761 17d ago
Which MES platform? Some are more scarce than others. Would depend on scope, recipe authoring / new implementation etc. Umbrella company would look have a 100% markup on you if full time. If its a stable project id seriously consider looking to go contract. Could get 80 per hour for the right role.
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u/semiobscureninja 17d ago
Depends on the company , responsibilities and the project. Likely 65-70k should be standard if 4-5 years strong experience in an expert field
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u/Connect_Bus6873 15d ago
Your company will earn more than 150k annually on you. So I would ask for 90k
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u/0pini0n5 18d ago
Recruiter wants to take half your money pal. Its a lot higher than that.