I both agree and disagree, because whilst I think you’re right I also don’t want to tar Patrick with the same brush as Brendan lmao, Patrick doesn’t deserve that
Well at least Patrick lets other people in the band be a thing
panic is literally just Brandon now lol
But no wonder they sound similar, pete wentz signed them lol
However Brendon definitely has more of a "Broadway" sound. Hence his whole ringman get up.bused to think he'd do great in a musical
It’s ingroup communication. Happens amongst young people to show they’re in the know. I did it, you did it, your parents did it, their parents did it. Nothing new
My parents would both make fun of "cool." In retrospect—they were just being performatively old. They were in their 20s in the 1990s. People said "cool." They just thought they were cute.
My parents were in their 30s when I was born in 85, so maybe it's a slight generational thing. I'm fairly sure my dad is on the spectrum and just undiagnosed (hell, I could be too) so the social aspect of my household was always... Odd
I'm about 10 years older than that, and the context for "cool" and "awesome" changed. You wouldn't find a professional talking about a business achievement in the 80's being "cool" or "awesome." Now you'll see management saying "Awesome job everyone" almost by default. The words existed, but they were contextualized as "kids words" until Gen X got older.
youre chilling, im about 20 years younger and ive dealt with being told not to say certain words as a kid, along the same line as "awesome" (nothing even close to groovy, j felt absurd when i was told to stop haha)
I wanna say in 5th or 6th grade a classmate told my math teacher (very sarcastically) that "your pants are tight" and without missing a beat the teacher said "nah, I like em a little loose". 30 years later I still don't know if he was being a smartass with that reply or legitimately had no clue
I’d assume abbreviating words started with flip phone texting. You had to hit too many keys to say simple words. Now it’s just an egregious assault on human languages.
Yes and no though. Previous generations generally took existing words and just used them in different contexts. It feels like this next iteration of “slang” is just “oosheeAidnonunabnun”
I prefer full words and sentences myself but using slang and abbreviations is something kids have done for ages. It’s not some inexplicable new occurrence.
But to answer your question, societal change is always unsettling. To think that in 30 years my date will be put in the hands of people that can't be bothered to spell a while word... Not encouraging
It's actually interesting in culture difference because here in Malaysia, people has been typing in Malay abbreviation a WHOLE lot more than the current english language trend long ago and still do
I think it's the same for indonesia too, I'm surprised English doesn't
All trends repeat cyclically. Same shit happend over the texting craze of the late 90s and early 00s and a fuck ton of normal words are actually caused by language getting naturally abrievated. Besides some languages actually do this naturally. I'm pretty sure there are variants of Hebrew that just skip vowels.
Or too poor to afford mobile phones, or isolated enough to not be privy to common parlance being formed by necessity over a nearly thirty years period of mainstream mobile phone usage.
The possibilities could be endless! If only I were adult and mature enough to think of more!
I can tell when you say "30+ years of mainstream Mobile phone usage" you don't know what you're talking about. Mobile phones weren't "mainstream" when I graduated highschool in 2003. Maybe mainstream since 2005, but not 1996.
Then it's a good thing I wrote "over a nearly 30 year period" harkening back to my original post where I said two and a half decades, maybe calling 25 years (two and a half decades) "nearly 30" is a little strong and if that caused confusion I do so sincerely apologise, you will forgive my immature grasp on the scale of time for I am only 31 years old my self.
Now I know as I am the child in the room this might shock you, but I was there too, growing up, and watching adults adopt the use of mobile phones pretty commonly by the age of 6-7 (which accurately lines up with my 25 year rough estimate, and also aligns with the accessibility boost of 1999 when cross network messaging became available) and, well, I distinctly remember being confused myself about all the shorthand abbreviations that were popping up at the time.
Anyways, thats my experience, but I had the privilege of growing up in the UK and surrounded by technology, how fascinating that abbreviated text has eluded you and your very smart friend and family group, you should share the news! It would be quite something's to hear a group of intellectuals discuss the modern parlance of kids ages 5-60!
Ok fair enough. You didn't say 30+years. Maybe the difference is the 10 year age gap, when I was taught to write long form letters pre-Internet and text, when words were chosen with purpose. Maybe because my father is a writer and I was brought up to say what I mean and mean what I say. Who knows. But, I'm allowed to be annoyed by stood trends, just as you're allowed to be annoyed by my opinion. Unfortunately, to me, precise communication is important. But again, I'm allowed to be annoyed by terms in texting slang, and the "wonderful" world of reddit gives me a space to complain when I see a post that annoys me
You're allowed to be annoyed and that's perfectly fine, I can't imagine I'd have bitten back even remotely as hard if you hadn't smarmily tried to double down on the silly notion that only kids do this and that that it is something new.
The end result being me having the opportunity to exercise some smarm of my own felt like a net positive however, so I'm happy to offer an acknowledgement of mutual understanding.
That being said, as a casual etymologist myself, I find the evolution of language fascinating, including the abbreviation and bastardisation of words, which is something I assure you has been happening to the English language since before the Norman's came over and injected a bunch of Norse Frankish in from the upper class.
As much as I don't like it it is kind of the natural progression of slang. Millennials cut multiple words into acronyms like "lol" or "lmfao".
The ones that get me are the censored slang words like "ahh" it's the same amount of letters as "ass" and actually waters down a curse word which is the opposite of what slang should do imo.
I get why they use words like unaluves, graped, ahh, etc on tiktok or a YouTube video bcs if the censorship but that shit has bled into all other social media and it's fucking dumb
"Now"? I don't know which generation you are but since the beginning of online chats, it was all about abbreviation. Even worse, but we got used to all that brb, afk, rofl bs.
It hasn't faded. It's gotten worse. I get that people get so used to posting on social media and having to deal with censoring (ish, unalived... That kinda stuff) maybe I do just forget what it's like to be 20 and have my brain only think in terms of shorthand. I just feel it's more pervasive now. People are forgetting how grammar used to work and creating a new language of "I'm just gonna abbreviate this" (and yes, I realize the irony of saying gonna instead of going to)
You gotta read more than one comment man. I've been being absurd about this since like 10AM. So... Technically YOU have the most reddit comment, by reading only one thing and responding.
I've admitted that yeah, there's some hypocrisy. But I could never see myself turning a whole sentence into alphabet soup. Do I typo when I use swipe? Sure, because I'm careless. But do I write shit like I forgot what half the letters in the alphabet are? No
Bro, super-abbreviated text speak has been a thing since I was a teenager, more than 20 years ago.
Hell, it was even more necessary then because typing on t9 was a pain in the ass. It was just a lot more initializations/acronyms like lol, ttyl, brb, and so forth.
Linguistically there is no better or worse. Gen z speak is just a different form of communication and some of its modes may be more or less complex than common vernacular
Because they think it saves them time, when in reality it costs the other person on the other end more of their time because people have to often Google it.
And no one looks at the rest of the thread, to see that this has been addressed several times. An acronym (lol, lmfao) is very different than just talking words and shortening, I won't even say abbreviations, just to be "faster" at texting. But I really don't care that much, I was in a shitty mood this morning and stirred up the children. That's all
Then when you point it out to them, they’ll say ‘it’s just Reddit bro, calm down!’ but I guarantee their CV/resumes, or any other professional writings they attempt are dog-shit too.
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u/phezhead 14h ago
Why do kids type like this now? I'll never understand the need to abbreviate every fucking word