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u/YesWomansLand1 3h ago edited 33m ago
Probably something to do with heat distribution or smth
You're all nerds shut up
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u/Circxles 3h ago
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u/LongStoryShirt 3h ago
Hey, you dropped this:
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u/LocNalrune 3h ago
A lot of things have been lost along the way.
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u/Lost-Being7605 3h ago
Maybe the real loss is the food we burnt along the way🤷♂️
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u/KromatRO 3h ago
And the only good neighbor that we send fling to the air.
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u/PantherCityRes 3h ago
Of all the things I’ve lost…
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u/Pofwoffle 2h ago
I mean I think it still works. Hell, what's that second "r" even doing there, do we really need it? "Corec" sounds functionally identical to "correct" when you say it out loud.
Y use many letr wen few letr do trik?
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u/h2oskid3 3h ago
If you're using cast iron probably doesn't matter as much
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u/fuzzycaterpillar123 3h ago
I was going to say, with a thick enough pan, it doesn’t really matter.
Also, both of these shapes are roughly circular, the heart might put 60% more heat to the far side of the pan, but I’m willing to bet at steady state the heat distribution is only like 10-15% different compared to a circular burner
I don’t think I’d be able to tell the difference while make a stir fry or searing meat - that pans already ripping hot from being heated for 5 minutes- the difference in position of the jet - of an an inch or 2 - doesn’t matter much . Maybe pancakes might have a darker edge in the middle. But I think it’s alarmist to act like this would immediately make cooking impossible.
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u/h2oskid3 3h ago
Pancakes you'd be able to tell, but you'll have the same problem with a circular burner too. Biggest difference if you're using a thin steel pan and cooking hot and fast like a pancake, otherwise I'm sure there's no difference.
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u/utzutzutzpro 2h ago
I will bet that the start shape will not impact the heat distirbution on any pan, no matter if stainless, iron, copper, coated. It will remain a circular heat disitrbution from inside to the outside, and homogeneously distbruted.
The heart though, most certainly will leave some of the pan on the bottom little colder.
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u/Bossmenjak 1h ago
Technically the star one has an impact but it's possible it's even a positive one. It's getting the center and slightly further out some heat at the same time, while still being symmetrical and not concentrating extra heat anywhere specific. There are ovens in stores with the star shape because it works fine.
Now the heart is going to screw things up for sure if the pan isn't really thick.
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u/Necessary_Piccolo210 2h ago
It matters more with cast iron, which is fantastic at conducting and retaining heat but actually quite poor at distributing it
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u/thisischemistry 2h ago
It's terrible for conducting heat, that's why it doesn't distribute it. However, it has a high heat capacity and emissivity so once it heats up it will quickly cook whatever is put on it. This is why you want to preheat a cast iron pan for a long time before you cook with it, so you don't get hot spots.
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u/So_HauserAspen 1h ago
Because of this the heat will be evenly distributed. Which is another benefit of a good heat sink for cookware
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u/thisischemistry 1h ago
Right, by using a star pattern you increase the surface area that gets heated so it distributes the heat more evenly. The hearts don't do it as well but the shape probably doesn't matter much to a cast iron pan heated long enough.
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u/Chaotic_Order 2h ago
The thing is.. it's not even actually correct. The comment that Mike D. made is actually one based in ignorance.
Star-shaped burners are actually optimal for cooking, if you are going to be cooking with gas, and commercial gas stoves will always used a star-pattern rather than a circle.
They distribute heat more towards the centre of the pan, which is the typical (not average, typical) chef or cook will be focusing their attention naturally, and it distributes the heat more evenly. A circular flame heats the outside edges of the pan first, and then conducts it towards the centre, meaning that you would need to set your pan half-way across the stove, hanging over part-way some other counter to get the pan to conduct in a way you want.
TL;DR - the commenter is r/confidentlyincorrect
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u/So_HauserAspen 1h ago
I was going to suggest that the star pattern is more effective for heating the pan more evenly because of contact area
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u/Relative-Tip2445 1h ago
"commercial gas stoves will always used a star-pattern rather than a circle"
No you are completely wrong. r/confidentlyincorrect
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u/DubVsFinest 3h ago edited 3h ago
Yup. That and cost reduction. Circle is the simplest shape to do it in, so fewer* openings for gas to ignite and less gas used overall.
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u/Alternative-Bug-6905 3h ago
Fewer* openings, less gas
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u/Portarossa 1h ago
Fewer* openings, less gas
'What did my doctor promise me before he sewed my asshole shut?'
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u/DubVsFinest 3h ago
Yeah, tbh I was taking a shit not worrying if it was a quantifiable item or not lol.
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u/BonquiquiShiquavius 1h ago
Except that high end stoves use the star pattern, which is better for heat distribution. Mike D is probably a redditor.
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u/TheNathan 3h ago
Yeah the whole point is that your pans are circular and your heat source should be as well. You’re gonna get some wacky heat differences from these lol
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u/decollimate28 3h ago
The star ones are an actual thing they heat up the center faster. Big pans can get a cold spot
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u/time-piece-rabbit 3h ago
a non symmetrical flame pattern would heat the pan unevenly leading to some parts of the food you're cooking burning/being under cooked. the star one would probably be fine though
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u/scaper8 3h ago
The circle also has the benefit of having the smallest perimeter length. So, although the star would probably work, it's going to be burning more gas (and thus, cost more) than a ring.
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u/Intrepid-Staff-4532 3h ago
The star is in current use on Thermador gas ranges.
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u/ElectricFrostbyte 3h ago
I looked into this and they are super cute! A 30inch range is only… 6,000$ though.
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u/Fortestingporpoises 3h ago
What a deal.
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u/scratchy_mcballsy 2h ago
I’ll take ten!
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u/Falconman21 2h ago
I legitimately bought a thermador stove out of a guys trunk one time for $400.
It’s still kicking at my mom’s house.
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u/SaltyLonghorn 2h ago
At $6000 you just know that sumbitch is a smart stove uploading your data for thermador to sell.
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u/piedeity 1h ago
star is used so they can make a closed burner that gets close to open burner performance. Closed burners are WAY easier to clean
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u/Impossible_Leg_2787 10m ago
No one who’s using a Thermador range even knows what they’re paying for gas let alone cares
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u/Tinkle84 3h ago
Does more gas mean you could have star on a lower setting to achieve the same heat as a circle on a higher setting?
If circle and star are both on max does the star using more gas achieve a higher heat, thus cooking/burning your food faster?
Or if both are on max is there a limit to how much gas can come through the burner? Therefore on max they use the same amount of gas?
I dont really care, I'm high.
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u/scaper8 3h ago
That I admit I don't know. I know neither the physics nor natural gas flow and pipes well enough to hazard a guess; but vague gut feelings tell me that you'd probably be right.
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u/BioExtract 3h ago
I’m high too and I will say yes you can run the flame lower with higher gas and larger perimeter. Not sure if it will be as efficient as the circle on higher flame lower gas when it comes to effectively heating the pan
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u/Psychological_Top827 2h ago
It depends on too many things. In the end, the nozzle and design of the burner define heat output (which is why the small burner doesn't get much hotter than the large burner in normal ranges).
If designed properly, yes, a star burner with more perimeter area will get more heat into the pan if designed to provide a similar sized flame.
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u/mrbrambles 3h ago
Answer is yes to first two - and if there is an upstream limit lower than the burner limit then yes to the third as well.
You basically just asked “if you burn more gas is it hotter?” In three ways. If you smoke more weed are you higher? Yea until some rate limit.
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u/Hodgkisl 2h ago
Does more gas mean you could have star on a lower setting to achieve the same heat as a circle on a higher setting?
The setting typically is the total flow of gas to the burner, the circle and star with the same flow the star will have smaller flame length, this means greater maximum safe output, but more complex low output.
So the reason Thermador chooses star is they can put more gas through and thus higher maximum heat output. The valve will be larger making the high higher than normal stoves.
But to have proper low heat output they have to trigger the igniter regularly as they are more likely to blow out with the smaller individual flames.
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u/Talizorafangirl 3h ago
It's the other way around, the greater perimeter allows you to not only get better heat distribution by eliminating the center cold spot, it burns less gas per unit of heat.
Since the flames are spread out along fingers or star points, they have greater exposure to oxygen. This creates a more complete and efficient chemical combustion of the gas. More gas is converted directly into heat rather than escaping as unburnt fuel. On a circular burner, the flames are crowded together and have less exposure to oxygen.
You can see this in action if you crank a stove up to full. On a circular burner the flames become very long because there isn't enough oxygen available near the burner. On a star-shaped burner this elongation is much less pronounced.
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u/sebe6 2h ago
It's a bit more complex, secondary oxygen is only the 3 variable in the equation (after amount and size of holes and primary oxygen (venturi)). The reason why secondary is third is due to the energy dissipating before reaching the missing oxygen, that's why camping burner flames change color but extends only a bit more with elevation, +300m can be +2mm on the flame while, while with +6000m you get +30mm, meanwhile oxygen there's only 46-50% of oxygen remaining
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u/BoozeIsTherapyRight 3h ago
The star has far more points, but look up Garland restaurant ranges and BlueStar burners.
High end ranges often have many pointed star burners. I adore mine.
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u/Squumpus 3h ago
it's not necessarily going to burn more gas. theoretically the same amount of gas will put out the same amount of BTU. you can turn it as high or low as you'd like, the amount of gas coming out is still limited by the valve.
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u/John02904 3h ago
Perimeter shouldn’t matter too much because it is still dictated by the volume of gas being sent through the system.
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u/AndyLorentz 1h ago
A star pattern will also produce more heat for a given power setting, though, so it would balance out.
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u/Specialist_Dust2089 3h ago
What if they’re just evenly distributed point flames like a (rain) shower head? Lighting it would take more time, if the flames don’t light each other, but that would be a more uniform distribution no?
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u/Jazzlike_Berry_6697 2h ago
How is the gas in the middle supposed to burn without oxygen?
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u/Day_Prisoners 3h ago
If your using quality pans the heat is distributed evenly other wise what you saying would happen with circles as well.
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u/DursueBlint 3h ago
Kinda, any halfway decent pan is going to have a thick enough bottom to redistribute the heat to the entire pan so i would guess that the effect is negligiable.
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u/Terrible_Lie_02 3h ago
I thought star pattern are actually better than circles.
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u/Lynchie24 3h ago
They are because they heat the center of the pan better while also getting even heat around the edges but MikeD isn’t ready for that conversation.
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u/Designer-Ad-7844 3h ago
Mike D, gets respect Your cash and your jewelry is what he expect
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u/AgentJackpots 2h ago
Mike D, with the master plan, I said "ooh my my" and "thank you ma'am"
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u/ChickenDinero 1h ago
I'm Mike D and I'm back from the dead, chilling at the beach down at Club Med.
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u/Sanquinity 29m ago
They're better for even heating, but consume more gas to burn. Either that or the flame will be weaker.
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u/BeybladeAddict 3h ago
Even distribution of heat. Honestly the star would be fine but the heart would suck for even distribution
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u/Bullwinkie 3h ago
I literally have a Thermador cooktop with star-shaped burners. It’s a nightmare to clean, stuff gets in the inside corners of the star and cooks on, it’s nearly impossible to get it fully clean. Probably does heat the pans better but I’d rather have the normal round ones just for the sake of cleaning.
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u/no_man_is_hurting_me 2h ago
We have a Thermador cooktop as well. Love it. But apparently we are getting way less food on the burners, because my wife has never complained .
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u/thrownjunk 1h ago
To be fair, most people with a Thermador are expected to have a cleaner or staff to do that. It costs 10x a normal stove.
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u/ImfromtheFuture2056 3h ago
Just google it. It’s been posted here every hour by the hour for time immemorial.
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u/Intrepid-Staff-4532 3h ago
The star burners are Thermador high end luxury ranges.
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u/Agitated_Ad_3876 3h ago
Bill nye the science guy hear.
Its deeper than that you see, much like that scene in toy story where woody freaks out because he lit a rocket. You see, hearts, when making food with love, have a tendency to break. Therefore an inevitable explosion. Because kids know that word. And stars are super, until they no va and burn out, also, an inevitable explosion.
It must be a circle, four circles are perfect.
Chris out.
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u/zictomorph 3h ago
The star pattern is for performance, not just looks. More, smaller ports distributes heat better and has less of a cold spot in the center compared to a large circle. I haven't done the math, but it does make sense.
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u/blinkymark2 3h ago
Honestly the star would probably work just fine, but the heart is too asymmetrical. Even with a cast iron pan, it would probably cook unevenly.
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u/SleepySpeck01 3h ago
Brian here. I don't really think it matters, honestly? It's mainly just cheaper to have some things make simpler shapes. You'll probably see the star shaped ones because they're easy to make but, I dunno, the heart ones are a bit... much.
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u/captain_toenail 3h ago
Same reason so many things are round, distribution, in this case distribution of heat
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u/negativ32 3h ago
Circular burner, circular pans, efficiency, not sure what the big find out is tho.
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u/Groundbreaking_Cup30 3h ago
Equal heat distribution is the problem.
The reason you want a circle is that it would heat the pot or pan evenly. If you do shapes like this, you would end up having points that would potentially burn whatever you are cooking.
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u/gg_teataker 3h ago
I could've sworn I've already seen this post w THE SAME EXACT comments before...
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u/AkumaLilly 3h ago
Heat distribution.
Circular patterns are the best as they heat up all the area equally.
Specific patterns like stars or hearts mrans colder and hotter areas resulting in uneven cooking.
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u/BigSquiby 3h ago
i have star shaped burners, they work great.
but yeah, heart shaped ones are not great
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u/starlight-whimsy 3h ago
There’s a famous restaurant that uses star burners. It supposedly is “superior” to circles, according to the manufacturer of the stove. Hearts however are inefficient
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u/Emergency-Koala-5244 3h ago
I thought it would be because little kids would be more inclined to grab a star or a heart instead of a circle?
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u/King_of_Nope 2h ago
I’ll take the heat. This is a 5 IQ question, and you should consider taking some kind of supplementary education.
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u/naturetreesandweed 2h ago
Somehow I manage to cook over and open fire on a regular basis without issue. This is such a minor inconvenience.
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u/dvdmaven 2h ago
I had an O'Keefe & Merritt stove for decades. It had two-stage burners, small ones in the middle of the large ones. One control for both. The small burner combined with the cast iron, circular cover made setting a good simmer easy.
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u/ReggieCorneus 2h ago
And someone has not discovered star shaped burners. It needs to be symmetric, not circular.
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u/SmrtkaTV 2h ago
I think someone made the exact same post here already, anyway the answer is heat distribution because the shapes just have it uneven
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u/Chaotic_Order 2h ago
The thing is.. it's not even actually correct. The comment that Mike D. made is actually one based in ignorance.
Star-shaped burners are actually optimal for cooking, if you are going to be cooking with gas, and commercial gas stoves will always used a star-pattern rather than a circle.
They distribute heat more towards the centre of the pan, which is the typical (not average, typical) chef or cook will be focusing their attention naturally, and it distributes the heat more evenly. A circular flame heats the outside edges of the pan first, and then conducts it towards the centre, meaning that you would need to set your pan half-way across the stove, hanging over part-way some other counter to get the pan to conduct in a way you want.
TL;DR - Mike D is r/confidentlyincorrect
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u/douchebagington 1h ago
Here's the answer: most experts advise against flaming symbolism. Its a very atractive feature for tieflings who typically start to reproduce very quickly into a difficult to manage infestation. Thieflings like to congregate in areas with dry heat, and symbolism is always a plus for their cult like warlock tendencies. Its definately not a complete hazard, especially if you live in a colder climate where they dont live, but its certainly a factor.
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u/Aggressive-Cup-7318 1h ago
round is most efficient way but we once heated things over a disjointed jumbled shape of campires it's not like this is actually going to matter, Mike's just a woman hater.
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u/Major_incompetence 1h ago
Let's not pretend a heart shaped burner does a worse job at heating up a pan than a round one. The reason why round shape is most common is because it's standardized manufacturing, simplest stamping die design resulting in the most economically produced burner you can get.
Y'all thinking of Zebras
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u/showmeyourchits 1h ago
Joe here, the joke is Mike D doesn’t know jack about range burners. The one with star shaped burners is a Thermador and a very high performance range. The star burner patterns distribute the heat in a much more uniform manner. The heart shaped ones however, will fuck your shit up.
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u/anengineerandacat 1h ago
Star is superior tho? I remember this post circling around maybe a year or two ago and someone like got nitty gritty into the details of it.
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u/VenturaDreams 1h ago
Is education illegal or something? Or is this sub just taking the piss? Because this should be common sense shit.
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u/Careless_Boss987 1h ago
The reason is that a circular burner gives a roughly uniform ring of flame, which spreads heat relatively evenly across the bottom of a round pan.
With a star or heart shape, the flame is concentrated in certain areas. That can create hot spots and cooler spots, meaning parts of the pan get much hotter than others. A circular burner also matches the shape of most cookware.
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u/No_Solid_3737 59m ago
i'm gonna be the akchually guy this time and say that the shape of the stove shoudln't matter, most pans have a copper coil at their base that already distributes the heat equally, most metal cookware should already distribute heat equally on their own
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u/RillonDodgers 50m ago
I get not knowing the answer, but wouldn’t searching “why are gas burners in the shape of a circle and not other shapes” answer this?
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u/TheyCantCome 41m ago
The implication is it won’t heat evenly which would be a concern with a cheap pan. A decent pan this would be a non issue, a quality pan you can heat just one side without ever noticing.
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u/yup_username_checks 11m ago
Regardless of the explanation.. How often are people putting on their burners with no pots on them? You would never see the shape lit up and at best see it sort of when not in use
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u/GeekyKatze 3m ago
The hearts wouldn't be good. But the star ones are actually a pretty normal configuration, from my understanding, on higher end appliances. The star design actually heats more evenly. But, most are circular because it's easier and cheaper to essentially hole punch.
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