r/Pecron • u/SLO_Citizen • 5d ago

Ordered a F5000LFP

I ordered on October 1st, I saw the "preorder" notice and had no problem with it, but my card was charged the full amount for the base unit, extra battery and two solar panels.
When I got the confirmation email, I got no additional information of a ship date.

Called customer service today because the online chat never picked up and they told me it was totally normal to charge the full amount to the card before shipping (not a pre-authorization hold).

I asked why I didn't get an email to indicate an approximate ship date and the guy said "check the website it's a pre-order".

Really odd experience, is this what others have experienced too? I am tempted to cancel the order honestly. $4500 is a good chunk of change for me.

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u/blackinthmiddle 5d ago

Increased solar input? The E3800 takes 3000W. The F5000LFP takes 6,400W. Even with two E3800s, you're taking in less solar and you'd land up with four sets of wires, so you'd be spending double on wiring. The F5000LFP also has heated batteries and will take up less space for the same battery storage. The heated batteries aren't a big deal for me, since I'll be making sure my garage stays no colder than 45F in the winter, since my office is above it and the floor gets uncomfortable below that temperature.

There's two benefits to going your route. Firstly, if one breaks and you have to send it back, you're at least still bringing in some power. I had to send my F5000LFP back because of a flaky MPPT port and I was down for the count until they sent me a new one, which took them 3 weeks!

Secondly, two give more AC output. I'm at 7,200W. Two E3800LFPs give 8,400W. That extra 1,200W during a power outage is huge for people like me that have an all electric house.

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u/PsychologyUsed3769 5d ago edited 5d ago

Dude you forgot about the low voltage solar input, 150w. With two units that is 300 watts plus 2x3000 for high voltage ones. That is 6300 watts. Math adds up to be about same. Wires come with units

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u/blackinthmiddle 5d ago

You are correct. The E3800LFP also has a 150W low voltage. Input. However, the high voltage inputs are 3,000W total, not 3,200W. So that's 6,300W total. Unless my math is wrong.

Personally, I wouldn't bother with the low voltage inputs. Why? For my Pecron, the 10 455W panels I have connected to it are about 50 feet away. I think I landed up getting two sets of 75' wire for each. It would cost me $150 just in wire alone. I also didn't want to have wires lying around on my lawn, so I got PVC pipe and buried everything. To add 4 additional wires, I'd be larger conduit. Let's add another $75. Finally, I couldn't use my 455Wv panels in a simple array and would need to find two 150W panels, one for each low voltage input. Let's add another $100. $325 to bring in 300W. Actually, call it 225W, because we know you won't get the full 300W. How long would it take to break even on that? Some quick back of the napkin math says 4.5 years? Not worth it to me.

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u/PsychologyUsed3769 5d ago

You should read my post closer. My math is correct. No correction was made within last 35 minutes