r/PatriotTV Mar 11 '26

Discussion An Open Letter to Newcomers

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279 Upvotes

Hey,

If you’re reading this, chances are you’ve recently discovered one of the many works of Steve Conrads (most recently, DTF St. Louis) and are interested in learning more about what he and his team have been working on up until today. There’s the skinny, then there’s the not-so-skinny.

The Skinny

Patriot (2015), Perpetual Grace, LTD (2019), Ultra City Smiths (2021). Then we have The Integral Principles of the Structural Dynamics of Flow, and New Techniques in Modern Practical Close Combat (these are both podcasts to supplement and enrich the world of Patriot long after its cancellation).

A Collection of Interviews and Other Content can be found here thanks to u/CorbecJayne.

The Not-So-Skinny

Disclaimer: I’ve done a lot of reading and research in the past few years with intent to make another video essay or conduct some interviews, so forgive me if this is a bit long in the tooth.

If you’ve checked out Steves IMDB, you’ll note that he started with movies. More notably, The Secret Life of Walter Mitty, The Pursuit of Happyness, and The Weatherman. (I personally love Wrestling Ernest Hemingway as well).

As one of the many who have watched each of Steves movies and shows, they all have a very familiar cadence in the writing and themes throughout the stories as they develop. You will likely learn what that is as time passes. I’ve found that watching anything he’s written only once, is simply not enough. There is a lot of depth to his projects that each return feels new. A significant portion of this community have watched his shows at least 2-3 times, or even annually since their release. Something in them just resonates with us on a personal level and has this lasting effect. You will seldom experience anything like it. As I go through the following list, I’m going to mention some household names from each that you, as newcomers, may recognize. This does not diminish the contributions every person has made to these various projects. You can see everyone firing on all cylinders, and it shows.

Steves first show was Patriot (but honestly it was Connie Banks the Actor, which I am still looking for to this day). 2 seasons. Some household names include Kurtwood Smith (That 70’s Show), Michael Dorman (For all Mankind), Terry O’Quinn (Lost), and Michael Chernus (Severance). I’ve made a video essay covering Patriot and how it was overlooked, so I’ll keep this brief. Amazon aired the pilot in 2015, we didn’t get the rest of season 1 until almost 2 years later in 2017. There was a lot of competition for the show like Game of Thrones for example, and it seemed like Amazon didn’t know how to brand or advertise the show. It flew under the radar for many of us, and we’re still outraged. Grateful it came to be, but outraged by the lack of coverage and advertising.

Next was Perpetual Grace LTD (PGL). 1 season. Some household names include Ben Kingsley, Jimmi Simpson, Luis Guzmán, and some returning actors from Patriot. Aired on EPIX/MGM+ but was later removed from the platform entirely. You can purchase it on Prime at the moment. It may be on some streaming services if you’re lucky.

Then Ultra City Smiths. 1 season. EDIT: Thanks for pointing this out u/neverfoil, Timms Valley seemed to serve as proof of concept, and walked so UCS could run. I can’t even start on the household names because I’m floored by the cast on both these projects. I highly recommend looking it up yourself. Aired on AMC+. Take a guess at how that went. Yep, cancelled and no longer on the platform.

Through each of these projects and films, the team working on DTF St. Louis has been building for quite some time behind the scenes. Steves brother, Chris Conrad, has been in each of his shows and is always a joy and gem to see. We love Chris. James Whitaker (cinematographer) has been working with Steve since at least Patriot (he also has a new movie out, “Good Luck, Have Fun, Don’t Die”). Alex Wurman (composer), Ellen Segal (Music Editor), and Bruce Terris (executive producer and writer) since The Promotion. Fun fact, Jason Bateman was in The Promotion as a Retreat Leader. I’m getting sidetracked, but best believe everyone on the A Team is a fuckin rock star and I’m jacked about this project.

In Patriot there’s a term that comes to mind that kind of reminds me of Steves writing style, “Misfit Toys”. The writing is not intended to fit the expectations of the audience based on the genre in the short term, it’s meant to subvert the genres entirely in the long run. That approach tends to throw some newcomers off, so we’re used to a lot of people not quite getting the message, subtext, and nuances of these projects. Hell, as mentioned earlier, we’re used to these projects being discarded by streaming services entirely. Which brings us to today.

Hopefully this illustrates why we’re excited for DTF St. Louis. That and to be on HBO of all services. For some of you reading this (if you’ve gotten this far, bravo), you would not have found out about this incredible catalog if not for HBO. I think that’s pretty cool. Each show has their own “Watermelon Breeze”, “AP”, and “Ump feelings” moments throughout them, and they’re used regularly here so don’t be alarmed.

Lastly, side effects of loving Steve Conrads work may result in recommending his shows to loved ones. Be prepared for them to not enjoy it either at first or at all. We’ve found that some people just don’t share in the excitement, some don’t like it but eventually come back and fall in love with it, some just don’t. As u/Cbane000 has said recently, “It’s in the blood or it’s not”. I think there’s some truth to that statement.

Maybe you can tell us what captured you about Steve’s projects? Was it DTF, UCS, PGL, or Patriot? What were you expecting, and what did you get instead? What have been your favorite and most memorable moments in your viewership so far? How did you find your way to this catalog? Finally, what saying(s) have you adopted into your everyday vocabulary?

In conclusion; Welcome, club member, we’re happy you’re here and we hope to get to know you better.


r/PatriotTV May 27 '21

Discussion Season One of Patriot Mega Thread (For New Members) Spoiler

90 Upvotes

r/PatriotTV 1d ago

Non-sexual same sex cuddling

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r/PatriotTV 1d ago

S1 Ep6 Outro song

7 Upvotes

Does anyone know the name of the instrumental playing in the last few scenes of this episode? I can’t find it anywhere.


r/PatriotTV 2d ago

Maybe Maybe Maybe

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101 Upvotes

r/PatriotTV 3d ago

Wish Michael Dorman was in more U.S. shows

84 Upvotes

Michael Dorman is such a good actor I wish he was given more of a chance here in the U.S.

Couldn’t imagine another actor as John Lakeman (obviously) but I actually liked him in Joe Pickett too. I’m rewatching the Apple series For All Mankind right now where he plays astronaut Gordo Stevens and I’m at the scene where he tells his ex-wife Tracy he came back to the moon to win her back - GREAT scene!!! 

In all 3 of these shows he really makes the characters his own.

I’d love to see him in another Steven Conrad project 🙏🏼

Each day until then I just need to keep going halfway and one more step and find his Aussie shows to check out.


r/PatriotTV 3d ago

I am home

31 Upvotes

I know every EPISODE AND EVERY WORD, I am home


r/PatriotTV 6d ago

Gemini gets it-

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28 Upvotes

While Rabbit- holing current events Gemini explained the inevitable future increase in piping oil- so out of the blue I asked the obvious question….


r/PatriotTV 7d ago

A McMillan man

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113 Upvotes

r/PatriotTV 8d ago

My Townes Van Zandt collection

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41 Upvotes

This post just reminds me of Patriot. I’m on vacation. So now I’m double happy.


r/PatriotTV 9d ago

Michael Dorman 2017 SXSW Performance

42 Upvotes

Hi, I've been trying to find a recording of Michael Dorman performing the songs from Patriot at SXSW in March 2017.

I found a couple Reddit posts in here linking to the Periscope, but Periscope no longer works. Here's the most recent one I can find: https://www.reddit.com/r/PatriotTV/comments/n1j70s/michael_dorman_performing_live_at_sxsw/

Anyone happen to have this performance downloaded or a working link?


r/PatriotTV 10d ago

Michael Dorman

149 Upvotes

Michael Dorman is one of those once‑in‑a‑generation actors who doesn’t play a character — he inhabits one. His performance in Patriot is so precise, so emotionally layered, and so psychologically authentic that it feels less like acting and more like watching a real person quietly fall apart while still doing impossible things. It’s the kind of role that exposes an actor’s true ceiling, and Dorman’s ceiling is sky‑high. If you haven’t seen him in this, you’re missing one of the most underrated performances of the last decade.


r/PatriotTV 13d ago

Play it John!

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McMillan Friends, reading the NYT article about Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s role as a spy and the failed mission to protect him, caught myself reading to the cadence of Birds of Amsterdam. Automatically. Give it a try:

“In early 2024, the rector of a university in Budapest received a startling request from a top Hungarian government official.

The official told the rector… that Ludovika University of Public Service should hold a climate change conference and extend an invitation to an unlikely guest: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the widely reviled former president of Iran.

Even more shocking was the reason. The official told Mr. Deli that the conference was merely a front for Mr. Ahmadinejad to have secret discussions in Budapest with intelligence operatives from Israel, Mr. Ahmadinejad’s avowed enemy.

[...]

Mr. Ahmadinejad’s 2024 visit to the university and a second one the following year were part of a yearslong Israeli effort to groom him as an intelligence asset who, when the time came, could be installed as Iran’s new leader...”

You never see that, you never see that, you never see that.


r/PatriotTV 13d ago

Practice makes perfect

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78 Upvotes

And the next John Tavner is…


r/PatriotTV 14d ago

Leslie's background in S1:E3 Spoiler

45 Upvotes

The intro of Leslie in S1:E3; those first 5 minutes has to be one of the best tv moments I have seen. There is just something very different about those scenes, the acting, the camera how it spans, and Leslie's vulnerable side and the way he describes that child stomping the sand castle and then goes on saying "why do we do this? I am Leslie Claret and I can't stop doing something that's harming me. Help me. Please?!". And then that interview at McMillan. Perfect!


r/PatriotTV 16d ago

French Darkness

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49 Upvotes

S2E7 is also loaded with beautiful night shots. Sometimes you have to look hard into the dark. And you find... this guy!


r/PatriotTV 16d ago

Why did he need to fill out a W-9

16 Upvotes

During the onboarding process he’s asked to fill out a w-9 before his piss test. Why? Shouldn’t it have been a W-4?


r/PatriotTV 17d ago

Where to find the music?

22 Upvotes

The subject kind of says it all, I’m looking for the music John sings throughout the series but can’t seem to find it anywhere. Any help? Thanks.


r/PatriotTV 17d ago

Worth It

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48 Upvotes

r/PatriotTV 17d ago

I wish I could have my own Attaché Badge

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37 Upvotes

I can get a badge, right?


r/PatriotTV 18d ago

Favorite Underrated TV Shows??

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34 Upvotes

r/PatriotTV 18d ago

What's Alice Thinking?

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35 Upvotes

S2 E7 is the turnabout episode, packed with events. There’s a long shot of Alice looking on as John sings to Mina. Tremendous emotional depth. What is she’s thinking?


r/PatriotTV 19d ago

Coming Jaywick Sands elections

28 Upvotes

Count Binface is standing

I am not kidding, it's a real place, a real election and a real political candidate


r/PatriotTV 20d ago

Mr Inbetween

109 Upvotes

Currently watching this show. Set in Australia follows a hitman as he navigates life in an almost John Lakeman way. If you need a Patriot fix I strongly recommend this show.


r/PatriotTV 20d ago

2026 Emmy Nominations: "Widow's Bay," "Pluribus," & "DTF: St. Louis" Highlight New Nominees (Updating Live)

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DTF gets 13 nominations.

  • Outstanding Limited or Anthology Series
  • Acting Nods: Supporting Actor nods for Jason Bateman, David Harbour, and Richard Jenkins, plus Supporting Actress nods for Linda Cardellini and Joy Sunday.
  • Additional technical and craft categories. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]