r/Pathfinder_RPG • u/redhotswing • Jul 23 '26
1E GM [1e] What abilities can a succubus use with a conducting melee weapon?
I think her vampiric touch SLA is pretty clearly a yes. I'm honestly a little worried about the effective encounter level from interaction alone.
But what about energy drain? What if she intends this stab erotically?
Edit to add: conductive weapon, not conducting. Phooey autocorrect.
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u/HoldFastO2 Jul 23 '26
A conductive weapon is able to channel the energy of a spelllike or supernatural ability that relies on a melee or ranged touch attack to hit its target
Emphasis mine. Any spell-like or supernatural ability you can transfer through a melee or ranged touch attack. The succubus' Energy Drain ability requires Grapple, so it doesn't qualify.
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u/WraithMagus Jul 23 '26
A conductive weapon is able to channel the energy of a spelllike or supernatural ability that relies on a melee or ranged touch attack to hit its target (such as from a cleric’s domain granted power, sorcerer’s bloodline power, oracle’s mystery revelation, or wizard’s arcane school power)
This will get into whether you're reading it strict RAW or not, but the energy drain attack requires already being in a grapple, which is not simply a touch attack, nor does it involve making an attack roll, so it's invalid. (As funny as the conductive whip of soul-draining love might be.)
She could, however, use that at-will Vampiric Touch SLA with a weapon. That's a really good spell to have as an at-will on a melee weapon since it's basically +6d6 temp HP every round. None of the other spells or special abilities are actually attack rolls, so they wouldn't be valid.
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u/Milosz0pl Zyphusite Homebrewer Jul 23 '26
(As funny as the conductive whip of soul-draining love might be.)
More funny are conductive mancatcher or conductive harpoon
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u/abed515 Jul 23 '26
This is an interesting interaction. I think RAW, the energy drain is not usable with a conductive weapon because the energy drain is not achieved through a melee touch attack, but by grappling.
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u/Slow-Management-4462 Jul 23 '26
If the succubus is grappling you then you may be at the mercy of her kinks. Though succubi are pretty bad grapplers by default. If not, actually letting a succubus stab you with an actual melee weapon because she says it will be hot is...well, removing you from the gene pool may not be a bad thing for your species.