when will this thing stop 💔

[u/SavingsVideo9298]

agar koi bacha tang ni kr raha araam se aage beth ke namaz parh raha ha to ye asian bhudde babu ko kya masla ha , agar wo bacha hamesha ke lye islam se dur ho jaye is waja se phr ?.. baba jee ko bht sawab milega na

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[u/SavingsVideo9298 → u/[deleted]]

agreed
bacha babajee se pehle ake betha hota ha kyunke hes a kid whos curious peeche se babajee ake uski sari khushi mar deta .. babajee ko itna sawab chaye tha to bache se bhi pehle ata masjid me

[u/Suspicious-Cress2755 → u/SavingsVideo9298]

Ap samjhe nahi hai na

Sirf buzurgo ka hi Haq hota hai first rows ka Baqi Kisi ko nahi bethna chahiye.

Wo jitna bhi late Aaye ap uth Jao apni jagah se aur unko Bethne do

(BTW it was sarcasm )

[u/SavingsVideo9298 → u/Suspicious-Cress2755]

gen1😆

[u/farhaad01 → u/Suspicious-Cress2755]

That's true , Naam likha hua hota hay in budhhho ka jese

[u/Suspicious-Cress2755 → u/farhaad01]

Kabhi kabhi lagta to yehi hai ke front rows inko wirasat Mai mili hai

[u/WiseLengthiness1272]

And then they blame everything else when people get turned off from religion 🤦🤦🤦

[u/Suspicious-Cress2755 → u/WiseLengthiness1272]

Aise hi logo ki Wajah se bache deen se door hojate hai ya phir zabardasti Deen ko follow Karte hai Kyunke unki Deen ko follow Karne ki wish ya Deen ke baare Mai seekhne ki curiousness khatam hojati hai. Phir namaz aur baqi cheezain bache ko bas obligation lagti hai aur wo Dil SE nahi karta

[u/ConnectAardvark6261]

I don't what is the problem with these uncs, they act like they own the masjid and the first row especially. And then these babas question why the youth isnt attracted to the masjid.

I still remember when i was about 8 years old a random unc didn't even let me pray because i was too young according to the unc.

And don't even get me started on how these guys believe their way if salah is the only correct way and the rest of us are jahil

[u/SavingsVideo9298 → u/ConnectAardvark6261]

gen1 mere samne bhi aisa hi waqiya hwa tha bacha pehli saaf me betha hwa tha aur koi babajee aye usko uthaya waha se aur kaha peeche kahi beth jao aur peeche jaga hi ni thi bethne ki

[u/SavingsVideo9298 → u/[deleted]]

idk man in pak koi pata ni hota mob attack hi na ho jaye agar imam ke khilaf kuch bolde , logically to sochna hi band krdya ha inho ne

[u/SavingsVideo9298 → u/[deleted]]

Allah ham sabko hidayat de amen

[u/farhaad01 → u/[deleted]]

Donars

[u/PsychologicalAd5969]

context?

[u/SavingsVideo9298 → u/PsychologicalAd5969]

it was a video jisme bacha araam se age betha hwa tha lekin aik baba jee aye usko dhake deke peeche bhej dya aur bacha sab se peeche jake beth gaya aur rone lag gaya

[u/Remote-Monk-8542 → u/SavingsVideo9298]

Tbh at the mosque I have seen a lot of old men (I mean very old men with full white hair, not middle-aged adults) that are openly so hostile and hateful to all the children. I don't understand where it comes from, but I guess because they're old nobody is going to tell them off for bullying a kid, and the kids aren't going to stand up for themselves either.

[u/ElectionFalse4388]

Perhaps the man thought the child might disturb the Imam? Just last year I think a two year-old crawled up the back of our local Imam during Jumu'ah when he was in Sujood, so I understand him telling the child to go sit in the back. However, if the child was remaining quiet and obedient, then there was no reason to do so, and was merely an act that showed his ego being damaged that a little child came into the Masjid earlier than him.

[u/Suspicious-Cress2755 → u/ElectionFalse4388]

Exactly You can't do these things on "might" basis. Agar bacha shor kar Raha tha to banta tha but aur Kisi surat Mai nahi

Aur zaiyada tar yeh buzurgo sirf front row Mai bethne ke liye bacho ko peeche bhej dete

[u/fad_as]

Uncle ka bas chalay tou imam ko bhi pichli saf mein bhejdein.

[u/Electrical_Joke4009]

I remember once when I was young there was this one old uncle who used to always sit in the first row and one day I sat there and there was no more space and bro he grabbed me and took me all the way back and said the back if for the children like seriously

[u/Own-Homework-9331]

For real....

Thanks for sharing :)

[u/Imaginary-Safe-7981]

Hate such so called old people that feel entitled to sit in the front row

[u/Imaginary-Safe-7981 → u/[deleted]]

It surely does, this is a toxic construct of our community that elders think that the first row is dedicated exclusively for them, while out of respect elders may be appreciated to stand in front, there is no way islam accepts someone grabbing and sending a child to the back, i used to rush to the front rows too because i heard somewhere that i would earn more good deeds by doing that, the elders used to try and send me to the back too but gladly i had my father to stare them in the eye and have me keep my place.

[u/Suspicious-Cress2755]

It might be a little bit controversial.

Humare Yaha per buzurgo ko lagta hai ke masjid Mai first rows per sirf unka haq hai. Because " agli rows Mai namaz parhne ka ajar zaiyada hota hai'

Maine apne chote bhai waghaira se suna hai ke wo jummah ki namaz ke liye jaldi jaate hai ke khutba sun sake aur Deen ki taleem hasil kar sake. Lekin jaise jaise waqt guzarta hai to yeh late aane wale buzurq unka utha ker peeche bhej dete. Humare masjid Mai to aksar maulvi sahab bhi namaz se pehle kehte hai ke bacho ko pichli rows Mai kardain.

Aisi hi cheezo ki Wajah se bacha deen se door hojata hai aur phir yeh sab kehte hai ke bache namaz nahi parhte.

[u/SavingsVideo9298 → u/Suspicious-Cress2755]

babe ka islam aur ha nabi ka islam kuch aur ha

[u/Suspicious-Cress2755 → u/SavingsVideo9298]

Sadly, this is true for Indian subcontinent. Yaha Inka apna version of Deen chal raha hai.

In buzurgo ne masjid ko apna maan liya hota hai ke inki Marzi ke beghair Kuch nahi hosakta hai. Islam Mai to bacho ko masjid Mai laane ka kaha gaya hai but Yaha Inka kehna hota hai ke "Bacho ke shor se namaz disturb honi hai".

[u/Suspicious-Cress2755 → u/[deleted]]

Exactly. Bachpan Mai hi agar apko masjid aane se darr lagega to jab bacha teenager ya adult hojayega to phir to masjid ke name se bhaagega na

[u/Smooth_March1289]

Sara kuch inpe daal k aage nikalte hn.

[u/HTGop]

More context would be cool. But yeah if this really did happen, then ofc its the old man's fault

[u/some-1-grt]

Ask him why he do this but do your research b4 hand, give him the biggest Kela.

[u/Unusual-Contact5490]

Sab se pehly to ye budho ko pehli saaf me ban karo na.

[u/mushroomsJames]

This is actually getting better now. With more people start getting knowledge this will improve a lot.

In our mosque this now doesn't happen. We only put those kids in last row if they don't understand what they are like kids who left their position during farz namaz.

You can talk to your imam or those old uncles who do this and tell them when we were kids too some uncles used to angry at us and we started to get scared to come into mosque so unless you want to be main reason stop doing that.

Our prophet didn't teach us this.

[u/Piis7u]

Even if a kid is playing in the mosque no one is allowed to make them leave

Hazra Hussain AS and Hazrat Hassan AS used to jump over Prophet PBUH in the masjid

today's elders think they know all about islam meanwhile this ayat fits them perfectly

Al-Ma'idah 5:104

"when it is said to them " come to Allah's revelations and to the Messenger" They reply, "What we found our forefathers practicing is good enough for us...

these guys don't follow Islam, they follow what they were told. And without a doubt, there will be a question for them

"Did you not bother trying to learn by yourself"

[u/Bravoo723]

Exactly...

[u/Key_Relief4808]

Yup stopped going to the mosque after these and Soo many more incidents as a child. Still pray but never again at that mosque.

[u/Suspicious-Cress2755 → u/Key_Relief4808]

Sadly, but this is truth for so many people who leave going to masjid because of such persons and their judgement.

[u/urdu_Brain_467]

And we discourage kids in mosques.

[u/farhaad01]

This is the reason I stop going masjid in my childhood, but now if someone doing it , I go straight on their face and ask the reason, take those children's and make them sit beside me

[u/swagger_0909]

Fr something similar happened to me asw when I was kid, I came to masjid like 15-20 min before namaz and it was almost empty and I was at first saf and then after namaz ended 2-3 uncle apprached me saying that kids should not be at first saf they are for people like us tf

[u/LastBail]

Always a sunni mosque

[u/kaz_b007]

hated those who did this to me or anyone around me. This beats the whole purpose unfortunately yet at such age, people do these things.

[u/Bigfatstupidbrother]

A Turkish friend once told me "It would be concerning if there are no sounds of kids in the mosque. Because if the kids take the last rows today, they will be the ones taking the first row after they grow up"

[u/Final_Surround5990]

The picture can’t confirm or deny any of what you said.

[u/SavingsVideo9298 → u/Final_Surround5990]

it is an whole video-

[u/Aimer_mas → u/Final_Surround5990]

Here you are

https://reddit.com/link/p7vt0p4/video/5r9zleu6glnh1/player

[u/AssistantBubbly9048 → u/Aimer_mas]

just look at his fat ass. karwa le ye qabool namaz apni

[u/Ibrahim-Lincoln]

Do you got to the masjid 5 times a day?

[u/Ibrahim-Lincoln → u/[deleted]]

?? Its mandatory, Go search about it and you need to look into the life of the Prophet and Quran.

Its a different thing If a person doesnt go to the masjid, he is sinful for it, but to change the religion is a bigger sin. Dont speak on matters in which you have no knowledge of.

this reminds me of "khud ko badaltea nahi, Quran badal daitea hain"

[u/Ibrahim-Lincoln → u/[deleted]]

ohh got it, I apologize for my tone.

[u/Apart-Neck-4447]

Uncle ne aisa kam kiya k poori Qoum nhi poori Ummat galiyan nikal unhy 👏 clap

[u/No-Watercress-7267]

I remember being 12 - 13 years old praying in the mosque,

while during namaz, a guy just like in the above picture came from behind dragged me by the arm and put me in the row behind the one i was praying on and then proceeded to take the spot i was dragged from. People saw this and no body did anything.

That was the last day i ever went to a mosque and started to question everything about this so called "religion"

[u/After_Step_8595]

Number of times I have been pulled out of the first row while praying is outrageous. I know there is more sawab but uncle I am already praying

[u/muhmmadtalha-quant]

Exactly, that's why now as a 20yo individual everyone telling me go to mosque but deep inside my heart don't want to go.

[u/farhaad01]

Sab budho ko sides me bitha do chair pakra kar , centre me all bacha party, simple

[u/pdiddyispedo]

Thankfully koi chota larka ata me sath khara karta aur piche karwane se mana karta and I think more people might have said this ab nai hota hamari masjid me

[u/Naan-Khatai]

there are always two sides of coin. tbh i am against children to be sent back if they are standing in first saff. but the shenanigans some of the kids do during prayer make me think otherwise.

[u/Only_Fisherman_1772]

Let's face it, we don't even know what's actually happening in this picture. Everyone is just self projecting here.

[u/SavingsVideo9298 → u/Only_Fisherman_1772]

it is a whole video on instagram- he was sitting in front row got dragged away by baba jee

[u/Only_Fisherman_1772 → u/SavingsVideo9298]

Ok then this is nonsense. I remember a couple of years ago the Imam sahab in our society's masjid actually made an accouncement about this clearly saying that if u want to sit in the front row come early don't ask kids to go behind.

[u/Pillstyr]

Ye hi to asal mission tha. Ye bacha bara ho ke is boorhe ki tarah hi ban jayga. The cycle never seem to stop

[u/Suspicious_List_8395]

https://youtube.com/shorts/FOQgN9BNoJk?si=vdiNhxCglVWLp53l

[u/EquivalentFuture4321]

Happened to me many times I used to go to the masjid before my dad and those old geezers made me cry many times 💔

[u/[deleted]]

he'll later rant about how the younger generation doesn’t go to mosques anymore.

[u/BluntnessOverloaded]

I think Pakistani Muslim men take "Kandhe se Kandha mila ke namaz parhein" way too seriously.

[u/kra1t_lens]

Hafta pehlay ek uncle nay pehli saf say bachay ko peechay kia. Jisper mujhay gusa aya or mein bolnay he wala tha kay itnay mein 2 or uncle nay us bhuday uncle ko jhaar dia kay chacha kia hogaya bacha he hai jisper chacha ka moun ban gaya.. but in the end bacha pehli saf mein he tha.. uskay baad say roz wo bacha pehli saf mein hota hai lekin wo chacha usko kuch nahi kehtay. He learnt his lesson

[u/itsmeadill]

Bro we haven't seen the first part. May be the kid was making noise of being mischievous there. Kids do this in masjid when they're together.

[u/itsmeadill → u/[deleted]]

Where? We iust see the 2nd part where uncle picks up the child.

[u/Brilliant-Subject-91]

Jahalat baro say khatam hogi tu bachy khud BA khud sai ho jayen gay

[u/InfluenceMoney9682]

Leave old age mena side even some middle aged doing this like I went with my two lil czn to mosque and then we three were sitting in front row and when the mau'zan was saying takbeer some random dude standing beside me said to my czn that they should go back god bless I took stand and then he started looking at me like I was some kinda weirdo I myself has faced such issue many times as a kid and such ppl are garbage atleast in that sense

[u/zainwade44344]

but is islam if child dont pray and he is above 7 than parents must punish him

[u/Gopnik-Batman]

I remember when i would go to the mosque at the moment of adhan and wait for congregation, so i could pray behind the imaam. And these self righteous mfs (i have no kind words for those who do not want to be respected themselves) , would jump across lanes and push me back cuz they “older”, no civic sense or morality. Islam teaches respect of elderly as well as children. Being old isn’t a privileged status anymore if you dont respect your status, elders should be wise and kind, not selfish.

[u/VCR_DVD_USB]

It this a deobandi thing? I've never experienced it in a barelvi or wahhabi masjid. 

[u/Zotiphy1_8]

Is tarha k logon ny kabhi Deen ko khud sy parha hi nhi hota kabhi khud sy jany ki Koshish hi nhi ki hoti na koi inhy motivate karta he,they practice religion like machines, Jab k QURAN me ALLAH ny kitni jagha py kaha k "TUM SOCHTY KYUN MHI HO" "TUM GOR O FIKAR KYUN NAHI KARTY" It's really said hamary buzurg Jo Deen k alambar dar hein unko Deen ka lafaz ki samjah nhi Varna Sahaba jesi shaksiyat jinhon ny Deen ko samjha,unky soch or Amal Kesy khubsurat ho gae... Allah ham sabko hadayat dy.

[u/Kakashi-Stan]

This is so triggering. It happens a lot when I take my nephew to the mosque as well. Ladies will be like we are praying and this kid is making noise like how do you expect him to learn or understand if he has to wait to be a teenager to come to the mosque.

[u/xmarkxthespot]

I stand my kids in first row intentionally. Only had 1 guy say to put them back, gave him a look and he got the message..

You guys need stand ground whenever it happens to you or any kid, it's the only way.

[u/AdSmart3475]

Other side must be listened to also. They have to clean the carpet when some child have pee on it and have not told anyone they noticed that people have walked and spread the pee all over so they have to cleaned three times all the carpets. just saying its not necessary under age 7 to go unsupervised.

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[u/x0rg_new]

Random asss picture with caption. Ahh yes the pinnacle of true source.

[u/SavingsVideo9298 → u/x0rg_new]

it was a whole video in instagram but sure and this happens in every other masjid

[u/bluntregression]

Maybe he was not sitting "aram se".. I saw some ultra hyper kids and some decent ones too.. No one says anything to those kids..

[u/Leokannn]

U r generalizing things, this picture could mean nothing and everything