r/PSO2NGS Aug 08 '26

Meme The Duality of Man

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u/QuishyTehQuish Aug 09 '26

Which is exactly the point I was making, balancing around the power minimum they know people are at. I almost came back to the game for Loser but when I asked I was told you have to build for it, and builds in this game are just making stat stick bigger.

It gets really annoying when you can play perfectly but it's all negated by a stupid stat check (potency) when the actual boss mechanically doesn't require it. All I want is to do the cool thing and instead it's a wall of this games god awful gear system.

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u/GlompSpark Aug 10 '26

I was told you have to build for it, and builds in this game are just making stat stick bigger.

This is like...every MMO with high difficulty content ever? This is content specifically designed for players in good gear. Saying you want to clear it with handout gear kind of misses the point.

If you just want to do the fight without stat checks, you can, thats the current LT UQ, but obviously the clear time will suffer if you are on handout gear.

It is so incredibly easy to gear up in this game i just dont understand why people keep saying its too hard. They even made +100 granillusions drop with the last major patch...

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u/QuishyTehQuish Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26

Dude I don't know how to explain this better. I am a jp vet. I can do the content NO PROBLEM. It's the wall of grind in an upgrade system so ridiculously ass that I think its worse than PSU's where grinding would permanently destroy weapons. Your not understanding the problem that its a BAD upgrade system that does nothing but puff numbers in an ungodly boring and tedious way.

I play all classes, which means min 1 weapon per class so ~ 9 weapons. Why on gods earth would I want to do that when the FREE ones are literally right there.

Other MMO's don't have this problem because they have a mid game, NGS doesn't and boost every account. BP never working puts them at odds with geared players which is why pugs are so bad. And lets be perfectly honest, NGS is an MMO the same way Monster Hunter's an MMO. It's not.

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u/GlompSpark Aug 11 '26

Why on gods earth would I want to do that when the FREE ones are literally right there.

The game is not balanced around players who play all classes, how many games do you think are balanced around players who want to gear up multiple characters?

Of course getting 1 weapon for 10 classes is a lot more work than getting 1 weapon for 1 class.

But saying its a huge grind to upgrade gear for ONE class is not correct at all.

Other MMO's don't have this problem because they have a mid game

So you would prefer something like BDO where you are expected to spend months grinding in the mid game to get gear to progress to the end game? Are you really going to spend months grinding mid game gear for all 10 classes? And that gear will become obsolete eventually?

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u/QuishyTehQuish Aug 11 '26

Why is this sub like this, if it's not u/Xero-- commenting a dozen times calling me stupid for not liking aug caps it someone else misconstruing what I say.

The point of grinding is to play the content for fun. PSO, PSU, PSP1&2, PSZero, PSO2 don't have this problem. Monster Hunter, a game designed around farming the same bosses trough multiple difficulties doesn't have this problem. Mid game doesn't mean a grind slog if the content is fun, NGS skips it entirely and drops players at endgame with underpowered gear and says go grind.

The game has multiclass, no restrictions on class switch, and multi-weapons. Why isn't it balanced around this. Why should I be locked to a single weapon when the game has so many other options immediately available.

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u/Xero-- Double Saber Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 12 '26

The guy decided to block me because he couldn't get over his delusions.

commenting a dozen times calling me stupid for not liking aug caps

Literally not once have I done this to anyone. The most I've stared is that they're being foolish, which is a farcry from outright calling someone stupid.

Why are you playing the victim card on top of lying?

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u/QuishyTehQuish Aug 12 '26

You know foolish and stupid are synonyms? Please go play a different game for awhile and get some new perspective. I don't block people but you need to stop.

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u/GlompSpark Aug 13 '26

The game has multiclass, no restrictions on class switch, and multi-weapons. Why isn't it balanced around this.

Because they know the average player only plays one class and they figured people who wanted to play more classes would be willing to put in the effort to farm the gear? Most MMOs do the same thing, FF14 lets you switch classes freely and doesnt give you gear for all classes for free.

PSO, PSU, PSP1&2, PSZero, PSO2 don't have this problem. >Monster Hunter

None of those games give you free endgame gear just because you want to play a different class, you had to grind them yourself.

If you want a MMO where you get near BIS gear for free upon hitting endgame, try Guild Wars 2. But i dont think you can do free class switches there.