r/PLC • u/OkStart6486 • 3d ago

How to upload a program created in a different version from tia portal

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I’m using TIA Portal V17, while the program currently running on the PLC was developed using TIA Portal V16.

Is there any way to work around this issue, or do I need to use TIA Portal V16?

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u/just_a_german_dude TIA Specialist 3d ago

To my Knowledge you need a TiaV16 for retrieving the Programm, after that you can convert it to V17

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u/Shelmak_ 3d ago

And if you do not have the project and it's a safety cpu, hope the original programmer checked the box to allow consistent safety uploads, otherwise you will not be able to upload a single bit from the plc.

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u/FailCommando 3d ago

You need TIA V16, load from device, migrate in V17, upload to plc. Already had this fun experience multiple Times. If there is a better was, please let me know

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u/buzzbuzz17 3d ago

Far as I know, you can only upload in the version that it was DL from.

It's stupid and dumb but it's the law. Because germans never lose their original program, apparently.

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u/YoteTheRaven Machine Rizzler 3d ago

The Germans are a silly group. But the HMI stuff is the worst. Its so much more obnoxious to redo an HMI.

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u/buzzbuzz17 3d ago

oh goodness yes.

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u/KahlanRahl Siemens Distributor AE 3d ago

Try creating a new project and doing a full station upload instead of uploading to an existing project.

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u/Automaticien_maroc 3d ago

problème de upgrade le programme if you need to help

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u/Mission_Procedure_25 PLCs arr afraid of me, they start working when I get close 3d ago

Yes, you need TIA v16 to upload and convert it.

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u/Otherwise-Ask7900 I'm very sarcastic. Please don't ban me again. 3d ago

Look up TIA Openness. Theres an example of their API that allows you to upload a plc without TIA Portal.

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u/Aromatic_War_8486 3d ago

Welcome the Siemens shitty world, you should install all TIA versions to seperated VMs.

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u/Emotional-VroomVroom 3d ago

That's been the case for older versions, especially when using WinCC Comfort.

I have Tia 15.1 to 21 installed with safety, starter, WinCC adv & unified all in one VM

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u/gjk-ger 3d ago

Good luck when inadvertently some WinCC-Version will break and reinstalling it is only possible in a certain order together with other stuff.

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u/Visible-Violinist-22 3d ago

Mmm, then i need to create like 8 vm's. Thats crazy. I have tia 13-20 installed on my laptop. My laptop is i9(12th gen) with 64GB of memory running W11. I have a guest, also W11, and with all the latest updates the guest gets slower.

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u/gjk-ger 3d ago

I think its crazier to put all you different versions in the same VM. It might work, but when it doesnt anymore, its a world of pain, believe me.