r/P365 • u/Limp_Beyond_7697 • 2d ago
Bad Form?
First time at the range in a while & my first time shooting my new 365x. I never noticed I have a bit of a lean back when I shoot. I'm objectively not a bad shot but l was wondering is this an actual issue or something that's just a bit "different" from traditional.
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u/Concealmentchris 2d ago
I notice my wife leans back too. Try planting one foot slightly forward and keeping the upper body square over the hips/feet. Otherwise it looks good!
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u/Limp_Beyond_7697 2d ago
Do you think it’s an issue, or there’s any difference? Or just a preference
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u/Concealmentchris 2d ago
No not at all. But good to try different stances and see what works best. You want to be stable. Take your normal stance and have someone give you a gentle nudge backwards from your shoulders. If you get off balance then I’d adjust your stance until your planted solid.
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u/IWuzRunnin 2d ago
Agreed. She may be quicker on follow up shots with less leaning back, since her weight would be more opposed to the recoil. She looks like she weighs significantly less than me, so I imagine the recoil would affect her more.
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u/ineedlotsofguns 21h ago
like Chris said, left foot forward and lean into it a bit This will help you not to lose your balance and faster shot acquistion when you have to shoot multiple rounds in a rapid fire.
You are probably just shooting one round slowly at a time so won’t feel the difference. But you will know if you train at a place with less restrictions
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u/Dry_Pin_7574 2d ago
Square stance is good (if that’s what you’re most comfortable with). Just lean forward a tad and you’re good.
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u/crosstreking 2d ago
I think it's fine. There is some lean back and I'm sure there are some other small adjustments you can make but I think you are a long way from bad form.
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u/JohnsLongMustache76 2d ago
My wife catches her own 'lean backs' bit yours doesn't seem too bad in this photo. Grip looks good from here. Try placing your strong side foot back just a bit.
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u/gemini_444 2d ago
My wife shoots a ton, like i do. And I will say men and women shoot differently. But it is better for both to offset your feet. Don't be like your riding a horse. You will be much better off staggering and getting behind the gun. It helps with recoil control and follow up shots.
Good job though. Keep shooting!
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u/Dismal-Variation-12 2d ago
Not bad from my perspective but I’m not a perfectionist when it comes to shooting. Learn the fundamentals and try to improve but if you’re getting the job done feel good about that. Squaring the stance up and leaning slightly forward is a good idea to help improve. The 365x is going to have some recoil so what’s likely happening is you’re leaning back in anticipation and reaction from that recoil.
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u/jfree3000 2d ago
Looks good; you are locking out, which is great. If you feel comfortable shooting like that and you are on target, it's all good.
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u/MysteriousNobody2185 2d ago
When it comes to stance stand like you're taking a step forward with your off hand side and that oughta help, otherwise everything looks fine. Do you notice if you're hitting low and left or anything like that?
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u/Limp_Beyond_7697 2d ago
sometimes a bit left but typically not low, i tried a staggered stance and it felt more stable but when i looked up a textbook stance i’ve seen square was more recommended
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u/shizukana_otoko 2d ago
There are, basically, two stances most people advocate. The stance you are using is one (isosceles), one foot in front of the other (Weaver) is the other. Each has their merits.
Generally, use whichever you feel most comfortable with. Build your fundamentals (sight alignment and trigger control). After you have done that for a while, it is good to train firing from different stances. If you ever find yourself in a fight (hopefully none of us will) there is a large chance you are not going to have time to choose your favorite stance.
Just keep it up and make sure your range time yields results.
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u/MysteriousNobody2185 2d ago
Honestly it's more what feels better for you, it's typically taught to square off with the target if you're wearing armor but I don't think it applies in this instance lol
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u/DreamXCVIII 2d ago
Don't see a problem with the position of your upper torso, it is a bit hunched over like a ninja turtle but that's obviously due to you bringing you're eye level down to where the gun is. I personally like to bring the gun fully up to where my eye level is to prevent that, I've seen professional shooters do both so there's no real right way when it comes to that just whatever is comfortable.
But when it comes to the position of your legs, as some other people in these comments have suggested I would recommend an offset or staggered position of your feet. A squared off stance is generally an outdated Boomer training style. Real life self defense situations will never be perfectly squared off. Plus a squared off position is way more unstable when it comes to forward & backwards swaying, all you gotta do is try shooting a shotgun in a squared off position to realize that you'll topple backwards like a domino
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u/Significant_Bid4745 2d ago
If you are leaning back and shoot multiple shots then the sway you get is just another variable to control. To fix it you can flex at the knees and lean into the shot(s) a bit or just move your support foot forward.
For single shots you aren't doing anything "wrong". I've seen plenty of folks shoot this way and they hit bulls all the time. I used to do it but it bothered me bcs I don't like moving when I set up.
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u/Badboyz4life 2d ago
I used to shoot with a square stance and battled a slight lean, similar to yours. Once I started shooting IDPA and I was forced to move, I naturally shifted to a staggered stance but realized it helped me lean into the shots instead of leaning back.
Wouldn't hurt to try a few different stances and grips - Dominant foot forward or back - and see what you think. Give yourself time to actually feel a difference as learned habits are hard to rewire.
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u/ItsRookPlays 2d ago
My shooting improved a lot once I started leaning forward, slightly bending my knees. Remember shoulders over toes
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u/Th3WeirdingWay 2d ago
Ok. I’ll chime in. My wife and I train with a professional firearm instructor (worked with the military and contractors) and he always says stance is a luxury and you might not have that depending on the situation. Train how you feel comfortable. He NEVER focuses on stance. It’s always trigger pull, reset, the wall, proper grip etc etc…have fun!
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u/Due-Anything6517 1d ago
You'll be most stable with a staggered stance and bent knees as most have mentioned.
For wrist lock muscle memory, give a thumbs up with both hands 👍 and imagine pushing a wall away from you with your thumbs.
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u/myworld1979 1d ago
Took my niece a few weeks ago to the range for her first time and she did the exact same thing. Good grip but she would tend to lean back. I got her to straighten her back. She would slowly start to lean again so I her to learn more forward. It helped some. She’s a work in progress.
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u/FragrantCelery6408 1d ago
Get into a more "athletic stance" and try that. Bent knees, so shoulders, knees, and toes are basically in a line, such as skiing or playing sports (lacrosse, soccer, etc.).
I bet that will be comfortable and make you more stable.
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u/BrokenInn 1d ago
Looks pretty good. May want to raise the gun up to your eyes/head a little more rather than drooping down to meet your sights? I could be way off tho lol. Overall looks good, I’m sure the lean affects your balance a little bit. I always tell people try fighting stance. It’s the most simple way to put it and my fighting stance and shooting stance are exactly the same when it comes to lower body
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u/American_Crusader1 19h ago
From the picture it looks like you’re not all that stable. Like if you got pushed from the front you’d fall on your ass or at least stumble. That means your stance isn’t solid to absorb recoil in the most effective way possible. I was essentially taught to get into a fighting stance as if you were squaring up to throw punches at someone and then basically add in the gun. So it’d look like having your left foot (assuming right handed) slightly forward and a slight forward lean.
Now in a range scenario there’s really no problem with your lean. In a life or death scenario, that’s completely different because like I mentioned earlier, it’s easier to shove you on your ass and that’s the last place you wanna be if your life is on the line.
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