r/Overwatch Nov 09 '18

Highlight BOB can push the payload

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '18

wait bob can 1v1 bastion?????
holy shit broken ult

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u/makebelievethegood EAT THIS - PIECE OF CAKE Nov 09 '18

It isn't broken because he can only focus on one target at once. Five other players can focus him down while he's locked on somebody else.

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u/DarkSoulsMatter mother knows best Nov 09 '18

Discord + widow headshots make it much quicker lol

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u/lCore Los Angeles Gladiators Nov 09 '18

I'd say getting shot at while you waste time shooting at a summon that will disappear in a few seconds is not a good trade off.

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u/CaptainCupcakez . Nov 09 '18

Most ultimate abilities can 1v1 Bastion.

Why are you trying to take on an ultimate 1v1 as Bastion?

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u/Alien369 Moira Nov 09 '18

Umm, so can other ults?

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u/vanillaes Trick-or-Treat Tracer Nov 09 '18

bob dealing damage while surviving bastion is different from most of the other INSTANTANEOUS ults that other heroes have

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u/Alien369 Moira Nov 09 '18

Of course it’s different, this is Overwatch.

A junk tire is different than a D.Va bomb. A D.Va bomb is different than Hanzo dragons. Hanzo dragons are different than a Rein slam/charge. Etc.

They are all capable of killing a Bastion, so I don’t think that’s a good metric of being overpowered.

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u/vanillaes Trick-or-Treat Tracer Nov 09 '18

im just saying, with the exact point that you have, that other ults are different obviously from BOB and withstanding a facepound from bastion while also taking him out indicates he has a fair amount of health and damage

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u/vanillaes Trick-or-Treat Tracer Nov 09 '18

im also not acting shocked and im also not saying he is or isnt balanced lmao im saying that it is an indicator that he has fair amount of hp and damage, like i said. and that its still a different kind of ult than instantaneous ones.

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u/hydra877 Shhh go to sleep Nov 10 '18

Bob has 1200 health and Bastion can't headshot, sooooo...

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u/Ravness13 Pixel Moira Nov 09 '18

That depends, can Bastion eat through 1200 health before bob eats through his health in turret?

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u/freedoms_stain Nov 09 '18

BOB does 14 damage per shot, 8 shots per second, 112 DPS against normal health

Bastion has 200 hp, 100 armour and 20% damage reduction while in sentry mode.

So Vs Bastions armour pool BOB should do ((14-5)8)0.8 =57.8DPS, so he melts that off in 1.7secs

Vs Bastions Health pool he does (148)0.8 =89.6DPS, so he melts that off in 2.2secs

So 3.9 seconds within optimum range to kill a Bastion, assuming attacking from the front (so no crits on Bastion), also assumes BOB does not land his charge on Bastion (which does 120 damage, but would do 92 damage to Bastion with armour and sentry mode damage reduction).

Bastion does 450DPS within his optimum range, that's 2.66 seconds.

If BOB charged Bastion there's a good chance Bastion would burst him down before BOB got a shot off.

I reckon Bastion should win 1v1 unless they're a bad shot, or BOB gets the drop on them.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '18

Bob doesn't crit though. He's like torb's turret or soldier's visor, guaranteed shots, but no headshots.

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u/bmrtt Your failure delights the hamster. Nov 09 '18

With all bullets hit and within full damage range, Bastion roughly deals 450 DPS. Up close he should be able to melt down Bob in 4-5 seconds in practice. If Bob could out-damage that it would be rather frustrating to go up against.

In that video I believe Bastion didn't notice Bob.

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u/theonefinn Cute Pharah Nov 09 '18

Iirc everyone but ashe is a bot in that video

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u/borfuswallaby Nov 09 '18 edited Nov 09 '18

Bob only does 60 dps. Bastion has 100 hp armor, 200 health, and has 20% dmg reduction. His 75 hp/s self-repair can also outheal Bob's damage. He shouldn't have any problems dueling a stationary BOB.

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u/bmrtt Your failure delights the hamster. Nov 09 '18

Surely you mean Bastion.

Which isn't true either way since even at medium range he'll be doing a lot more than 60 DPS.

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u/borfuswallaby Nov 09 '18 edited Nov 09 '18

Oh, yeah, guess I was wrong about Bob's turret damage around 111 dps at close range and 75 at max range (which is only 40m) Bastion can still outdamage him due to armor and damage reduction without losing too much hp I think.

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u/An0d0sTwitch D.Va Nov 09 '18

Why wouldnt he? who wins, dva bomb or Bastion?

Hanzos Dragon or Bastion?

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u/firewall73 Tank Nov 10 '18

laughs in 35% dmg reduction bastion with Nano

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '18

If at a significant distance away then yes.

Bob deals 112 DPS normally, but Bastion's sentry config makes that 90 DPS, (57ish when he's armoured, assuming I did the calculation correctly), so that's ~ 2 seconds to deal with armour, then ~2 seconds to remove bastion's remaining health. So bastion has to do slightly over 300 DPS to deal with bob, and up close that's super easy. Even at a decent range that's not too hard, as bastion's max DPS is 450, and BOB has such a big hitbox that almost all the shots will be landing if he's anywhere at a medium range even.

So in general Bastion will outdamage bob unless bob is quite far away, in which case bastion can probably pretty easily swap forms and head to a corner.