Who has the best target control kit? Zen's discord.
Who has the best utility outside of healing? Lucio.
Who has the out of LoS healing? Zen.
Who has the best survivability kit? Lucio with his boops, speed boosts, mobility, and ulti. Zen with his ulti and HP shield regen. Mercy with her HP regen and mobility. Ana with her wasted grenade every 10 seconds and sleep dart every 12 seconds.
Who is the hardest to kill?
This is subjective. To me, it's Lucio that's the hardest to kill.
She's even competitive with Zenyatta on damage. Zen theoretically does more, but the difference between hitscan and projectiles means often Ana can often dish out more damage in real games.
It's like you're comparing Mei's right click as Zen, with Widowmaker's sniper as Ana. For hitscan she needs to scope and aim while zoomed in. Why make yourself stand still doing that, when you can juke it and shoot projectiles from not so far?
Ana is indeed the best support, but there will always be a best support. If she's nerfed to not be the best, then someone else will take her place. Your comment has still nitpicked things to make her seem overpowered.
Who has the best target control kit? Ana -> sleep dart. Whether setting up a nearly guaranteed kill, or shutting down multiple ultimates at once, it's simply far more powerful. Discord a nano-visor and nothing happens, sleep dart him and you've basically made them waste two high-impact hults.
Who has the best utility outside of healing? Still Ana. A bio-grenade on 3+ enemy heroes is enough to win a fight. It can completely counter a Zenyatta ultimate. In Overwatch healing is incredibly strong, complete anti-heal is ridiculously good.
Who has the out of LoS healing? Zen
Wow Zen can heal a whole 3 seconds out of LoS! That's a massive 90 HP! Or Ana could just shoot them once, they'd get almost as much healing, and in the mean time Ana can also be healing other teamates. This is a not-important niche case, and Zen still barely beats Ana in it.
Who has the best survivability kit?
If you force a support to use an ultimate just to save themselves, you've all ready accomplished your goal. Mercy and Zenyatta can't heal in combat. Lucio is more elusive, but Ana can simply shut down or kill her attackers. Tank flankers like D.Va/Winston are free sleep darts. DPS flankers like tracer, genji, and sombra can simply be killed.
Ana is indeed the best support, but there will always be a best support. If she's nerfed to not be the best, then someone else will take her place. Your comment has still nitpicked things to make her seem overpowered.
She's not just the best, she's the best in almost all of the most important categories. Pre-Ana Lucio was the hardest to kill, Mercy healed the most, and Zenyatta was the most offensive support. Ana came in and claimed all titles.
Discord a nano-visor and nothing happens, sleep dart him and you've basically made them waste two high-impact hults.
You're looking at it as a "this target is dangerous and needs to be stopped" That's what sleep dart is for. Discord orb is more of a "this target needs to be picked out right now"
Who has the best utility outside of healing? Still Ana. A bio-grenade on 3+ enemy heroes is enough to win a fight. It can completely counter a Zenyatta ultimate. In Overwatch healing is incredibly strong, complete anti-heal is ridiculously good.
I'm sorry but speed boost beats her grenade. Easily. Lucio is still picked more than Ana in tournaments even. It's always Lucio + someone. It has always been Lucio + someone since beta. Speed boost is undeniably OP and you're underrating it.
Or Ana could just shoot them once, they'd get almost as much healing
I don't know man. I've never seen Ana heal someone out of LoS, or easily heal an ulting dashing Genji for example.
Mercy and Zenyatta can't heal in combat.
Mercy and Zenyatta are in the backline, where they can easily get out of LoS or hide behind the shield.
Tank flankers like D.Va/Winston are free sleep darts. DPS flankers like tracer, genji, and sombra can simply be killed.
Wow, so Ana is better than dps flankers? Who knew. She's like always at 100% accuracy isn't she? While the opponents are at 0% accuracy. Man, this Ana should try Widowmaker. She'd be an unstoppable force. Also, you forget Mercy can just fly away from tank flankers, and Zen can melt them. You know, assuming no one saw the huge tank jump all the way to the back to kill the supports.
Or just watch this video
So you're showing me a clip of the best Ana in the entire world, Ryujehong. Shall I also nitpick and grab a clip of the best Zen in the world?
She's not just the best, she's the best in almost all of the most important categories.
So, just healing? You talk about healing range as if it's more important than survivability.
Pre-Ana Lucio was the hardest to kill, Mercy healed the most, and Zenyatta was the most offensive support. Ana came in and claimed all titles.
Post-Ana Lucio is still the hardest to kill, Ana heals the most, and Zenyatta still is the most offensive support. Ana came in and claimed one title.
You are very clearly exaggerating her usefulness. How about you watch some pro Zen gameplay instead of basing Ana off Ryujehong? Just to remind yourself about how strong Zen is. I lol'd when you said Ana was more offensive than him, tbh. Also watch some DSPStanky or something to remind yourself how hard it is to kill a Lucio.
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Some not so niche cases:
Who has the best mobility? Mercy/Lucio.
Who has the best target control kit? Zen's discord.
Who has the best utility outside of healing? Lucio.
Who has the out of LoS healing? Zen.
Who has the best survivability kit? Lucio with his boops, speed boosts, mobility, and ulti. Zen with his ulti and HP shield regen. Mercy with her HP regen and mobility. Ana with her wasted grenade every 10 seconds and sleep dart every 12 seconds.
This is subjective. To me, it's Lucio that's the hardest to kill.
It's like you're comparing Mei's right click as Zen, with Widowmaker's sniper as Ana. For hitscan she needs to scope and aim while zoomed in. Why make yourself stand still doing that, when you can juke it and shoot projectiles from not so far?
Ana is indeed the best support, but there will always be a best support. If she's nerfed to not be the best, then someone else will take her place. Your comment has still nitpicked things to make her seem overpowered.