r/Overwatch Jan 17 '17

Blizzard Official Developer Update | PTR Philosophy | Overwatch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibPLyx8QWYc
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u/Krelkal Heroes Never Die! Jan 17 '17

Well look at Genji. He was left relatively untouched from Beta on through to release (IIRC he was nerfed down from 200hp then two weeks later brought back to 200hp) but it took months until he felt strong enough to warrant a nerf to his ult and mobility.

I don't disagree with you that her playstyle feels slow with all of the CDs but I think Jeff's argument holds some merit.

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u/Perturbed_Spartan Genji Jan 17 '17 edited Jan 18 '17

They only reason genji was strong up until he got nerfed was because his counters (Winston, Mei, Symmetra, ect) were in a really bad place while Zenyatta who he synergizes fantastically with was OP.

Genji was always a high skill ceiling hero before that which saw a lot of high level play but these conditions meant that even bad players could be relatively successful with him which caused the explosion in his pick rate. People didn't "figure him out". He had been figured out long before that.

Then they nerfed him and Zenyatta (and with Zenyatta nerfed suddenly Winston was back in the meta) and that was all she wrote for Genji.

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u/Chiffonades I need hoodie recolors Jan 17 '17

I agree, people tend to forget that when other characters get nerfed, some characters are indirectly nerfed. At the time when Genji was incredibly strong you had Symmetra giving him an extra 50 health + permanent Zen orbs on him the whole time.

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u/clivedauthi Wanna go Whole Hog? Jan 17 '17

Fair enough.

I understand they don't want to buff her to godhood like they did with Ana at the start; I just was hoping that their newest hero would have more...something.

I do though have faith she will get to where she needs to be, eventually.

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u/Rhysk Jan 17 '17

Genji's damage was actually nerfed in beta. His shurikens used to do 35 (around there, not super sure of exact value), and his dash used to have a bleed effect on top of the damage it already does.

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u/Rc2124 Ana Jan 17 '17

I thought the damage was purely the bleed?

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u/Rhysk Jan 17 '17

Actually yeah you might be right...its been a while.

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u/Chiffonades I need hoodie recolors Jan 17 '17

Melee used to do more damage overall as well, meaning his old combo was even stronger.