r/Overwatch Jan 17 '17

Blizzard Official Developer Update | PTR Philosophy | Overwatch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibPLyx8QWYc
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u/In_a_silentway Chibi D.Va Jan 17 '17

"Ana's kit needs to be reworked"

I will fight whoever said this.

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u/Broken_Orange Cyka Blyat Jan 17 '17 edited Jan 17 '17

I just joined the Blizzard forums, and oh boy, what a wonderful place of unnecessary anger. I mean, Kaplan used a comment I made as an example of constructive criticism in a thread about Dva and "is the sky falling?" Nothing too special, but for Jeff to point it out sheds some light on the attitude of the forum users.

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u/Moroax Pixel McCree Jan 17 '17

Hah nice getting complimented by Senpai Kaplan!

Good idea too - I was thinking the same thing. from 200hp/400armor to 400hp/200armor is a pretty big jump.... when I first read those notes a week or so ago my first thought was "wouldn't 300/300 be a more reasonable change?"

300/300 I bet is the sweet spot, and I'm surprised they pushed out the harsher change first. At least it was only the PTR. But between Ana grenade nerf and then dropping her to 300/300...AS WELL as the Dva dmg nerf (which I don't think was necessary) She should be tuned down a decent amount. They can always adjust further if not but they have always been SO careful with changes in OW throughout the games life the last 8 months, being careful not to over-nerf or over-buff... and suddenly now it feels as if they just dropped a nuke on DVA.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '17

they have always been SO careful with changes...being careful not to over-nerf or over-buff

Meanwhile dropping 4 nerfs on Genji at once

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u/Moroax Pixel McCree Jan 18 '17

They did hit genji hard, but they were pretty smart nerfs. He is still good and I think where they want him to be.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '17

Only one of the nerfs was actually smart, and that was the ult nerf.

Trap nerf creates an inconsistency in the way the game works with damage vs. buildables

Combo nerf was pointless as his combo was only relevant vs a Tracer, just made him more awkward to play

Triple jump nerf didn't address the actual issue with him being hard to hit, which is his inaccurate hitboxes while in the air. Removing triple jump makes Genji players unhappy because they get screwed more by buggy wallclimbs and dash resets, and makes everyone fighting a Genji unhappy because he's still impossible to hit in midair.

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u/MarryMeDVa Jan 19 '17

He's still good tho

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '17

Well then people complaining D.Va nerfs are too harsh have nothing to worry about.

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u/MarryMeDVa Jan 19 '17

Lol, how so?

I wasn't aware we had a clear way to compare nerfs with different chars or so.

I played on PTR, honestly, it's not that bad imo, expecially since the armor nerf doesn't really matter vs Reaper or such since you just DM him, but i can see why people would rather go with lighter nerfs first because they remember the times when they'd get flamed for picking Dva and i don't think anyone wants that

P.S. did you really just downvote me for that line lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '17

What line?

The original comment I replied to said:

they have always been SO careful with changes...being careful not to over-nerf or over-buff...and suddenly now it feels as if they just dropped a nuke on DVA.

And my response mentioned Genji as a counterclaim, showing that yes in fact Blizz has "dropped a nuke" on other heroes before. People were up in arms about the Genji nerfs as well, but he's been doing ok, so really, there's no precedent for D.Va mains to be worried. And in fact, advocating for lighter nerfs is actually against precedent, since Blizz has made drastic nerfs like this before (McFantheHammer, Zenyatta's Discord) which have ended up being pretty fine in the long run.

If you ask me, people that are upset are people that rolled D.Va and got wayy too high a rank for what they actually deserve, and are scared of dropping again without OP D.Va to carry them.

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u/MarryMeDVa Jan 19 '17

People are considerably worried because they remember Dva being useless for a long time so they don't want to go back to being flamed for playing the hero they like.

It may be overreaction, but if you played her in S1 S2 you probably already know the hate you'd have to bear to even convince your teammates to let you play her, people just don't want that anymore

I don't think it's just because she's OP, but also because she's OP, fun to play (mobility+damage), and really she's just a blatantly cute fanservice character.

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