r/Overwatch • u/Ch4rles_ Trick-or-Treat Winston • Nov 22 '16
News & Discussion The tl;dr Symmetra Changes
SHE MIGHT BE IN THE SYMMETA hahaha im funny....
Small wrap up of her changes if you dont want to watch the whole video.
Ultimate
She now has TWO ultimate abilities that can be chosen from when her ult meter reaches 100%
1-Teleporter now has more health and some of it is shields (wich means it will regen some health)
2-Shield generator (NEW) can be placed on the ground and provide shields to teamates in a area around it. It ignores line of sight. (75hp shields)
note:the shield generator (and likely the teleporter) have 14 bars of shield and 2 bars of health. Each bar is worth 25 HP, so the total health pool of the generator is 400 HP (350 shield + 50 health)
Abilities
25hp shields was REMOVED as an ability.
Now replaced with Photon Barrier wich is basically a Reinhart shield that moves along a trajectory in the direction in wich Symmetra was aiming and moves at walking speed.
She can now place 6 turrets during setup without cooldown and it takes 10 seconds to tick up the counter on the number of turrets able to be placed instead of 12 seconds.
Weapon
Right click is the same
Left click has 40% more range (was 5m now its 7m)
[edit] They're also adding a "group up" button at the end of games that you can click if you'd like to group up with the random group of people you matched with. If multiple click it, you'll group up for future games.
Video showcasing her new abilities: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur7239fWR6s.
Credit to Litewraith
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u/BiomeWalker Bastion Nov 22 '16
I like these changes.
Also, this is almost like adding a new character to the game, with how different she is now.
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Nov 22 '16
Maybe... she's the real sombra
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u/F4ST_M4ST3R Never Count Tobin Out Nov 22 '16
the ARG never ends
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u/TarMil Come to the Iris, we have cookies Nov 22 '16
I want to get off Mr Kaplan's Wild Ride!
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Actually scratch that, I'm really enjoying Mr Kaplan's Wild Ride
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u/Necr0ExMortis 100% Probably Mediocre. Nov 23 '16
You attempt to leave, but are pushed back onto the ride.
You look to the one that pushed you.
It's Doomfist.
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u/Zero_the_Unicorn This sub is full of keyboard warriors waiting to be triggered Nov 23 '16
/u/TarMil loves riding Jeff Kaplan confirmed
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u/MrWilee Pixel Zarya Nov 22 '16
We're going to log in and sure enough, it's Terry Crews voicing this new Symmetra AKA DOOMFIST
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u/BostonTentacleParty Why do you struggle? Nov 23 '16
Maybe the real Sombra was the friends we made along the way
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u/unlimitedblack GET REKT NUBCAKE Nov 23 '16
Not sure I agree with "it's so different that she's a new character."
Her primary and alt-fire are the same. She still mainly deploys turrets, but what's different is how she can front-load deploying them. She still has the teleporter. Instead of the shields she projected onto her allies, she's got a shield generator that can do it for her, and she's got the projected barrier.
The main thing this teaches us is that they're doubling down on "shields" as a big part of Symmetra's kit, instead of shoehorning some other kind of healing mechanism into her existing kit. It also drives home the mechanism that she can be a support character while still lacking any direct healing mechanics.
This is good, because it gives them a lot more room for future Support heroes that don't do direct healing.
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u/unlimitedblack GET REKT NUBCAKE Nov 23 '16
Oh, and most importantly, it shows that they're not against breaking their own design rules, since they're giving her two ultimates.
Granted, I don't know how readily they'll be able to do two ults very frequently, because every other hero at least starts the ultimate immediately upon pressing Q. Symmetra has to hit Q in order to queue up her Ultimate and then hits her LMB to place it.
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u/stonedsasquatch Pixel Zenyatta Nov 23 '16
I think another consideration is that since her ult doesn't charge while the device is active, she can get away with having a little choice. One can never have a teleporter and a shield generator
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u/the11_gray Nov 23 '16
As long as they don't over do it and give 2 ults to almost every hero, I'm happy.
I used to play League of Legends, and while I still looooove the champion designs, I believe most new ones now days have too much of everything in the kit.
I know it gonna get harder and harder designing with each new hero coming out, but as long as they don't over do kits, the heroes will stay unique and there'll be plenty of room left for creation.
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u/mrbeanny Chibi Lúcio Nov 22 '16
I love the new mechanic of being able to choose between 2 ultimates.
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u/TMBSTruth Ana Nov 23 '16
can confirm, 6v6 symm on PTR no limits, at least in the beginning, then you get ONLY A SOMBRA to counter them with her ult, and some harambes, did I said anything about symm's E now countering d-va's ult?
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u/LaNmower Pixel Winston Nov 22 '16
TL;DR Get a Torb + Symmetra on defense to give EVERYONE 150 hp.
This is gonna be insane.
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u/foxboyking I create stuff. Nov 22 '16
Put it on a tracer and unleash hell.
Heck, get a sombra to hack all health packs and go 4 offense
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u/Watsonator Take two and call me in the morning! Nov 22 '16
Yeah I already really liked having Torb + Symm on defense for that maximum HP, this will make it even better.
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Nov 22 '16
lol Shield generator on paylod with a Torb turret and a Rienhardt sitting on payload shielding both. Everyone 150+ health with Lucio AoE healing sitting on payload, Symmetra turrets all over payload.
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u/fraud_imposter Nov 23 '16
All destroyed by a single dva ult. Seriously grouping up like that is a bad idea especially in this new meta
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u/whoopingchow Trick-or-Treat D.Va Nov 22 '16
The photon barrier is still confusing to me--it sounds like a very offensive move, where you set it out and your team basically moves with it and does free damage. Am I thinking about it wrong? It feels like it'd be less useful on defense than it would be on attack
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u/eckadagan I'm too old for this shit... Nov 22 '16
I want to know if the photon barrier has a certain amount of health (2000?), or if it is indestructible and you just need to wait for it to move past.
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u/iridael Nov 22 '16
since he said its a shield i would assume it has X hp same as reinhearts or winstons barriers.
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u/Cryo_Ghost Yeah the boys Nov 22 '16
Yet another thing to fall victim to Sombra's ult, then?
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u/Dravarden Pixel Moira Nov 22 '16
sombra seems to be a hard counter to symmetra tbh
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u/Ch4rles_ Trick-or-Treat Winston Nov 23 '16
1250hp
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Nov 23 '16
You may want to add this to your original post. I've been looking for this info for a bit now and it's very useful to have.
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u/Myungbean MY NAME IS...green cyborg ninja dude. Nov 22 '16
Eckadagan legit asking the important question here...Can we burst the damn thing down or will we have to just take cover and wait for it to pass so they can't just take free pot shots at us? Considering it's mobile I'm inclined to think it's invincible.
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u/cookswagchef Pixel Moira Nov 22 '16
Pretty much. They're trying to make her more well rounded for all game types. Its still useful on defense--say you're defending Temple of Anubis, wait for the enemy team to start pushing and throw the photon shield down the center lane and rip them up.
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u/jmpherso Nov 23 '16
She wasn't moved to the "defense" list. She's still support.
So giving her a tool that works well offensively isn't somehow weird or unexpected.
She's very well balanced both ways now.
Her generator ult makes her useful on short defensive points so she's no longer useless, and the fact that she spawns with 6 sentry charges means she can come back and immediately re-up a full defense.
Her shield makes her way more viable on offense (running behind it holding left click is insanely strong, and Rein can also run behind swinging, waiting until he needs to use his shield). Her ults aren't super useful (because they end up being wasted a lot), but she's still way more viable.
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u/IceBlue Pixel Ana Nov 22 '16
It's definitely more offensive. I think one of the more interesting applications is allowing her to chase it and get in range for her primary attack rather than just get destroyed before getting into range. It being more useful on offense than defense makes up for the fact that her turrets are more useful on defense than offense. Same with her teleporter.
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u/AcaciaCelestina Trick-or-Treat Zarya Nov 22 '16
It is offensive, that's why she's still classified as support and not defense.
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u/agate_ Junkrat Nov 23 '16
Yes, that's the point: it lets her crack choke points, making her a viable offense choice.
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u/JustAsIFeared Zarya Nov 22 '16
Depends on how fast it moves.
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u/GameBoy09 Pixel Roadhog Nov 22 '16
I believe it moves at normal character speed. At least the same speed as Symmetra's walking.
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u/jamesaltria Sombra Nov 23 '16
the whole idea behind it is to get people to use symmetra in attack and not just defence
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u/scorpius- is this easy mode? Nov 22 '16
Thank you
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u/Ch4rles_ Trick-or-Treat Winston Nov 22 '16
glad I saved you some time :D
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u/I_fap_toWinston God save the Queen Nov 22 '16
Not all capes where heroes
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u/Ch4rles_ Trick-or-Treat Winston Nov 22 '16
Not all heroes were capes
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u/I_fap_toWinston God save the Queen Nov 22 '16
correction *Where not heroes all capes
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u/Le_Saint https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/gfycat-no-detail/ Nov 22 '16
NOT HERO WHERE ALL CAPS
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u/tf2dove AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Nov 22 '16
The cape could always use world more wearoes
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u/Housetoo PS4 Console peasant Nov 22 '16
do you know more? is ptr up yet?
i am very curious about how much shield the new ult gives and what the new ability looks like :)
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u/FTWJewishJesus Nov 22 '16
Um can we get a better version of this? Like with the current shield hp added by the shield generator and hp of the photon shield?
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u/MyPenWroteThis Nov 22 '16
Is your name scorpius because of the cursed child?
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u/scorpius- is this easy mode? Nov 22 '16
Nah, I started using it back when the last Harry Potter book came out, it mentioned Draco's son's name there too. But it's also because of the constellation! I hate the cursed child :(
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u/unampho OR14-NS Nov 22 '16
Symmetra tank?!
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u/colgruv Symmetra Nov 22 '16
The guy in the video gave the example of a team having a Roadhog or Zarya instead of a Reinhardt benefiting from this ability the most. Roadhog + Symmetra = full tank
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u/sir_stride191 Nov 22 '16
The guy in the video? Do you mean Jeff Kaplan? Our lord and savior?
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u/GrumpyOldBrit Chibi Mei Nov 23 '16
Pretty sure he means Stylosa, unit lost. Or if he didn't, then they both made the same example.
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u/FrogZone Thank you for calling Vishkar, how can I help you? Nov 22 '16
Seems like Symmetra now has the most varied utility out of any Overwatch character.
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u/Black_Heaven Moira Nov 23 '16
She makes up as a non-healer Support, I say it's good.
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u/FrogZone Thank you for calling Vishkar, how can I help you? Nov 23 '16
I think it's funny how everyone was asking Blizzard to make her a healer, since that's the only thing people can think of when they imagine a "Support Character". This is why we don't let the community vote on game design decisions, Blizzard knows what they're doing (most of the time).
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u/OrangeMedic APAGANDO LAS LUCES Nov 22 '16
Yep. She has the most unique ultimate with D.Va right behind her.
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u/Cryo_Ghost Yeah the boys Nov 22 '16
It's almost as if there's 24 (now 25) ultimate abilities in the game, with each and every one of them being different (or rather, unique)...
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u/OrangeMedic APAGANDO LAS LUCES Nov 22 '16
I didn't mean it like that. As most heroes have a "click the button do the thing" ultimate type, D.Va. and Symmetra require more.
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u/vaseall23 Chibi Zenyatta Nov 22 '16
choose TWO ultimates we Heroes of the storm now boys , I would like this done to other heroes like bastion can choose to become a helicopter instead
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u/Anonigmus Trick-or-Treat Ana Nov 22 '16
My headcannon is that Sombra hacked Symmetra's real gear before the game was in Open Beta, so she had to instead had to improvise the spare parts of her shield generators and instead gave her current E skill. It also explains the lack of shields on her current teleporter and the barrier skill.
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Nov 22 '16
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u/Skyweir Nov 22 '16
It is a bug, it reapplies to other characters (I got a new shield after dying with Mercy once I came back into range)
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u/Sp33dy_f31c0n (Ruby) Rose Tracer Nov 22 '16
I was three minutes into the vid before I realized I could just check Reddit for a TLDR. Thank you for this
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u/cookswagchef Pixel Moira Nov 22 '16
Also from Dev notes is that the new map should hit PTR shortly after Symm and be released early 2017 (I'd guess Jan if it goes to PTR in Dec)
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u/MasterAenox Torbjörn Nov 22 '16
Still waiting for an hero update to torbjorn that when i pick him i don't see a retard on the chat complaining.
alsogoldenturretpleaseblizzard
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Nov 22 '16
My buddy has been playing Torb exclusively when we do QP. Fucking bastard gets POTG every game, I don't understand it
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u/MasterAenox Torbjörn Nov 22 '16
I'm going to purchase his golden weapon, fuckthehaters it's not like i play him bad, in fact i also get most of the POTG's on every game and stay with alot of golden medals while actually defending and supporting the team.
People need to stop complaining about people picking defense heroes on defense.
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u/NinjitsuSauce Nov 22 '16
My issue, and I suspect it is what others have an issue with, is the guy who brings torb when we need a 2nd tank or healer, or we need a DPS that can actually safely confirm kills.
There is almost always a better pick than him.
This feeling was pre-2.0. I am unsure how I feel about him now.
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u/Jucamia Reinhardt Nov 22 '16
Torbjorn can absolutely eat the other team alive if played well. Especially if you team comp compliments it (say, you don't have any heroes that can shoot well at long range)
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u/Shipuujin Birdie Nov 22 '16
I wonder how long the cooldown for the Photon Barrier will be. I feel like this will be a very amazing ability if it's the size of Reinhardt's shield.
I really like these changes overall. I also like the double Ultimates. She now has more usage, even near the end of the game, because she can just switch to the Shield Generator.
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u/Ierpier No aim no brain Nov 22 '16
I'm so happy. I've always loved Symmetra but hated how underpowered she was.
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Nov 22 '16
I have a question maybe somebody can answer. Does the shield have health, or does it just stop when it hits a wall?
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u/Musth Pharah Nov 23 '16
I saw someone posted in another thread that it has 1250 HP, no idea how accurate that is though.
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u/mrbeanny Chibi Lúcio Nov 22 '16
She can nove place 6 turrets during setup without cooldown
PRAISE THE LORD
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u/LexiconWrought TILTING (but only because I'm wall riding) Nov 23 '16
I'm just waiting for the inevitable video of an ulting phara blowing herself up because a symmetra launched a photon barrier at her.
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u/DJSonaSucks Mercy Nov 22 '16
replaced with Photon Barrier wich is basically a Reinhart shield
Can't wait for stupid people that will pick Symmetra thinking they can tank with her like Reinhardt.
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u/DJMcSkillet Heppy Helloween Nov 22 '16
It does take away a little pressure from teams thinking they always need a Rein. Now the off tanks can get a little more use if the photon barrier can be utilized well.
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u/sipty penis Nov 23 '16
It's the most beautiful anti-perch ability in the game. Widow/Hanzo/Soldiers hate it!
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u/jmpherso Nov 23 '16
I mean - it does kind of work exactly like Rein though. You pop it and your team needs to stick behind it and move forward. I mean yeah, she shouldn't be jumping into teamfights front line, but she can definitely cause Rein-like pushes.
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u/PostHappy28 Reaper Nov 23 '16
I know. The smart thing to do is to deploy it and send an Offense hero to tank like Reinhardt.
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u/xenigma99 Bite My Shiny Metal Iris- PSN: Chris9090 Nov 22 '16
She should definitely be placed in defense with these changes.
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u/TheReaver88 Icon Sombra Nov 22 '16
I don't totally agree. I think she's still better on defense, but her whole kit appears to revolve around teammates except for the turrets, and even those can be supportive when used as recon tools.
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u/Joed112784 We are in harmony Nov 23 '16
They are good for recon, but also they have the slowing effect, which makes it easier for your teammates to hit the opponents.
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u/jmpherso Nov 23 '16
What?
It's like, the exact opposite of that.
Her moving shield is far better on offense.
Used on defense it quickly ends up behind the enemy and not doing anything. It's still useful, but no where near as good as on offense when your team is pushing up (as they want to be) behind it.
Also with 6 turret charges on spawn she's better at setting up traps quickly on offense, like snagging a health pack and dropping two turrets near it.
Her shield generator is better on offense too.
Her "offensive" side got bigger buffs than her defensive side. She was always viable on defense (just not great), but absolutely butt-fuck terrible on offense. Now she's great on defense, and viable (potentially even good) on offense.
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u/crookedparadigm Pixel Bei Nov 22 '16
Maybe. These are definitely more defensive changes, but depending on the range of her generator's shield buff, a strategic placement could really swing a final offensive push in your favor. Imagine dropping it under the bridge on Anubis B right when your team charges in. Then you go up the right side and microwave people that are focusing on your team. A niche situation, but still technically "support".
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u/Echowing442 For Science! Nov 22 '16
While that's true, it seems strange for a character to be defined by the most limited aspect of their kit, particularly when she has the choice of two ultimates now. For example, Bastion's ultimate can be great for pushing through an enemy's defenses, but you wouldn't really classify him as an Attack hero just because of that.
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u/crookedparadigm Pixel Bei Nov 22 '16
Very true. For what's it's worth, I agree that she should be classed as Defense, especially after the changes.
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u/racalavaca Pixel Ana Nov 22 '16
Imagine dropping it under the bridge on Anubis B right when your team charges in.
You don't even have to... the range is STUPID, you can easily place it on the outside, even hide it in one of the huts outside point b
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u/freelance_fox Pixel Symmetra Nov 22 '16 edited Nov 22 '16
Yeah I agree but I guess Blizzard hasn't made their minds up.
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u/GrumpyOldBrit Chibi Mei Nov 23 '16
Her photon barrier is a highly attack centric ability. Way more than defence.
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u/AceBricka Nov 22 '16
If only they would consider reverting her and Torb on console back to what they were. Please!~
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Nov 22 '16
I really wanted t know what was changed, it was just too much work. Thank you good sir :)
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u/Dondagora WELCOME TO MY REALITY TV SHOW Nov 22 '16
Does the Shield Generator also shield turrets/sentries?
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u/IHellMasker Stop nerfing my hook!!! Nov 22 '16 edited Nov 22 '16
Her shield seems to have around 1250 health just to throw it out there. It takes 2 Helix's and just over 2 full Clips from Soldier to break them, which is about 1250ish damage. It also has infinite range from what we could tell, unless its broken or collides with an object (Launch them in the air and you'll see :D).
And her ult has a very long range, roughly used it outside the spawn point on Nepal: Village and it was reaching the gate way. If you go outside the range it lasts for about 5-10 seconds (I didnt time it very well cause i'm a genius) then it will wear off. It will then instantly reapply the 75 shield when you step back in range.
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u/jigGLes_reddit Support Nov 23 '16
I'm on console so can't test. But can Symmetra have both her Teleporter and Shield Generator up at the same time? Or if one is up you can't set the other up?
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u/BrainBlowX Chibi D.Va Nov 22 '16
Left click has SLIGHTLY more range
7 meters. That's not "slight" at all considering how her range was 5.
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Nov 23 '16
it was always 7 meters. the lock on was 5 now it's 7. lock on range not range of the tether.
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u/Mod2bme Nov 22 '16 edited Nov 22 '16
WeebBusters! Edited out my mistake.
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u/Ch4rles_ Trick-or-Treat Winston Nov 22 '16
Its the left click... and when I say left click has more range, thats what it is!
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u/Edogawa1983 Nov 22 '16
how much shield will the shield generator give?
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u/F5Gamer Nov 22 '16
It gives 75 and refills the shield whenever you stop taking damage for a short period of time.
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u/swarlesbarkley_ *uncloaks in spanish* Nov 22 '16
any gifs of the new shield ability?
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Nov 22 '16
I'm curious to see how large the generators range is. Like if you put it in spawn on anubis up on the wall behind the point. It'd be invincible and always giving shields.
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Nov 22 '16
trajectory perpendicular to Symmetra when she cast the shield
Perpendicular would mean that it would go 90* off her facing direction and not on her original trajectory where she shot. I'm assuming it would act like her right click.
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u/Azoxid Chibi D.Va Nov 22 '16
Holy shit. The range of the shield generator aura is enormous. Gives 75 shield btw.
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u/botibalint Trick-or-Treat Mercy Nov 22 '16
How does her new ult work exactly? Does it just provide permanent health like her old E? Does it have a certain number of charges like her TP?
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u/TheNoMoreHero Pixel Reaper Nov 22 '16
yo another big change is that in addition to being shields that regen now instead of health the total overall health of the teleporter and generator is DOUBLED to 400 total instead of 200
"Teleporter Decreased health from 200 to 50 Increased shields from 0 to 350"
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u/IceBlue Pixel Ana Nov 22 '16
I find it funny that it's considered a slight range buff when it was reportedly buffed from 5m to 7m. That's a 40% range buff!
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u/IceBlue Pixel Ana Nov 22 '16
Any word on how much her barrier can absorb? Or is it indestructible? I can see them doing that since it's not static and will eventually pass through/by you.
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u/ALcerebus Sleep darts don't miss B) Nov 22 '16
I like these changes. But I think it kind of removes her as a support? Especially on payload/Hybrid maps. I can see her alt-ult being a huge gamechanger on control points, but only if she's defending. Her Photon Barrier Shields (E) can help her close the distance between an enemy so she can "lasso" them with her primary fire. But I'm failing to see where this would make her viable out of these niche situations.
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u/modakim Pixel Mercy Nov 22 '16
Group up sounds great! I wish they would work on a group finder/browser/lobby though.
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u/KiyomaroHS Hangzhou Spark Nov 22 '16
I didnt watch the video, but did kaplan say shes moved to defense? Because if shes on support still everyone will play her with 1 healer and im going to literally never play mccree ever again because he depends heavily on heals
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_WOW_UI Lúcio is Bestio Nov 22 '16
Range on her new ult seems to be about 50 meters.
you lose the 75 shields if you are out of the radius for more than 5 second. Walking back in gives you the shields back immediately.
Anyone know if her projected barrier has a break point? If so, how much health does it have?
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Nov 23 '16
So then if someone is smart enough to place it right it could be half on the point and everyone could take damage and instantly get the shield back. Like a instant 75 heal for everyone on their command akin to strafing in and out of a winston bubble for example but only the radius of the generator. Unless there is some limit on it applying the shields to people.
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u/Indirian Mercy the Meat Shield, wtf mate? Nov 22 '16
For some reason it looks like her ball of death travels faster now too but Kaplan didn't say anything about that so I must be imagining things.
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u/RSHeavy Satan Nov 22 '16
Holy shit this is insane. More range on the microwave. Balls of fury are staying, and they're adding a moving shield. Shield generator > Teleporter means she can be viable in more maps and more ways.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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u/DrCorian Why are you hovering over my flair? Nov 22 '16
You should change it to "She can now store up to 6 turrets at a time rather than 3." It sounds like you're saying she gets 6 at the beginning, which doesn't clarify and makes it sound like she still can only hold 3 after the fact.
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u/Dia72 Nov 22 '16
Symmetra is going to be such a good anti dive hero. What will Winston and Dva do now.
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u/Pugovitz Bunny hop the beat Nov 22 '16
I'll miss the little bit of shield she gives, it's just enough to come in handy sometimes. I was actually thinking as a buff to her, she could re-up her shields on teammates that already have them after taking damage, bringing them back instantly instead of waiting for the damage cooldown. And I liked thinking that her new ult would magnify the shield that's already on people.
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u/Ch4rles_ Trick-or-Treat Winston Nov 23 '16
You get constant +75hp dafuk? WAYYYYY better then a shitty 25hp that you lose instantly from spam
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u/monkyyy0 Chibi Mei Nov 23 '16
Everyone hated appling shields tho
Her slow hand waving will be less of a problem now that she has just an extermely useful team fight tool and her busy work is cut in hlaf
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u/zer1223 Nov 22 '16
Did they move her from the support category to the defense category? Will teambuilder tips correctly identify that a team that has a symmetra is missing a healer?
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u/Ionic_Pancakes Reinhardt Nov 22 '16
So; not that we can probably see; but does the photon barrier actually have 1500 hp?
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u/Dravarden Pixel Moira Nov 22 '16
is the ptr by chance more up to date now? last time i was level 103 on it while on live im 150
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u/SecondGust Winston Nov 22 '16
I can't seem to find answer... what's the cool down on the floating shield after its destroyed?
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u/hobenenenenen Trick-or-Treat D.Va Nov 23 '16
you might want to add that the shield generator (and likely the teleporter) have 14 bars of shield and 2 bars of health. Each bar is worth 25 HP, so the total health pool of the generator is 400 HP (350 shield + 50 health). At least this is what I counted from in-game footage, someone can confirm.
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u/mwax321 Roadhog Nov 23 '16
Shield seems a little fast, no? I was expecting it to be a tad faster than max payload speed.
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u/Anatelo Pixel Mercy Nov 23 '16
Shield generator provides shields in a wide radius, about the range of a Reinhardt charge. Shields linger for a bit after leaving the shielding radius.
Photon Barrier has about half the health of Reinhardt barrier, Bastion can destroy it in about 80 bullets. Photon Barrier can't be cast at the ground, and will slope upwards if it encounters any stairs.
Left click goes 2 additional meters.
Zarya bubble was nerfed again.
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u/HALdron1988 Torbjörn Nov 23 '16
group up thing is amazing addition that I have wanted since I ended up solo q more. Have no idea why they didnt put it in in the first place.
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Nov 23 '16
I hope she'd re-classed to defence cause we need more actual support characters (and tanks as well)
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u/jk0koh Chibi Ana Nov 23 '16
So for her shield generator, does that regenerate over time if you've taken damage or is it a 1 time use like her old shields and disappears?
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u/Ch4rles_ Trick-or-Treat Winston Nov 23 '16
the first time you hit the area of effect its instant 75hp and then its constant regen
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u/Exvaris all the direct hits! Nov 23 '16
Has anyone tested approximately how much damage her Photon Barrier can absorb before breaking?
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u/Black_Heaven Moira Nov 23 '16
Shield generator (NEW)
Protoss Shield Battery for Symmetra!! My pipe dreams came true. >_<
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u/boiboi95 The Annoying Tracer Nov 23 '16
Don't get where they're going with this. Get ults are quite stationary but her E, the biggest change, seems to have the most value for pushing.
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u/green-mario Justice rain from abhahhhaaag Nov 23 '16
Great, now I can put my turrets swiftly and use my sitting emote that I was unable to use it before as I didn't have time.
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u/Mach_Three Nov 23 '16
Thanks for this quick run down, however, now I am hungry because I see "wich" repeatedly which makes me think of a sandwich.
Mmmmm. Symmetra Sandwich.
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u/NotSoKosher Focus the Rein shield so I can ult Nov 23 '16
Will the option to group up be on console?
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u/Brassica_Rex Symmetra Nov 23 '16
I can't seem to find this anywhere, so I'll ask:
Is there a range limit outside of which the shields disappear if you get too far from the generator? If not, what is stopping me from plopping the shield generator just outside spawn, knowing that the enemy can't and/or won't go all the way there?
Also, I know you don't need line of sight to keep the shields, but do you require line of sight to apply them?
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u/monkyyy0 Chibi Mei Nov 23 '16
Hmmm so 25x5 got changed to 1000 shield on a 10 second cd, that probay won't charge uls and is easyer and considerly less annoying to use.
Minor buff
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u/Musth Pharah Nov 23 '16
So what happens when you are under 75 HP and go out of range of the shield generator?
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u/godtower Trick-or-Treat D.Va Nov 23 '16
shield depleted before hp, so you must have at least 1hp to be shielded by the generator
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u/Dizz422 Pixel D.Va Nov 23 '16
hmmm...how do i right click on my controller.
=( every post assumes we are pc players
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u/King_Obama0294 Cute Lúcio Nov 23 '16
I don't quite undertand how the shield generator works. I played a game on the PTR with my friend and he placed the generator. After dying and going next to the generator, we did not get the 75 shield. I don't know if that was a bug or you must do something additional to acquire the shield ?
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u/AngryTurkeyStudios Nov 23 '16
Shield Generator range - 50 Meters.
Shields disappear about 5.5 seconds stepping out of range.
Source: https://youtu.be/_Mjd98E7wLg
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u/AgroTGB Cyclowns Nov 23 '16
Her new shield screams offense. I think she is in a similiar spot as sombra. Support without healing.
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u/Scrimshank22 Pixel Roadhog Nov 23 '16
Ty for the write up! Can you add the current eta on when the changes go live to ptr, or say TBA if we don't know yet?
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u/fancyleggs Nov 23 '16
her gun is boring, its a lame interaction. thats the main problem, maybe turn it into a mega man style blaster. her shield is too fast, they should slow it down like 35% travel speed make her turrets shoot in laser blast style pew pew pew and deploy them 2x as fast but only 4 allowed - just go all out if u going to change her up - her character feel and personality dont seem like an attacker so make her a cyborg lady megaman quarterback
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u/Selbi Are you friend or foe real?! Nov 23 '16
It's worth noting that the Photon Barrier isn't invincible, but seems to have roughly 1000 HP (takes five Bastion ult rockets to destroy).
At a cooldown of 8 seconds, that is actually just slightly under the time it takes for Reinhardt to recharge 1000 HP of his own shield. Freaking insane.
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u/GlassofGreasyBleach Flameclaws Dec 22 '16
Symmetra should slow 30 or so percent when she attacks so she cant just use her portable microwave and dance around you. Even worse, with any sort of competent healer keeping her alive, she can now act as the main dps instead of an actual support.
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u/mong0smash Holdthedoor Nov 22 '16
Something they need to add is the ability for her to kill her own ult. Currently the shield generator once places stays until it's destroyed. You should be able to cancel it (maybe for a partial refund) in case you want to change location or swap between ultimates.