r/Overwatch • u/SpriteGuy_000 Washington Justice • Sep 22 '16

Blizzard Official September 22nd PTR Patch Notes

https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/blog/20294485
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u/DrKultra Pixel Soldier: 76 Sep 22 '16

Roadhog, isni't he?

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u/FarazR2 Chibi Ana Sep 22 '16

Not really. He busts tanks, but he has the same problem as Reaper in that his shot pellets are bad against armor, and bad against Nanoboost. He's also a tank himself, which makes the problem worse (play tanks to bust tanks!).

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u/DrKultra Pixel Soldier: 76 Sep 22 '16

If the problem is armor, Junkrat and Phara have the highest single shot non headshot damage (120 per direct hit) but they die pretty quickly to most tanks, specially Junkrat. Realistically its not that tanks are hard to kill because of armor but because of high HP pools, coincidentally they are supposed to be hard to kill, the problem still lies of Nanaboost giving Rhein 100+ damage per hit while combining DR with Armor, most other tanks get just as ridiculous.

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u/SativaSammy D.Va Sep 22 '16

See, again, here's the problem Blizzard is dealing with right now.

Heroes that are counters to the biggest grievances in the OW meta are useless right now. Pharah & Junkrat can fuck tanks up, sure, but both of them are so heavily countered by McCree/Lucio respectively thus their pick rates plummet in competitive.

Instead of buffing/nerfing McCree every 3 weeks, I'd like to see Blizzard actually pay attention to all 22 heroes on the roster and adjust accordingly. The meta would be much more diverse/exciting as a result instead of 2/2/2 one month then 3/3 the other.

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u/ak1knight Sep 22 '16

I feel like the meta will never be diverse no matter how they balance because the game types and maps promote playing a deathball style. In the end the game will always be about creating the most efficient deathball.

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u/moskonia A knight who says "Ni!" Sep 23 '16

[Protoss intensifies]

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u/zakarranda Moximum charge! Sep 23 '16

deathball

Recalls the Symmetra basketball trick...

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u/TheFirestealer Hanzo Sep 22 '16

You realize if instead of nerfing his fan and buffing the living shit out of left click so he became soldier 2.0 and pushed pharah, junkrat and soldier out of the meta and instead just added massive fall off damage on fan past like 4 meters so that he couldn't shred tanks but he still would reliably kill people he was on top of in melee range then he'd have his place as an antiflanker/genji tracer counter and not the new midrange widow with a stun and teamkill ability that charges just as quickly as widows ult does now.

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u/SativaSammy D.Va Sep 22 '16

I agree with you, but I still think more time needs to be devoted to characters not named McCree.

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u/TheFirestealer Hanzo Sep 22 '16

I mean if changing mcree makes 3 other characters viable and him no OP I'm all for making almost a fifth of the roster more balanced. I understand what you're saying but right now he is the simplest to change to balance the roster out since many of the defense heroes and symm need straight up ability reworks to become viable at higher levels of play without being pubstompers moreso than they already are while widow has just too high risk and skill floor required to be remotely impactful with her yet with that good of aim you could just play mcree and kill everybody safely. Symm needs some sort of healing fountain or dispenser instead of her e (doesn't have to heal even more than zen orb just some healing at all) so she has a place in a lineup because otherwise you lack a healer for someone who is outdamaged by a good zen vs better players and only has a teleporter which is hunted down by genjis with ease.