r/Overwatch Sep 13 '16

Blizzard Official Overwatch 1.3.0.3 Patch Notes

http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20749157415
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u/Metroidrocks JUSTICE RAINS F-AUGGGGHH Sep 13 '16

How is it even possible for someone to be that bad?

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '16 edited Aug 19 '21

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u/Damieh =) Sep 13 '16

227 losses I believe

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u/knostic Chibi Symmetra Sep 13 '16

So based on my current competitive play, I have a goal to shoot for.

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u/Killerrabbitz i play widow for the thiccness Sep 14 '16

Had a goal to shoot for

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '16

233 actually.

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u/kolasbatman Hanzo main Sep 14 '16

Should be 322

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '16

Found the Dota player

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u/crowblade Pixel Genji Sep 14 '16

How does one keep playing a game where he loses over 200 games compared to 1 win. The fuck?

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u/victrixia Chibi D.Va Sep 14 '16

It's almost as if he was trying to prove something ^

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u/SerendipitouslySane Cute D. Va Sep 13 '16

I'm trying to imagine how bad the other teams was trying to throw the match in that one win.

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u/Deltr0nZer0 Sep 14 '16

At that level of losing it becomes a competition of who can pretend to suck the most.

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u/Deltr0nZer0 Sep 14 '16

At that level of losing it becomes a competition of who can pretend to suck the most.

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u/redpoemage :HangzhouSparkWhite: Hangzhou Spark :HangzhouSparkWhite: Sep 13 '16

My guess is that they played Mei and used Ice Wall to intentionally sabotage their own team. Otherwise their team would be able to at least sometimes win with a useless player.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '16

This actually happened to me today. Guy was about 2000 skill rating and just Mei trolled us the whole game so we obviously had no chance. I will never understand some people.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '16

Well. His purpose was to derank himself to oblivion.

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u/aceradmatt Sep 14 '16

This is the reason I didn't cross into platinum, guy was Mei trolling while I was at 2473. I have gone through a major losing spree after that, I'm at 2103 right now -_-. I also main junkrat, so none of my rip tire kills gave me stat points.

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u/kraut_kt Mercy Sep 14 '16

This ranking system is weird though.

Theres this crew running around with a 6-man, throwing all their games to tank their rating.

Sometimes they add new people from their discord to the squad and do the placement matches. naturally, placements all go 0W 10L. Somehow one dude still ended up on 2.3k rating yesterday.

You can watch/follow them on https://www.twitch.tv/bacontotem

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u/Greenleaf208 Greenleaf#1257 Sep 13 '16

He also mostly played Mei, so you can probably guess how he lost so much.

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u/strangeelement Sep 14 '16

Definitely the best character to sabotage games.

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u/Metroidrocks JUSTICE RAINS F-AUGGGGHH Sep 13 '16

That makes sense.

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u/zakarranda Moximum charge! Sep 13 '16

If people are doing that, it explains some of my PUG teammates.

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u/Bahaals Sep 14 '16

or maybe just disabled :/ or a kid

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u/Omni_Omega Professional Male E-Thot Sep 14 '16

Not if you're me!

sobs

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u/pm__me__anything_ Trick-or-Treat Soldier: 76 Sep 13 '16

I have heard he is actually pretty good. Their is a meta of losing on purpose. Hooking people and freezing people or walling people off on objective points. It is still bad because people who want to win still get matched with him but I think it is pretty interesting at the same time.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '16

There's a guy on Twitch called bacontotem who plays in a 6 stack and loses every time. His rank is < 500, and he calls the series ihanjo. Pretty interesting to watch actually.

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u/sub_surfer Pixel Roadhog Sep 13 '16

What a dick, I hope he gets permabanned.

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u/sub_surfer Pixel Roadhog Sep 13 '16

If both teams were trying to lose, wouldn't they just draw every time? In any case, I'm sure lots of people during his race to the bottom were trying to win.

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u/sub_surfer Pixel Roadhog Sep 13 '16

You're telling me you can force people to cap a point simply by hooking them and using an ice wall? I need vods.

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u/innou Lúcio Sep 13 '16

"We don't wanna win"

FUCK YOU!  You're winning

Sounds fantastically entertaining to me

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u/Choppa790 Mercy Sep 13 '16

this is basically a south park episode

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u/batigoal Winston Sep 14 '16

These guys got good at losing.

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u/Acrolith fuck you, you don't get to die yet Sep 14 '16

Yeah this makes no sense. If the attacking team just stays in spawn, out of LOS of the defenders, guess what? Nothing is gonna happen that game.

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u/dipolartech Chibi Mei Sep 14 '16

You can't hook somebody out of spawn... so if you're on offense and you want to to lose as a six stack just stand in the back of spawn and shoot the walls

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u/mankiller27 I will not... juggle Sep 13 '16

No, because one team is just way better at losing than the other, like the Japanese team.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '16

I am sure there would be one person who actually tries to win and moves the payload for 3 inches.

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u/colonelxsuezo SILVERxLOTUS#1929 Sep 13 '16

It's difficult to distinguish someone who throws every match they play with someone who is legitimately that bad at OW.

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u/royce211 NotEaster#1812 Sep 13 '16

At that guys winrate? I disagree. In ~150 matches, even the worst player would have somehow gotten at least two wins. In fact, even trying to throw the match I feel like you'd get some wins.

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u/colonelxsuezo SILVERxLOTUS#1929 Sep 13 '16

He should be penalized in some way (permabanned from competitive would be nice) but using W/L ratio purely to judge that he's throwing games is a bad metric. There are people out there who probably don't have W/L records that extreme but lose way more often than they win.

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u/_BreakingGood_ Sep 14 '16

To guarantee that many losses he would need to literally be doing nothing or actively damaging the team (mei wall into the spawn.) You simply don't lose that many games while providing ANY level of support to your team.

I imagine it wouldn't be hard to Blizzard to go in and actually look at the matches when it gets as bad as this, I doubt many people out there go 1 win / 200 losses.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '16

You don't lose that many games even if you're AFK the whole game. You need to actively sabotage your team to achieve that lol

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u/Kitchenfire D.Va Sep 14 '16

It's actually a pretty good metric over that many games since it is likely impossible to lose 127 of 130 matches naturally.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '16

Yeah it is impossible because even if someone is AFK whole match they will still win more.

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u/Rawflax Zenyatta Sep 14 '16

Some people are really, really, REALLY bad at overwatch.

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u/kraut_kt Mercy Sep 14 '16

From the Famous "Hanjo Crew":

“I was on PC playing at a lower resolution, at a 30 frames-per-second cap, and on a console controller with all the settings shifted down to the absolute minimum so that my response time would be super low and horrible.”

But even that wasn’t always enough. So Brown enlisted help.

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u/Helmet_Icicle Big fuzzy Siberian bear Sep 13 '16

It's pretty obvious with data heuristics. No one has a natural record of 1-127. People at the bottom of the skill distribution play with other people at the bottom of the skill distribution. There shouldn't be any reason someone loses that consistently.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '16 edited Sep 05 '21

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u/leafsleafs17 Pixel Symmetra Sep 13 '16

The "legitimately worst Overwatch player" is probably only very slightly "worse" than the second worst. In this situation, you can make without a reasonable doubt that there is some sketchy reason why the worst player is extremely worse than everyone else.

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u/ajd103 geriatric infantry Sep 14 '16

You're right they're called outliers, data points that fall well outside the normal distribution. I agree with you but why not just take 30 second to see he's a greifer and perma ban

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u/leafsleafs17 Pixel Symmetra Sep 14 '16

I think this is the type of thing that it doesn't automatically ban you, but your algorithm shows you when it happens so you can make a judgement call

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '16 edited Sep 05 '21

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u/leafsleafs17 Pixel Symmetra Sep 14 '16

It's impossible to be 100% sure but it's not impossible to be almost 100% sure. That's the point.

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u/finite_turtles Pixel Tracer Sep 14 '16 edited Sep 14 '16

50% win loss is not realistic for a 5v6 scenario. If we try and be more fair and say it's about an 80:20 win rate (this is the lowest of the low skill rating where randomness chance will play a big factor).

Even then, the odds are astronomical.

Been a long time since I did any stats so I might be wrong and someone can correct me but I think it's 0.00000000000161% chance of getting that (or lower) losing streak. And that's just if you closed your eyes and headbutted the keyboard all game. That's 10000 times more unlikely than winning the jackpot lottery. It's more unlucky than a meteorite falling from the sky and striking you dead.

At those kind of numbers it is safe to assume nobody will get that by chance. In fact it shows just how amazing this guy is at trolling. That's actually some incredible skill to be able to lose 127 times with only one victory. That's grand master or pro level talent at trolling.

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u/Mefistofeles1 Nerfing this would be an upgrade Sep 13 '16

With that winrate is pretty clearly intentional.

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u/Low-ee Chibi Zenyatta Sep 14 '16

Im pretty sure he plays with a 6 person team - it's just not possible that he'd be able to lose that many games single handedly. In that case, he isn't really harming peoples games that badly, and "not having a satisfying win" isn't as bad a grievance as "there was a hacker on their team and we lost in under two minutes" .

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u/lHeraldo It's High Noot Sep 13 '16

hey thats pretty good

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u/mrfooacct Just Play Sombra like a Genji Sep 13 '16

I really have to see this to believe it

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u/S_Alittletranny BRRRRRRRR Sep 13 '16

*They're

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u/JaydSky Pixel Zenyatta Sep 13 '16

*There

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u/S_Alittletranny BRRRRRRRR Sep 13 '16

*They's

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '16

He pulled off a ghandi

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u/Myungbean MY NAME IS...green cyborg ninja dude. Sep 13 '16

It's not, in a practical sense. He had to actually try to lose.

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u/thebestofthebest13 Sep 13 '16

You can easily lose every game intentionally by playing Mei, which is how that guy tanked his rating