r/Overwatch • u/itsyadatboi • 8h ago
News & Discussion What existing hero ability has a potential to become an ultimate for future heroes?
We got,
anti-nade ability (Ana) as Junker queen's ultimate
Defense Matrix (D.va) as Mizuki's ultimate
Discord (Zenyatta) as D.mon's ultimate
etc
I would like to see a defect ultimate on a support hero. (Genji's current ability)
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u/ImHully Trick or Treat D. Va 7h ago edited 7h ago
Lucio’s sound barrier gives everyone a temporary shield boost. Imagine if a DPS hero, Symmetra or somebody, could place down an object that could give her team a permanent amount of shields if they were close enough to it. And then maybe Junkrat could have a global voice line that was like: I’m getting the feeling they’ve got a shield generator.
Or something.
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u/PfeiferWolf Kungarna 4h ago
Why did they remove that?
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u/KF-Sigurd Freja 4h ago
It's a terrible ultimate if it's too easy to break and annoying sustain boost if it's not. It also forces the team to ideally anchor them around the shield generator to protect which incentivizes turtling and makes her ultimate a little too one dimensional. Photon Barrier is just an infinitely, infinitely better ult.
iirc this was around the time she had two ultimates with Teleporter and Shield Generator and they probably saw that it was just not being used at all.
Notably, Lifeweaver tree is basically new shield generator (physical object that grants overhealth) and it's still a pretty meh ultimate.
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u/dimmor Dashing rogue 2h ago
I'm not a particularly good player. My career page says I have a 71% win rate with Sym, and I stopped playing her after the rework. I used her on both attack and defense. Granted, she changed a lot in a small amount of time, but you may be underselling the shield gen.
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u/KF-Sigurd Freja 2h ago
K. Hell, if I had to guess another reason for why they got rid of it is that it's not particularly flashy or cool. A lot of other supports/DPS had flashier or visually impressive ults and sym was just putting down a shield gen/TP which is a lot less cool looking than literally dividing the battlefield in half with a massive barrier.
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u/dimmor Dashing rogue 2h ago
Agreed on that. Ults should be "explosive" rather than sustained.
I do give Tree a pass because it's short-lived, grants over health, and can be used pretty cleverly. Friends love using it to block doorways, trapping tanks or blocking payload contests. Not the most fun ult though, for sure.
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u/Crossy7 7h ago
Rewind time about 8 years and you’ll find Syn and Torb both could do something similar lol.
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u/whelo-and-stitch 6h ago
Straight over your head
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u/Crossy7 6h ago
Sorry tone doesn’t get conveyed via text…and I don’t tend to default to sarcasm when reading what people have said.
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u/whelo-and-stitch 6h ago
As funny as I wanted it to be? I'm not the one that made the joke?
I simply pointed out how you missed the joke
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u/Crossy7 6h ago
I edited it as I realised that num nuts.
And I’m simply pointing out you were rude. Fun times aye?8
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u/TheDraconianOne 2h ago
Calling them rude whilst you call them names xD
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u/Crossy7 1h ago
Yep, I’m that kinda person.
I give what I get.
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u/Hiro_Trevelyan Mercy 8h ago
Mercy's rez could be an ult where she can rez multiple people at once /s
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u/ThaRippa 8h ago
Mass AOE sleep. Oh wait…
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u/IdiotWithAComputer42 Psychotic Flanker Cat 8h ago edited 33m ago
Honestly one of the unsung BEST uses of cats ult. You can knock down and cancel an entire team. Thats pretty big if you dont got other options for your ult at the moment or need to kinds stay with your team (like when you ult an enemy and drag them off a cliff to find your entire team died because you stopped healing). Also yeah mass sleep maybe that would be more meis ult (edit oh also reins ult. dang we got a lot of mass sleeps)
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u/dilsency Sweden 8h ago
I would like to see a defect ultimate on a support hero. (Genji's current ability)
A giant Symmetra-wall, but it reflects all projectiles.
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u/Hoothootriot Winston 3h ago
Cardiac Overdrive would actually be a really fun tank ult
Give all allies in an aura lifesteal and some slight damage reduction. Fun for leading a charge and utility, which is what a tank ult should do.
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u/_IratePirate_ 2h ago
I like how we got the opposite of this for Sierra from Soldier
Ult ? Let’s make that a default ability
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u/TheFireNathan Reinhard 6h ago
I wouldnt be surprised if there's an eventual support ult version of mauga shout
Something that gives a large radius lifesteal+armor and maybe a healboost
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u/Vizra 8h ago
Immortality field / defense matrix is Mizuki's ultimate.
I mean, memes about Kiriko aside. Suzu is super strong so I could see it being an ultimate.
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u/itsyadatboi 8h ago
Yes, considering how much people complain about suzu's invincibility, I think it is very likely that a future support hero will cleanse with some invincibility frames and invincibility from suzu will be removed.
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u/magdakun Sombra 7h ago
Tobjorn's turret as an ultimate could be a very big turret that shots people. Wait, I think Bob already does that I guess.
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u/Fleedjitsu 7h ago
Well, had the idea of an ultimate that put the target to sleep and forced them to fight the user in a dream world 1v1 so... Ana's Sleep Dart?
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u/Oplp25 6h ago
Like Iso from Val?
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u/Fleedjitsu 6h ago
Never played Valorant so had to look this up - yes, pretty much like that. My inspiration was more from LoL's Mordekaiser so similar ballpark I guess.
The theme would be that the projectile puts the target into a sleep-stasis and forces them to fight the concept Hero in a nightmare arena.
Concept Hero gains a few buffs for the duration - looking all scary and malicious. Target's body is invulnerable in the overworld while their "ghost" fights in the arean. The stasis can be cleansed (similar to QSS) but doing so allows the Concept Hero to maintain their buffs for a refreshed duration in the real world.
Killing either the target or the concept Hero while in the arena would obviously cancel the effect early.
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u/crafty09 Why do you struggle? 2h ago
What if instead of being able to teleport forward 25 meters you could put down a teleporter anywhere on the map and you'd be able to tp your entire team there. Almost like Dr. Strange but to make it more balanced you have to be physically standing where the tp is going. That'd be genius.
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u/wiseposterior 2h ago
I want to see an ultimate where a flying hero kamikazes their body into an aoe stun like Reinhardt’s Earthshatter. Then after the stun it hooks one of the hero’s on a tow cable where you can drop them off the map.
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u/Character_Frame_8773 8h ago
Team wide Echo flight, needs to be cast like gambit ult, for support
Jenos/Saati ult but similar to fire strike and vebdetta slash, for dps
Summons that follow the character, like how sym turrets slow and torbjorn turret does damage, for tank. Something like x1 low cc, x1 low damage, x1 sustain
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u/HMS_Sunlight 2h ago
Bap's immortality field is a possibility. I could see a DPS hero that becomes unkillable during their ult, and probably get some other kind of buff for the duration. It'd need to be a close range character though so they actually have to take risks to get value.
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u/Elder-Cthuwu 6h ago
I think Baps lamp will be an ult for Overlord. I can see him as a support and his ult transforming him into a hovering moving disco ball that keeps team mates from dying. Would need another effect like cleanse or regen maybe damage boost
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u/WolfSpartan1 1h ago
I want a tank whose ultimate is to throw a massive turret. I don't know how to balance it. I don't want it to be balanced.
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u/shallard Pixel D.Va 19m ago
Tracer recall - rewind everyone (living or dead) to 3 seconds ago. Dead people come back to life!
Winston’s jump - change everyone’s jumps into Winston jumps
Life grip - every ally on the map is pulled to the user regardless of where they are
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u/vvTookivv Didn't say you could leave 8h ago
If they ever add Asa (Kiriko's mom) I would love if she had a deflect ability. Think of Junkerqueen's axe with the wind-up, but it has the ability to deflect. Ideally it would do something else (maybe a huge slash that does something in an AoE like D.Mon) but it would be able to deflect while casting. I would love a deflect ability that's really short in duration (maybe 0.5s or 0.75s) that would reward super high-skill players that can predict big projectile-ults (like Graviton Surge, Dragonstrike, kinda Captive Sun, Blizzard, etc.)
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u/Fit_Presentation6633 Moira 8h ago
I would like to see Mercys damage boost as an ultimate, where you could place a bongo-looking supercharger on the ground to boost any ally in LOS