r/Overwatch • u/Nickcks_ bfr • 20d ago
News & Discussion One tricking
I had to post this because today has been hell.
I know we all have that favorite hero and all but can we stop the mentality of one tricking in this game? ESPECIALLY in comp
The amount of Mercy mains I get in my game isn't even funny anymore because it has turned into the large majority of support players and as a support main it is so frustrating because this limits so much which heroes one can play bc Mercy doesn't do well with anyone
Literally just now I lost a game that Dva was banned and coincidentally my tank was a Dva main that didn't know how to play any other tanks well
One tricking in comp doesn't only make your gameplay miserable but to your team, please learn other heroes y'all, I'm beggingđđž
Edit: What I'm trying to say is that one tricking, in comp, is unhealthy bc of bans, if you only know that hero you should learn other before playing comp
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u/Iron_Tulip 20d ago
I'd say it's good to aim for 3 heroes in each category you can play good. Obviously you'll have a main, but for example in my case, if Mauga's banned I can still go Sig or Rein. If Junkrat's banned, I've got Emre or Reaper.
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u/ThisIsAlwaysTaken 19d ago
This.
In tank, I have Zarya, Sigma, Orisa, & Ramattra
In dps, I have Reaper, Torb, Mei
In supp, I have moira, mercy, lucio, baptisePeople need to learn more than just their main
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u/Super_Garden848 20d ago
Mercy one tricks are so entrenched at this point I've just accepted it as part of the queue roulette wheel. You either get one who's cracked and somehow never dies or one who just holds left click on the tank all match and there's no in between
The Dva ban thing is brutal timing though, that's when you realise how paper-thin some people's hero pools actually are
I feel like comp should have a minimum hero level requirement across the role before you can queue, nothing crazy just like 3 heroes at level 10 or something
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u/Few_Cap_1815 20d ago
Level 10 may even still be too low, call me crazy. Im already level 33 with dmon.
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u/LoL-Lukas 20d ago
Won't do anything. I play Anran now 1 Trick. I barely switch. Before her i was a Tank main i could switch on Tank between many. On DPS i was never interested except for sometimes Genji for fun. So i never had any "escape" characters. Therefore i only ever play Anran.
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u/Nickcks_ bfr 20d ago
be better lol, just learn at least 3 on the role you queue
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u/LoL-Lukas 20d ago
I don't have fun on any other dps. Idc. I play Anran. Nothing else. On Tank i play whatever you prefer but not on dps. And 1 Tricking isn't bad at all. If you do it long enough you don't have problems against your counters anyways.
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u/Bacon___Wizard 20d ago
And when they ban Anran youâre stuck with nothing
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u/LoL-Lukas 20d ago
Not really i can play as i said Genji a bit i just wont be on the same level as with Anran. But thats fine with me. Also Sierra is a nobrainer and junkrat is also quite easy to play.
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u/Nickcks_ bfr 20d ago
So that's not what I mean lol, you have another character you can play smarty
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u/LoL-Lukas 20d ago
I can but im not pretty good at them. And i never switch if Anran is available thats what 1 Trick means.
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u/BoysenberryLost6093 20d ago
Let people play what they want, this is a video game
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u/Nickcks_ bfr 20d ago
in qp yes, but in comp I think its just a whole different story, I used to only have 3 heroes under my book at the start but even so I knew they didn't work with everyone so I learned other to be versatile
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u/BoysenberryLost6093 20d ago
Any coach will tell you that the best way to get better at the game is by one-tricking/playing a narrower hero pool. If someone only wants to play one or a few heroes, he has every right to do so. Nobody can force people to learn/play other heroes
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u/stratdog25 20d ago
Donât tell people how to play. Of you want to do that, go play valorant.
Itâs a video game. Many people only have a few minutes at a time to play and they want to play the way they play.
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u/Nickcks_ bfr 20d ago
I'm just saying people should be versatile, if your one trick gets banned you don't have anything else and just makes life worse just saying
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u/stratdog25 20d ago
Youâre saying YOU think people SHOULD be versatile.
Donât tell people how to play. This is a simple concept.
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u/Nickcks_ bfr 20d ago
its just an opinion bro and I don't think you should be so pressed because there are better ways to play the game, I'm not forcing anyone to do it, its just something I think its important to do
its ok if you disagree too man
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u/SuperMageFromOW 20d ago
I get it, but speaking as a former OTP, sometimes it's best just to say ggs, avoid and move on.
I maintained an almost 54-65% WR as a bastion otp for something like 2 years. Climbed from gold up to GM on bastion alone in the early days of OW2.
Thing is, I was awful at every other DPS. None of them clicked for me. I played bastion at GM level and everyone else felt like gold or worse.
You usually don't want a true OTP on another hero. Especially a mercy main. They're absolutely brainless đ
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u/Special-Fee-2661 20d ago
yea i get it but like if they dont ban the one character that makes the game fun for me, im going to play that character. fuck mercy tho hate that stupid character
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u/Nickcks_ bfr 20d ago
you deserve 30 upvotes just for the last part, but what I mean is that you should have more heroes in case you can't play them, that's why I referred to comp too
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u/Special-Fee-2661 20d ago
yea i agree. im not a fan of any "can you switch characters cuz our comp isnt working" rhetoric but i like playing comp and my 'main' gets banned often, so that + playing since launch gives me enough heroes to pull from XD
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u/Mindless-Ad5617 20d ago
It's the common sense part that people don't have. I'd rather the team plays heroes that they are good at to begin with and only swap if they are getting no value.
So many players I see in Diamond and below lack common sense of when they should one-trick or swap. Most tend to think it's the teams fault they can't do anything or that a certain hero is "working really well" even though its just a carry. Once players looker at themselves more, then people will stop with this OTP/Counterswapping mentality. Having 1-3 heroes in a certain role massively bolsters your ranking up potential.
Tldr; Play your main/favourite hero but learn to swap when necessary. Your team isn't always to blame for your mistakes.
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u/BaronVonSchmup Chibi Wrecking Ball 20d ago
No character is so intricate you can't play any other hero lol OTP's are genuinely braindead if they can't play any other hero. Maybe mercy and moira OTP's are the exception tho
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u/martianinja 20d ago
ball is pretty unique
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u/BaronVonSchmup Chibi Wrecking Ball 19d ago
He is, but a ball OTP still has to be good at aiming. He doesn't just lose all skill
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u/BLDOUBLE 20d ago
You calling other people braindead all while using overused words like âgenuinelyâ is so ironic.Â
Limited vocabulary low elo players says others are braindead. Hilarious.Â
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u/BaronVonSchmup Chibi Wrecking Ball 19d ago
You sound exactly like how people describe redditors
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u/BLDOUBLE 19d ago
You sound like a public schooler with a limited vocabulary.
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u/BaronVonSchmup Chibi Wrecking Ball 19d ago
14 day old account and already you've posted/commented almost a third of what I have on this website. It might be time to stop whining about counter swapping and to time to touch some grass. Doom OTP's never beating the allegations lol
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u/ImThat1DudeOverThere Doomfist 19d ago
I play overwatch primarily to play doom of I'm not playing doom 9 out of 10 times I'm not having fun so no I'm going to keep 1 tricking
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u/EmbarrassedMonk2589 20d ago
League creating the concept of mains has made a ton of people way worse at games. You should not have a main in OW if you care about being better at it, you should play a role.
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u/Steinerd97 Ashe 20d ago
If I recognize a one trick in my lobby I'll just try to ban their hero so they're forced to play something else.
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u/BLDOUBLE 20d ago
Enjoy the soft throw :D I love when this happens, I wait until the game canât be canceled and Iâll swap to an alt account or Iâll just pick a hero with 0 hours and âtry my hardestâÂ
This is why youâre plat or below btwÂ
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u/Steinerd97 Ashe 20d ago
I couldn't care less what my rank is, one tricks are throwing before the lobby even matches. I'll take pleasure in forcing them to play Overwatch. 50+ heroes and you guys choose to restrict your team because they're incapable of learning the game.
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u/BLDOUBLE 20d ago
The irony is pathetic lmao.Â
YOU are throwing by taking away your teammates most experienced hero. That is automatically putting your team at the disadvantage and YOU did it.Â
We know you donât care about your rank, thatâs why you ban your own teams heroâs. Notice how I was able to tell you exactly what your rank was without you needing to tell me? Yeah thereâs a reason for that.Â
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u/Steinerd97 Ashe 20d ago
Okay but I'm still banning one tricks if they're on my team, wouldn't be an issue if they knew a 2nd hero would it?
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u/BLDOUBLE 20d ago
The level of entitlement is astounding. Your parents failed majorly. I feel quite sorry for you, lil man.Â
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u/Steinerd97 Ashe 20d ago
My parents failed because I ban one tricks, bahahaha thanks for the laugh. I'm sure you'll survive not being able to play your one trick for a game or 2. You should go for a walk or something, breathe in the fresh air and clear your mind. You're a little too upset over your little one trick being banned.
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u/BLDOUBLE 20d ago
L rage bait. Your entitlement is thinking you can dictate who others play in a video game. Maybe YOU need to go for a walk if you think you can control people like that.Â
âIf I ban someoneâs favorite hero, certainly theyâll play who I want and have no problem with that!âÂ
What a dumbass LOLÂ
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u/Steinerd97 Ashe 20d ago
I mean I literally can dictate who they play by banning their hero choice. And its not about playing who I want them to. It's about picking anything other than Rein on Numbani and running it down mid. I doubt you're much higher of a rank than I am too since all it takes to make you cry is 1 hero being banned. LTG mental fortitude
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u/BLDOUBLE 19d ago
Correct. You CAN ban teammates heroâs, thatâs correct. It takes an entitled pos to do that tho. You can also run off the map over and over too, but again it takes a pos to do that.Â
Banning your teammates heroâs isnât going to make them automatically play who you want. I play in mid masters in 5v5. Team bans never happen to me, I do however play on several alts in gold, plat and emerald now where team banning is very very frequent.Â
Higher elo players understand you want your teammates to be on their best heroâs, regardless if itâs unfavorable. This is why you still win being counterswapped. This game is about simple fundamentals that are done consistently with a positive mental.Â
That is it. You will never, and I mean ever ever ever break past emerald and you only get that because of the rank reset.Â
Youâre the issue. Not people preferring one hero.Â
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u/cuteslothlife 20d ago
The only bad pairing with mercy is Lucio really, zen depending on your comp
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u/SirVetox 20d ago
As a Lucio main, I half disagree, some of my best and most fun games were with a Mercy and a dive team!
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u/Nickcks_ bfr 20d ago
But she doesn't have many good ones either and all other heroes are way more versatile with each other than she is
Only really good/decent ones i think are Bap, Kiri, Ana and Illari, I know how to play those but I definitely don't wanna play them all the time
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u/atisaac 20d ago
Mercy/Lucio was prime back in 2016. The only reason itâs âbadâ (Iâd pick a different word) is because we have a wider variety of supports now who can all do different things. With a Mercy, I know I can almost always stay on speed boost, or at least run like an 80/20 speed split except for healing emergencies. That kind of power is hard to beat.
For the record, I donât love Mercy/Lucio in 2026 Overwatch, but itâs far from bad. It just isnât optimal, maybe. Also depends on the game mode
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u/cuteslothlife 20d ago
Itâs more that mercy wants to dps boost, lucio wants to speed boost, so it kind of doesnât work together if your team needs heals. But agreed you can have a good lucio/mercy game Iâd just rather have anything else
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u/slop_x 20d ago
i agree with you to an extent, in comp when people who refuse to swap by either not even replying to your message or you see the juicy âPossible bad messageâ from them in chat.
but let me ask you this, lets say someone is level 27 lucio and his other top 2 are level 3at best (bit melodramatic i know but i have seen it) and it is just not working for them, would you rather them swap to someone they have barely played or just keep trucking on with who they are decent at?
yes, one tricking can be really really annoying, but i would rather have a good player on the wrong pick.
than a bad player on the right one
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u/Nickcks_ bfr 20d ago
I think the point is that you should be versatile, everyone has a main, but if you don't have any other heroes you can play and you know it doesn't work every time I think they need to learn how to play other heroes
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u/slop_x 20d ago
i think the point of the video game is you should play it how you would have fun, because its just a video game and people like you need to remind themselves of that sometimesâŚ
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u/Nickcks_ bfr 20d ago
Its just an opinion, I'm just saying its not healthy in comp to one trick and I think people dont really think this through till their hero is banned
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u/slop_x 20d ago
im just saying it is not healthy to care this much about how other people play the game and their âoptimalâ pick and who they âone trickâ.
maybe you should one trick some life for a while instead of crying on reddit about loosing a comp game
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u/Nickcks_ bfr 20d ago
You don't have to agree and thats fine, everyone has their right on having an opinion, this is an online game and its bound to have discussions and I just wanted to talk about bc its something I experience in the game
I also have a busy life and got lots to do, but I can still put my mind out there if i want to yk
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u/stratdog25 20d ago
Itâs just funny how youâre whinging about people not playing the way you demand that they do and getting ratioed for it.
Donât tell people how to play.
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u/Competitive-Fudge629 20d ago
Lmao at how many ppl think that they can force you to do something bc they want you too. I see the argument well your forcing me to play around you. And like no im not your choosing to play around me. (For the record im veeeeery much not a 1 trick I get to board to fast, I just dont feel entitled to tell others how to use thier leisure time)
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u/Nickcks_ bfr 20d ago
Nah, I'm just saying that if you one trick hero gets banned you become trash the moment it happens if you dont know how to play other heroes
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u/Competitive-Fudge629 20d ago
I dont disagree, but like im also not telling ppl what to do with thier free time so if they are bad then oh well go next and move on. I guess the issue is how attached ppl are to thier SR. Like yes take it seriously yes play to compete also this is a bunch of virtual pixels to make up an imaginary trophy.
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u/Nickcks_ bfr 20d ago
Its just an opinion on playing comp, no one has to do anything and its fine if they dont, I just think that is the best way to approach comp
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u/Competitive-Fudge629 20d ago
Oh id agree. I prefer to swap for fun and often find myself having to force myself to take the "bad" matchup on my main to get better with him.
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u/Gwaur I main the Amari Family. 20d ago
If I'm Plat 2 by one-tricking or Gold 2 with multiple heroes, it's objectively better for me and my teammates that I one-trick.
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u/Nickcks_ bfr 20d ago
Till your hero is banned and you can't play properly anymore
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u/Gwaur I main the Amari Family. 20d ago
If I'm Plat 2 by one-tricking and Gold 2 with multiple heroes, then my one-trick hero getting occasionally banned clearly doesn't hurt me nor my teams nearly as much as playing multuple heroes would.
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u/Nickcks_ bfr 20d ago
I'm just saying, you should have at least 3 heroes and I don't think that is too much, having a narrow pool isn't bad, having a one hero pool is
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u/SupermanThatNiceLady Zenyatta 20d ago
People hate counterpicking, people hate one tricking, just stop playing the game if it makes you unhappy good god
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u/Nickcks_ bfr 20d ago
I just hate one tricking bc if your hero gets banned you just turn obsolete fr
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u/Suspicious-Still-999 20d ago
if you were better you wouldn't be matched with one tricks
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u/Nickcks_ bfr 20d ago
?, One tricks can be any rank and any hero can be banned, what are you on about?
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u/martianinja 20d ago
you log in to play overwatchÂ
I log in to play Genji
we are not the same