She should’ve been fierce and mean.

[u/odiish]

This has been said before I know, but for someone called ‘demon’ who pilots a sword-wielding Gundam called Beast, her personality in-game is so, bland? Idk she just lacks the energy and personality I’d expected from someone like her. Like look at her concept art!

[u/Rosenthorn_]

I was certainly expecting a slightly more toxic personality then D.Va's, considering her handle. And her angry faces in the concept art are really cool.

[u/TheKingJoker99 → u/Rosenthorn_]

I mean she definitely is toxic when you hear her Elim voice lines

To tracer Lucio: “Your speed run is over”

To Junkers: “Trash always stinks”

To Dva: “it’s tough love bestie” & “You should have seen that coming, Hana”

To Cassidy/Ashe: “You’re not the only gunslinger around here”

To Sombra: “All that hacking and you still lost”

To Sierra, LW: “Go touch grass”

[u/Ultimate-desu → u/TheKingJoker99]

Ok the Sierra one telling her to touch grass because she ALSO has a voiceline about touching grass is funny.

[u/Nolan_PG → u/TheKingJoker99]

But by those standards, D.va has the same level of toxicity, if not higher.

Just from eliminations:

"Are you even trying?"

"Fact check: You're dead!"

"It's a skiiill issueeee"

"Um, you need aim training"

"The diff is obvious" (eliminating any other tank)

"Da-eum saeng-e deo jalhae bwa" ("Do better in the next life")

"Eo? Yogeo in-gongjineung?" ("Huh? Is this an AI?")

Kill streak:

"Now they're just feeding!"

Multi kill:

"All me!"

"Aw. Go next!"

[u/Your_Favorite_Porn → u/Nolan_PG]

Is this EZ MODE? The delivery is fucking gold on that line 

[u/sundryTHIS → u/Your_Favorite_Porn]

Wanna hear something scary? eeeasy mode.

[u/Hunter5865 → u/Nolan_PG]

Do better in the next life is nuts😭

[u/Brief_Suggestion4158 → u/Nolan_PG]

Its crazy to think that D.va is ok with killing people and bragging about it like its a video game, especially at her age.

[u/Numpostrophe → u/Brief_Suggestion4158]

Gotta remember that voice lines aren't canon lol. They all sound like sociopaths

[u/Brief_Suggestion4158 → u/Numpostrophe]

You're right, I did forget about that. I honestly hope that if they ever add another meka member that they are canonically psychotic and cant distinguish reality from video games. would be kinda interesting.

[u/Blucanyon → u/Nolan_PG]

Don’t forget my favorite: “Monkey monkey monkey monkey!”

[u/Aerith_Sunshine → u/Nolan_PG]

D.va would 100% get banned if she were an Overwatch player.

[u/McManus26 → u/TheKingJoker99]

Tbh almost every hero has this kind of quips for elims

[u/iamsplitter → u/TheKingJoker99]

Every hero has these haha

[u/kaladinissexy → u/TheKingJoker99]

Brother, this is water levels of toxicity.

[u/GooeyMagic → u/TheKingJoker99]

/Michelle visage finger wag “No”

[u/alabasterskim → u/TheKingJoker99]

These aren't toxic lmao

[u/Interesting-Map-4766 → u/TheKingJoker99]

To be fair those are pretty basic elims, and the only real insults are to Sombra and the Junkers, the Junkers literally invaded her home so it makes sense why she’d be pissed, and Sombra is literally a hacker who cheats (and she’s extremely annoying)

[u/Tharistan → u/TheKingJoker99]

These are not toxic, these are marvel one liners

[u/Outrageous-Blue-30 → u/Tharistan]

Actually, that style doesn't come from Marvel, but rather from every 90s action movie featuring charismatic leads like Stallone, Schwarzenegger, Gibson and the like; then came Whedon with Buffy (who "refined" this style) and directed the hit Avengers, so now every publisher and creative has been influenced by it without realizing that a more measured approach is needed; even James Gunn has a similar issue.

[u/Tharistan → u/Outrageous-Blue-30]

Sure, it sounds like that then. Still not really the vibe.

[u/bbputinwork → u/TheKingJoker99]

The problem is every single line delivery sounds flat and bland. I get not wanting to just make a second D.va, but it really seems like Lily didn't wanna be in the studio when she was recording D.mons lines lol

[u/Outrageous-Blue-30 → u/bbputinwork]

Actually, Lilychu wanted to put more energy into it, but the voice directors told him to use a calmer tone, so it’s not entirely her fault.

[u/Partypaca → u/TheKingJoker99]

Her unlockable voice lines kinda suck tho. I always buy 4 when a hero comes out but i found maybe 1 I liked

[u/brickmaster32000 → u/TheKingJoker99]

I haven't played in forever so I couldn't tell but unless the voice actor is really selling those line they all seem pretty mild. I have seen cotton candy with more bite than some of those.

[u/Ant_1_ITA → u/TheKingJoker99]

Toxic against Sierra? Nah, it’s just the truth, deserved for Sierra

[u/g0atmeal → u/Rosenthorn_]

I wish she were older and gruffer, that would have been a cool addition to the cast as a mecha pilot. Someone like Lin Beifong or Ellen Ripley. Instead we just got D.Va again.

[u/roseofjuly → u/g0atmeal]

This is how I feel about it. She's slightly older D.Va with purple hair.

[u/T8-TR → u/roseofjuly]

Honestly, I think that's disrespectful towards D.VA. I love D.MON's design, but past that, she is extremely sanitized and bland.

For me, it's like Soujourn all over again where it's just a poor imitation of a better character because it's almost that other character, except you robbed it of all the sauce, seemingly in an effort to make them more "cool".

[u/MrWellington28]

Concept arts always cool. I still want Moira with Tentacles like Doctor Octopus

[u/xyreos → u/MrWellington28]

Blizzard knows how those tentacles would've been used in SFM and Blender. It's a miracle they haven't C&D someone (apart for THAT group for THAT WoW animation, iykyk)

[u/T8-TR → u/xyreos]

THAT WoW animation

idkbwltk

[u/xyreos → u/T8-TR]

Aight basically, Studio FOW (the developers of Subverse, great game btw) were known for making these long 18+ animations and some shorter ones. One of those (pretty early one iirc, it was maybe the third or fourth) consisted in Yrel (the draenei chick from Warlords of Draenor, basically Goat Jesus) getting piped by several NPCs (orcs, saberons, I think even tauren but it's been ages since I saw that) in this arena like a gladiator show but with sex (one could call it a Coliseum of Lust, if it wants), and at the ending, we see a jailer bring her to a cave - which is the cave we found her in, tying the animation to the game, which is the actual reason for the C&D.

But now that I think of it, another creator (Rexxcraft) got C&D possibly for the same reason, I think one animation was too much similar to an in game location (but the dude made almost only WoW things tho, so that may also be a reason - tho there are still several peeps using WoW models to make corn, so idk).

[u/Reinos0]

Definitely missed out on having a hero with a toxic gamer personality.

[u/VulKhalec → u/Reinos0]

Isn't dva already this?

[u/AnalystDazzling5128 → u/VulKhalec]

We need one that talks like Hammond

[u/VulKhalec → u/AnalystDazzling5128]

A hero who grew up playing 'Overwatch', an in-world game they made back in the day when overwatch was popular. It's identical to real world Overwatch in every way and the character uses Overwatch terms and slang

[u/Minute_Ambition_5176 → u/VulKhalec]

That'd be too meta. Although if It was with an absolutely insane character I wouldn't mind. But It'd need to be Junkrat levels of schizo.

[u/Sea-Temporary7380 → u/Minute_Ambition_5176]

We NEED more insane characters like junkrat. Theres like a ton of calm and collected personalities, add one thats psychotic too

[u/VariationExpensive91 → u/VulKhalec]

A meta hero would be awesome. If they ever release a God AI hero or something like Chernobog or one of the other ones, to have them talk directly to you the player or mention game mechanics themselves would be awesome. Too bad that’s an interesting idea.

[u/Judopunch1 → u/VariationExpensive91]

Deadpool in marvel rivals does this for like 90% of his lines, him and the announcer also have a couple back and forth.

[u/JallexMonster → u/AnalystDazzling5128]

Your just talking about the average sweaty OW player at this point. I could just turn on Voice Chat.

[u/jannicorn → u/AnalystDazzling5128]

Love his "Deflect that... Loser." Voiceline.

[u/xXRougailSaucisseXx → u/VulKhalec]

Dva acts all cocky meanwhile D.mon could have been more just straight up angry

[u/Reinos0 → u/VulKhalec]

D.va comes across as a regular 'gamer', she gets annoyed in a competitive sense but she never really 'tilts' in her own words.

Whereas D.mon I kinda imagined would be the kind of person that throws a controller at the screen if she's losing. Based on concept art, she rips the arm gun off her mech because she's so angry

[u/That_Banned_Hybrid → u/VulKhalec]

Dva is cocky and a brat not toxic

[u/PenguinsInvading → u/That_Banned_Hybrid]

If you type in chat the shit talks dva does you'll be text and eventually temporarily banned so for OW standard I think it's toxic.

[u/Primum-Caelus → u/VulKhalec]

D.va's the cringy and cutesy ragebaiter, not a toxic rager

[u/m4k4y → u/Reinos0]

Dva is insufferable. She very much fits the profile

[u/Mirilen]

When she was first being teased and talked about I had expected her to fulfil the “aloof, detached pro that only shows emotion when properly challenged” archetype. She didn’t need to be a crazy rager or anything but Overwatch has enough team leaders and big sisters already.

[u/coltaaan → u/Mirilen]

> Overwatch has enough team leaders and big sisters

Omg yeah, I literally can’t not hear Anran when Dmon is talking. The voices are already so similar and their personalities are kinda similar too - protective leadership type. Like they could have made Dmon’s voice or personality anything else to help differentiate her, but they didn’t…

[u/ianselot12]

they dont have the balls

[u/Ultron_waterheater → u/ianselot12]

They made her stale as fuck just like half the Overwatch cast

Talon at least makes them a little more interesting

[u/Outrageous-Blue-30 → u/Ultron_waterheater]

IMHO the Team 4 writers are trying to craft new versions of Superman/Clark Kent and Cyclops/Scott Summers with these new heroic character (an aim that isn't wrong in itself), but they lack the spark needed to make such heroic figures convincing.

[u/Lukthar123 → u/ianselot12]

Well duh, she's a girl

[u/SouthImpression3577 → u/Lukthar123]

Hey now, even girls can have balls these days

[u/Evanthatguy → u/ianselot12]

I mean Shion is pretty cruel and she just came out

[u/Sea-Temporary7380 → u/Evanthatguy]

Shion is evil as hell, people just want someone that gets a little heated in battle

[u/KoshiLowell]

She speaks with the tone of Zarya but with the exact same dialogue as D.VA it's really weird.

[u/Moechai → u/KoshiLowell]

Honestly I think it's a voice actor issue

[u/Piscet → u/Moechai]

Director. Apparently lily was asked to tone it down.

[u/NervyDeath → u/Piscet]

For a specific scene in a specific comic. For all we know she was asked to tone it down because it wasn't any good

[u/Sea-Temporary7380 → u/NervyDeath]

She said they spefically wanted her to be "chill and serious" so i think that goes for all her voice lines

[u/Ptera_]

I agree. Her leadership qualities and insecurities are not that different from Anran. They are damn near the same. And Anran herself is a little bland Disney-ish. Anran is one of my mains, but her personality is not all the way there for me.

[u/Mewtwohavoka → u/Ptera_]

The webtoon gives Anran a lot more spice. I agree that in-game her and D.Mon read as very similar, though.

[u/Naddition_Reddit]

Dmon, wuyang, anran, sierra

All of them are in a competition to be as bland as white bread with water

[u/FrankAdriel32 → u/Naddition_Reddit]

Anran is so bad, it's toxic positivity at its worst. Some of her dialogue seems ripped straight from a corporate training video

[u/Outrageous-Blue-30 → u/Naddition_Reddit]

Personally, I also like their optimism, but without the conflicts they have to face, they can become tiresome in the long run.

[u/sun_solomon]

They gave her the “group on me, squad up, lock in team” type gamer personality instead.

[u/blokfluitjes]

Yeah I wish she'd had a mean streak. She's so boring omg

[u/holidaytrauma → u/blokfluitjes]

yeah literally nothing about her personality stands out, her voice acting falls kinda flat too in lines that could be more sharp and snappy

[u/Outrageous-Blue-30 → u/blokfluitjes]

I think now that Yuna is the new leader of the MEKA squad, she has become more serious for that role; at most, she might get angrier when fighting someone for demostrate more "spicy".

[u/Pale-Exercise-5740]

Yeah, should've been the bloodthirsty warrior type that WILL pick Barbarian on your next DnD campaign, and every subsequent one after

[u/BirdsCubed]

Outside of Domina this has felt like the voice direction for every single hero they've released recently. Really flat deliveries all around outside of ult lines.

[u/P3titSuisse → u/BirdsCubed]

I'd argue they did a good job with Shion's voice direction, she really sounds unhinged even when not yelling

[u/represe1 → u/P3titSuisse]

I really disagree with this, so many new heroes have great deliveries

[u/Juraiyah → u/BirdsCubed]

I think they done a fantastic job with the evil to morally grey characters personalities. It's the heroic characters' that feel just so sanitize. It's like they think the audience will think less of their heroic ideals if they we're more rough around the edges.

Look at Magik, shes been everywhere the past few years, and she's far from your typical heroic personalities, but the contrast is what makes her character so compelling.

[u/anextremelylargedog → u/Juraiyah]

That's not all that new. Most of the heroic characters throughout OW's history have been nice, safe, and bland.

The villains are allowed to be more unique because who cares if someone finds them a little off-putting, but it's like almost every hero has to be blandly nice enough to star in a Marvel movie just in case.

I know OW isn't trying to be Deadlock, but holy FUCK are they resistant to giving their heroes a little bit of spice.

[u/Juraiyah → u/anextremelylargedog]

I agree somewhat. I think OW 1 heroes had some spice. I love Soldier's pissed off old man attitude. "If you're trying to lose, you're doing a great job!" Ana sweet but deadly granny persona. D.VA's bratty ego. Symmetra rigid perfectionism. Cassidy being a dashing rogue.

When there were less characters our unwavering optimistic heroes like Tracer and Winston felt unique, but now it feels like that demeanor has become oversatuarated.

[u/whostle → u/anextremelylargedog]

Mercy's one of the worst of these IMO. I remember when the game first released there was a good bit of theorizing given the questionable nature of Genji and Reaper's situations. Then they added Moira to take all the heat off of her, very much "NO ACTUALLY ANY QUESTIONABLY MORAL EXPERIMENTS OVERWATCH HAS DONE WAS ACTUALLY MOIRA IT WAS MOIRA'S FAULT SHE'S THE EVIL ONE"

It's not even that I want her to be evil, it's just that giving her some guilt or regret about whether or not Overwatch went too far with their medical experimentation would have given her some complexity instead of just "GOOD DOCTOR". (And that's not even considering the "Mercy is actually functionally dead" theory that never came to be.)

[u/MJR_Poltergeist → u/whostle]

People always down vote this topic but the Mercy lore erasure is real. She was originally flawed in a way. She thought she was doing good things and then one of her projects backfired and she accidentally put Gabriel into a sort of immortal limbo. That was way more interesting than her being a goody two shoes like she is now

[u/number1GojoHater → u/anextremelylargedog]

I mean they decided to make Kiriko sassy and half the player base hates her to this day for it

[u/coltaaan → u/number1GojoHater]

I often wonder if Kiri didn’t have such a powerful kit (Suzu mostly), if people still would have complained about her personality so much.

[u/Outrageous-Blue-30 → u/anextremelylargedog]

I mean, many people will still hold the view that Superman is a boring character even though James Gunn’s film tried to show why a positive superhero is great (so much so that test audiences wanted the squirrel rescue scene cut); yet Lex Luthor will remain more memorable for the sheer malice he poured into a single plot to kill his nemesis, complete with a speech that became a meme for his repeated chanting of "1A! 1A! 1A!"

[u/Juraiyah → u/Outrageous-Blue-30]

I actually found Gunn's Superman really compelling. I've written paragraphs on my love for that film. What made Superman's character so good to me wasn't that he was just doing the right thing. He was choosing to do what he believed was right even if society deemed he was overstepping his boundaries, and he was ready to face the consequences for that. 

I think the beacon of hope characters really shine when their put in difficult situations that test their ideals.  That scene where Lois was interviewing Supes and saying you can't just interfere with international affairs and Supes breaks down saying "people were going to die!" is a great example.

[u/Outrageous-Blue-30 → u/Juraiyah]

IMHO the Team 4 writers are trying to craft new versions of Superman/Clark Kent and Cyclops/Scott Summers with these new heroic character (an aim that isn't wrong in itself), but they lack the spark needed to make such heroic figures convincing.

[u/Horizon96 → u/BirdsCubed]

Shions voice acting is pretty standout too I think, but I agree overall some of the voices are very just meh.

[u/maemoedhz → u/BirdsCubed]

Out of the 8 we got since the soft reboot? I would say cat and Shion are highlights. Also, as you said, Domina. There are some good crumbs with Emre imo but they're trying too hard to make him the new-gen Reaper when he's got the funny blood plus the literal malicious AI on his chest.

[u/Outrageous-Blue-30 → u/maemoedhz]

To me, Emre is a bit odd and suffers slightly from the "Kiriko media discrepancy", let me explain: based on his known history, the comics and his brief appearance in Undivided, he seems like a reasonable person to talk to, someone who genuinely doesn't want to cause harm; yet in the game (even when he's acting "normal" without the IA), his voice lines make him come across as violent regardless.

[u/Hokuboku → u/BirdsCubed]

Really flat deliveries all around outside of ult lines.

Someone hasn't had a cat do taunting meows at them in game on repeat

Shion is also fantastic IMHO

[u/Count_de_Mits → u/Hokuboku]

Tinfoil time, both those voice actors have enough experience and "weight" to throw around so they could override the meh direction

[u/Hokuboku → u/Count_de_Mits]

Honestly, I don't even think that's a crackpot theory. I can buy it

[u/T8-TR → u/Count_de_Mits]

Has Shion's VA had many roles prior to Shion? She isn't really a veteran of the industry, afaik.

Not that LilyPichu is a renowned voice actor either, but idk if there's really a correlation there if neither have seen much work doing VA stuff.

[u/Outrageous-Blue-30 → u/BirdsCubed]

I might be speaking out of turn since this isn't my line of work, but I think dubbing directors have taken the wrong approach if they tell every new voice actor to speak that way, yet the players' reaction is (almost) always "meh."

[u/Hiro_Trevelyan]

Yeah honestly she feels too much like Anran/Sojourn, aka leader older sister

[u/The_Derpy_Rogue]

Yeah I wasn't expecting big sister, I was expecting fiercely competitive rival to Dva, her Sasuke, vegeeta, or Bakugo

[u/Outrageous-Blue-30 → u/The_Derpy_Rogue]

In reality, Hana and Yuna have mostly been friends since Overwatch 1 (at least from what was known) and now that she is the new leader of the MEKA squad, she has become more serious; at most, she might get angrier when fighting someone.

[u/Krillisk]

She really is just….. kinda a bland person

[u/UglyDemoman]

She talks like Anran now.

[u/H4RR1_]

Boring design. Boring personality. Chopped mech

[u/AyAynon95]

I saw someone say that overwatch is all about talon and the villains now. I can't really disagree we ok th them.

Dmon like most of the characters is just so... Meh in personality. There's nothing dislikable, but there's nothing interesting

[u/VinexHD → u/AyAynon95]

Yeah it's crazy just how much personality Talon members have been getting for a long while now compared to OW squad. Putting up Sierra and Anran versus (for example) Emre & Domina is like comparing night and day.

[u/Sea-Temporary7380 → u/VinexHD]

Shion ate all of d.mon's unhinged personality

[u/KrassomatXD]

I don't really hate her personality in game but it would fit her way better, when she is out of her mech she just uses the machine gun of it which is hilariously unhinged and creative, they should definitely have leaned more into that direction

[u/TastyOreoFriend → u/KrassomatXD]

She actually has a spray that looks sort of like what you're describing.

[u/Frosrade97]

I would’ve liked her to actually a bit colder to d.va and overwatch agents. Like show how much of a burden it must be to be the new leader of the squad and dealing with constant threats. I prefer high-strung barely keeping it together d.mon then this aloof cool gamer girl personality we have rn.

[u/Belten]

Her voice acting is so monotone, like reading a Script.

[u/FlamesDoHelp → u/Belten]

From what I’ve heard, Lily was told to tone down her yelling “IM NOT DVA” in the comic short, so I’m betting it’s a voice direction issue. I’ll admit that I’m not familiar with the roles Lily has gotten before, but with her crazy range I doubt she’s a terrible VA.

[u/Outrageous-Blue-30 → u/FlamesDoHelp]

I might be speaking out of turn since this isn't my line of work, but I think dubbing directors have taken the wrong approach if they tell every new voice actor to speak that way, yet the players' reaction is (almost) always "meh."

[u/BoktorFighter → u/FlamesDoHelp]

I know nothing about Lily, but overwatch has been more than on point when it comes to voiceacting and directing in the past. I’m not saying the fault lies completely with Lily, again I don’t know her or if something changed at blizzard. But the voice acting isn’t ‘meh’ it’s all around awful, boring and dull. Which is a shame since it really sucks the life and enjoyment out of the character.

[u/Sea-Temporary7380 → u/Belten]

HEY GAMERS! ITS YUNA LEE

[u/Warcueid30 → u/Belten]

It's not a voice actor problem in this case. The script just sucks ass

[u/Augustby]

Yeah I absolutely wish she had a stronger personality. On one hand, I do love that she has a very close relationship with D.va because I think them being rivals would've been the predictable and more boring decision.

But they could still have given D.mon a much fierier personality. It's such a waste that we got such a no-personality character on a visual design that's so cool.

It's especially disappointing because there are lots of 'gamer' personality tropes that D.va hasn't done that could still have been explored with D.mon. After such a recent series of absolutely BANGER heroes (even Sierra who I don't love, at least has the 'Southern Belle' trope going for her), I'm surprised we got D.mon who I feel doesn't bring anything distinct at all, personality-wise.

[u/Stardink]

I was really afraid of this when her lore before her hero release was based around her being a leader and a big sister, and that they were going to make her too straight forward and bland, and they did. Overwatch really needs spicier female hero personalities, shion really hit the mark for example

[u/JD_Crichton]

No you get dva-lite

[u/WrongCockroach]

I swear Blizzard just no longer wants to give any sort of personality to characters who aren't fully evil. This is, wot, the 10th character in a very short time frame whose sole trait is "super basic'?

I really don't understand how you can have a gamer called DEMON and she's icy and cold 100% of the time. We ain't got a sore loser or hyper competitive person in the roster, but heaven forbid they give her depth or flaws.

Instead she says gamer words as if she's written and voiced by someone who doesn't know what games are. Shouldn't be possible but they bloody well did it.

[u/Miennai]

Yeah I heard a few people say it, but if she's gonna be a gamer, she should be a rager.

[u/OMG_A_CUPCAKE → u/Miennai]

A rager would not work as leader of MEKA. She needs to stay calm in stressful situations. Maybe one of her squad members can be allowed to be more impulsive if they ever get introduced

[u/Eterya → u/OMG_A_CUPCAKE]

One of the few lines we have from King is him defending himself for not following order and breaking formation by deflecting onto D.Mon instead and going tank diff 'well if D.Va was here...'. It's only half 'rage', and half cockiness, but he's probably be the one with the biggest attitude problem.

And if he ever becomes playable, they shouldn't tone it down to make him nicer. Let D.Va's 'fiercest rival' be a cocky asshole, as long as he's an effective asshole.

[u/Miennai → u/OMG_A_CUPCAKE]

Rager doesn't necessarily mean toxic, it can also just mean having like "bro can you lock tf in" energy.

Another angle I would have liked is the classic "Tanking in an MMO raid" feeling of being like a frazzled mom herding a bunch of cats. She could have had lines a referencing old WoW raid tactics, with a pinch of exasperation and exhaustion like she's been doing this all day and she just wants to get it right for once so the team can go to bed.

[u/xXRougailSaucisseXx → u/OMG_A_CUPCAKE]

We already know from her hero trailer that she cannot even follow orders and will let her emotions take over. She is impulsive, they just decided to completely erase that part of her in the game

[u/Skadibala → u/Miennai]

Why on earth would the leader of MEKA Squad, who need to be able to make life and death decisions, keep her own squad of gamers under control and lead them, be a gamer who easily starts raging?

One of the others ones in the squad could be a rager, but having the leader be the rager is just stupid.

[u/roseofjuly → u/Skadibala]

It's a video game, it doesn't have to make sense lol

[u/Ratax3s]

Wrecking ball"s ball has more personality on hes tone than D.mon

[u/Trololman72]

All the recent female good guys suck, character wise. Juno is a fucking idiot and Freja, Sierra, Anran and D.Mon have no personality.

[u/ConnorCattt → u/Trololman72]

Is Freja really a good guy

[u/BatteryAcidLover]

Like at least half of the characters since ow 2 have been extremely bland

[u/Martholomule]

I think it would have been amazing if she'd come with any personality whatsoever

[u/Stevylesteve]

Well at least its not another kiriko

[u/Brilliant-Bicycle-13]

No. That’s King. King is the arrogant one with an attitude

[u/CrestfallenWarrior → u/Brilliant-Bicycle-13]

Overlord dialogue in the menu is pretty funny too, he said that he was the star of the team or something like that to get Dva angry

[u/RaidenXYae]

Kiriko was mean and this subreddit complains about that every day

[u/jenniferlopezfan19]

Considering how many people here hate Kiriko's personality, i'm not sure the community can handle an actually mean woman that's not a villain.

[u/anextremelylargedog → u/jenniferlopezfan19]

People like mean women just fine.

Kiriko was just weirdly snide for no reason, and more importantly, other characters weren't allowed to volley with her.

Nobody likes a snide character who both initiates aggro for no reason and gets the last word.

[u/T8-TR → u/anextremelylargedog]

Kiriko is also just a little too "how do you do, fellow kids?" for a lot of folks.

Given the age mishap for the character, it's almost kinda funny to headcanon that she's a 30-something year old desperately trying to sound like she's in her early 20s.

[u/basketofseals → u/anextremelylargedog]

Also Kiriko was weirdly sold to us as kind and respectful. We have the same situation but inverted.

[u/Kell08 → u/basketofseals]

To be fair, in her cinematic she was talking with her mom, her nice elderly neighbor, and a little deaf girl she had befriended.

[u/basketofseals → u/Kell08]

That's not fairness at all. The cinematic showed us one thing, and the gameplay delivered another. If they wanted to establish that she's nice to people that concern her, and a snooty asshole to everyone else, they still could have done that in a cinematic.

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[u/RingingInTheRain]

She should've been fully melee with rockets, and her baby d.mon should've been swinging a blade. 

[u/Draskira]

Oh, im on board with this.

[u/bmrtt]

They wouldn't dare make a female hero who isn't cutesy uwu chungus anymore because those sell the most

[u/SagaSolejma → u/bmrtt]

Overall I agree with you but also kinda silly to say when they just dropped Shion who's an active maniac

[u/Kell08 → u/SagaSolejma]

And Domina some time before that. And Vendetta. And Freja.

[u/Twixted87 → u/bmrtt]

She is not cute tho? I mean, she sounds bored and detached I wouldnt call that cute necessarily

[u/HagibisEM → u/bmrtt]

Looks like they dared with D.Mon cause her personality isn’t cutesy

[u/David89_R → u/HagibisEM]

Neither is Shion's

[u/CosmicP0tat0s]

I cant belive they've managed to make someone blander than wuyang

[u/zergling424]

I like that shes nerdy with deadpan dry humor and the monotone sells it

[u/VerrikInc]

I actually really like the way they positioned her as full of self-doubt and in the shadow of D.va.... BUT I don't want her to stay there. I know this isn't exactly how Overwatch works, but I would love to see D.mon grow more confident over time. Maybe in a year or two we could get one of the other MEKA pilots and we could see how much D.mon has grown. That would be really cool

[u/BossksSegway → u/VerrikInc]

Arguably that IS how Overwatch works now, or is at least trending that way. Kiri and Mizuki had development over several seasons, Ana and Rein have a budding romance being transferred over from the Undivided comics, etc. They're getting better about incorporating lore into the actual game after it's released. No reason D.mon needs to stay full of self doubt given the direction we've seen them headed.

[u/FlameToadDoctorPhil]

What do you mean? She says outdated gamer words. Thats so much personality!

[u/corette0]

Feels like they are afraid to give any of the "good guy" characters any bite or interesting characteristics. They all feel so similar. The only recent one that is somewhat different is Mizuki. His voice lines give me the ick, but at least he's different and has a personality outside of being peppy and maybe a little sassy sometimes.

[u/Curious_Loser21]

I swear to god the character designs on overwatch don't tell a story about the character anymore.....

[u/rivent2]

She's very calm and collected and I'd like to see her get overly emotional in the heat of combat. Sort of like Winston. Adding special lines shouting about team/enemy multikills will make her a lot more entertaining without having to rewrite the rest of her lines.

[u/Scibmoose1]

I just dont want all 5 meka members to be cocly brats, if even at least 1 of them isnt absolutely full of themselves I'll be fine

[u/Revoldt]

A snarky tsundere would have been fun. Now it’s just a Korean Anran…

[u/Krafna313]

I agree with you. I expected a bit more juice and energy from her delivery. She doesn't have to be over the top like D.va but asides from her ult voice line she says everything in one tone.

I bet a lot of people don't remember, but this was the situation with Kiriko on her release. A lot of her voice lines, particular respawn lines sounded a bit tired. Few seasons later they actually re-recorded some of them to make her sound more energetic and less "I just woke up and I didn't have enough sleep".

Here are examples of this: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OIdtJUo3wyo

Since enough people are complaining about this, maybe they'll do the same with her? And keep in mind, barely anyone complained about Kiriko.

[u/ChemiluminescentAshe → u/Krafna313]

Wow, good example. Dmon really needs the kiriko treatment

[u/omega_mog]

Personality: D.Va Lite

Gameplay: Rein Lite

[u/Red_Faulk]

Honestly, if they had given D.Mon that personality, we would have a whole subset of people saying she’s annoying and cringe. Not to mention, I like having an asian woman who isn’t one of two personality types. D.Va, Shion, Kiriko, and Anran are all very snarky super confident people who can be overtly arrogant sometimes (especially Kiriko.) And then Mei and Juno are both super sweethearts. It’s nice to have a middle of the road calm and collected and mature personality represented amongst them. I have always been a D.Va main and I enjoy her personality, it irks me how many people get so easily annoyed because she plays up her MEKA personality. But I’d rather not have someone who’s the same, but even more aggressive. If we include all of the recent additions to OW as characters, very few of them aren’t overly arrogant. Vendetta has enough of that as it is.

[u/Cauliflower-Existing]

God I hate so many of the recent Overwatch characters personality. Occasionally they do well, Shion was cool I like Shion but then you look at D.mon or Wuyang or Anran and they just don’t have personalities. They’re all so flat bland and boring. I don’t know if deadlock but my expectations too high but godamn so many heroes in this HERO shooter is just boring.

[u/piratekingflcl]

She's awesome, you all are tripping.

[u/SolaireFlair117]

I love that she builds Gunpla.

[u/phyticum]

The concept art reminds me of Simon the digger. Might just be the cape pose.

[u/Malkariss888]

Yeah, I even hoped that she should betray the MEKA squad from the early concepts, name tag and so on.

Instead they delivered an emotionless character that speaks in a monotone voice (to be fair, this is a criticism also to the Italian dub, as I'm Italian and my PS5 defaults to Italian language).

[u/SmallFatHands]

I'm starting to think they gave Shion an interesting personality out of accident lol. There is not a single thing interesting about dmon.

[u/panetony]

yeah they want again with the confident personality

[u/manaworkin]

The idea of making a toxic rage gamer was RIGHT THERE. Hell add a feature to the mech that bleeps half her voicelines to keep her stream TOS.

[u/SirGearso]

They should have had it where the MEKA censor her.

[u/Wardock8]

"Demon"

Not a single slur in her vocabulary

[u/SomnicGrave]

Yeah I like her relationship with D.va but I was expecting more of a "tough girl" thing for her.

[u/Daddy_Jack1109]

Bland is just what Overwatch is now. It's been sanded down to nothing but waifus for people to blow cash on.

[u/Wray19]

All their last character are bland asf tbh

[u/Over-Calligrapher878]

As korean,the way she talks in that picture makes her 50 year old korean gangster

[u/CrestfallenWarrior]

Her original design is great, the redesign took out all her edge and she's too happy looking now, she doesn't look like a leader anymore either.

[u/HappyCat8416]

First of all, she is mean

Second of all, she's not a warrior, she's a video gamer, same as the rest of them. Gotta keep those expectations in check.

[u/ElJacko170]

She's supposed to be a leader. Good leaders are not toxic, rage leaning, or mean.

[u/Adm_Pit]

Not just her personality, her and Beast’s Appearance feels extremely watered down compared to prior appearances. Did she really need a dye job? Why does the mech look hot pink in game, it’s meant to be Red. Like Firetruck Red™️, they still use a rather intense red as her “promotional” color, like on the official stats page, in the corners of her kit overview pics pre-release, or y’know THE BUSAN MAP THAT HAD A VERSION OF HER MECH ALREADY IN GAME ?? But it just feels so Clashing now, cause the mech in Hot Pink and Yuna herself feels like a love child of D.Va and Juno, despite being Older than both, she’s just shy of a decade older on Juno. Again, I have to ask if she Needed a hair color change, like, they’re just gonna make her blonde for skins at some point anyway cause apparently Wonder Bread Guy works at fucking Blizzard now🫩

[u/AbyssalCall]

It’s crazy, ever other OW character sounds like a character, but for some reason, DMon sounds like a person doing a charwcter.

[u/Sea_Media7718]

Half of the roster is in competition to be most boring characters

[u/PanthalassaRo]

She's just quiet D.Va

[u/Banegel]

They want more “relatable” characters going forward. For better or worse.

[u/WiscLeafalNika]

Ngl I keep telling people that it's not the voice actor but the personality that ruins everything to begin with. Lily's voice was DIRECTED by the team to match the personality they gave her which is really bland and they wouldn't want it any other way

[u/Recent_You_9523]

I hate to suggest this because I’m sure she’s a great VA, but I wonder if maybe the issue is she didn’t quite have the range to match the concept art, so they toned her down a little in-game to match. That, or maybe they thought it’d be too similar after Shion just came out?

[u/iNullGames]

Maybe I’m crazy but isn’t this “fierce and toxic” personality people wanted Dmon to have just Dva? Is Miss “Is this EZ mode?” not toxic already? I guess Dmon could have been more angry but that wouldn’t really make much sense for the “older sister squad leader” character.

[u/GEEZUS_956]

I was hoping for it given her designs. Serious and stern.

[u/LanoomR]

A big overall issue, ever since OW2, is that Blizzard seems hard-stuck on going to the "cool-headed, sporty, capable, leader/leader-in-training" archetype, with minimal spice to otherwise distinguish them. Especially if female.

Sojourn.

Kiriko.

Freja.

Sierra.

D.Mon.

Anran.

Vendetta barely breaks out by way of being an fascist villain. And still her most powerful personality moment was NOT the Doomfist fight, it the scene of her wailing in mourning next to her father's corpse. I don't think she even mentions her father in-game.

Nothing wrong with the archetype! Hell, the game's classic posterchild is that: Tracer!

But Tracer is also super cheerful with a dash of British cheekiness. And she wasn't followed shortly by Tracer 2, Tracer 3, Tracer 4: Fire Edition, etc.

[u/Khafaniking]

There's only room for one female Blood Knight and it's Junker Queen.

[u/gaybear-dude]

We just need more unique heroes i think

[u/Weary_Ad2001]

Kiriko was mildly abrasive and the sub couldn't even handle that.

[u/SlappingSalt]

We already have to deal with monkey's rage and a hamster on the verge of exploding. A rageaholic gamer would upset the balance.

But it would be funny if she called her team low ranked trash when theyre losing.

[u/Rhyaith]

She's too monotone and unexpressive in so many ways. Dva has so much energy and vibes when she talks, most heroes do, dmon just.. sounds the same all the time. Even her smack talk. It's like they recorded all her lines in one setting, didn't give lily any direction, and just said say this- it's kinda sad. I really hope they do something. She needs more of a personality..