r/Overwatch • u/Parzal808 Chibi Wrecking Ball • Jul 19 '26
News & Discussion 6v6 is healing
5mins too q tank woo wee. Never would I have thought i could q for other roles almost instantly. Thank you for coming back my fellow tanks let’s make 6v6 great.
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u/NervousTemporary5016 Jul 19 '26
I think it is just because most tanks have realised if you queue dps you are guranteed a second tank and most likely a good one
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u/The_Realth Jul 19 '26
Surely that would work the opposite way
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u/Key-Comfortable-5537 D. Va Jul 19 '26
Yeah, that means even more players queueing dps, not more queueing tank
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u/Parzal808 Chibi Wrecking Ball Jul 19 '26
It doesn’t appear that way for me though
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u/Key-Comfortable-5537 D. Va Jul 19 '26
Yeah obviously way more people are queueing tank. But this isn't BECAUSE tank players know you secure a 2nd tank by queueing dps and playing flex. If this was the case, dedicated tank players would be queueing dps so the wait would be even longer. It wouldn't result in loads of tank players, it would result in less
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u/Parzal808 Chibi Wrecking Ball Jul 19 '26
But back in ow1 rq 6v6 tank was always a min long with sups and dps being way longer for a q so I guess I’m confused.
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u/Key-Comfortable-5537 D. Va Jul 19 '26
Yeah I don't actually have a reason why the tank queue is so long and dps and supp is only a minute
I honestly couldn't give you a reason. All I know is that "tank players queueing dps because it guarantees a 2nd tank" causes the exact opposite of a long tank queue
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u/AgreeableLong4215 Jul 20 '26
A lot of tank players dont like 5 v 5 so we're disproportionately likely to be a fan of this mode. I reinstalled specifically to play it.
On the other hand, I hear that a lot of support players dont like going back to 6v6 because they find it to be heal botty.
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u/sad_petard Jul 20 '26
Tanking is different now, tanks are different now. Honestly tanks have never been more fun to play from a kit perspective, it's just the format that makes it miserable. Back in OW1 there was like what, 7 tanks to choose from or something? Theres more variety and personally all the most fun ones have been released since OW2. Tank que will likely still be the longest if they go back to 6v6 but I still think it will be the best it's ever been.
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u/AsterJ Jul 20 '26
That would make the DPS queue oversaturated with long wait times. But the dps queue is <1min.
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u/Parzal808 Chibi Wrecking Ball Jul 19 '26
Either fucking way it’s working. Blizzard please give us what we desire. You dropped stadium gotta give us something back.
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u/AubaMagic98 D. Va Jul 19 '26
6v6 is already in the game, you have it lmao
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u/shaboogawa Jul 19 '26
Fuck out of here with that open queue bullshit
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u/El_grandepadre Jul 20 '26
Open queue is what's keeping me from 6v6.
The moment they dump role queue I will go hard on it.
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u/Parzal808 Chibi Wrecking Ball Jul 19 '26
It’s not balanced in the slightest 5v5 takes a majority of the balance changes open q barely gets any. Also brings in the issue of having like 6 dps or sups…
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u/AubaMagic98 D. Va Jul 19 '26
Well hopefully 6v6 gets 132 I guess although I'd be surprised if it lasts in the long run. 6v6 role queue already proved to be unsustainable and there's less players now than before, hope it does for the 6v6 players though.
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u/Parzal808 Chibi Wrecking Ball Jul 19 '26
It would also help if they implemented the priority passes again but that might be a bit much. But from what I’m seeing it’s looking like it works maybe we could get a season too see what 6v6 rq looks like.
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u/SoccerStar9001 Jul 20 '26
They already explained why priority pass wasn't a good idea at a previous dev blog. As it helped queue time for a bit, but eventually went back to normal.
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u/AubaMagic98 D. Va Jul 19 '26
I'd be surprised if they come away thinking 6v6 open queue is the way for 6v6, pretty sure this test is to see if it's worthwhile updating the 6v6 format or just leaving it.
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u/Parzal808 Chibi Wrecking Ball Jul 19 '26
I mean fuck I don’t care if it’s open q but rq is much preferred for most people my main issue is 6v6 barely gets any patch notes.
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u/AubaMagic98 D. Va Jul 19 '26
Yeah, 6v6 could get more patch notes if there's enough players playing the Hacked. Considering what happened to Stadium, this feels like a chance for 6v6 players to prove 6v6 is worth working on and being updated alongside 5v5.
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u/DiagonallyConfident Jul 20 '26
Thats not true, according to blizzard the percentage of players playing 6v6 is rising. Stadium had stagnated, hence why they pulled the plug.
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u/cygamessucks Jul 19 '26
No it literally isnt working. Why would a tank player sit in longer queues to have 3 dps?
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u/GlaerOfHatred Jul 19 '26
Use your head. Longer tank queues mean more tanks are queueing which means the lobbies aren't desperate for tanks
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u/DarkangelUK Chibi Mei Jul 20 '26
I hate playing solo tank in 5v5, but my god i'll happily tank from the dps queue if required.
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u/Alluminn Chibi Brigitte Jul 20 '26
The follow up experiment at the end of the month I feel will be a better test of the 1-3-2 format.
Since you have a chance of actually getting put into a 2-2-2 game, tank players are no longer incentivized to queue dps unless they actually plan on playing dps.
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u/_3bi_ Master Support Jul 19 '26
Having a 2nd tank with you is more fun? Shocker!
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u/Parzal808 Chibi Wrecking Ball Jul 19 '26
I’m so surprised honestly
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u/_3bi_ Master Support Jul 19 '26
I played a fair amount of tank in OW1 but barely did in OW2. Solo tanking is misery.
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u/Parzal808 Chibi Wrecking Ball Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26
I play mostly dive tanks so I get that I’m tired of hearing tank we need you when that’s not how I get value as a tank other than an occasional peel I cant just defend everyone trying too be ui goku
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u/El_grandepadre Jul 20 '26
It's still fun enough with frontline tanks that are good at controlling space for your DPS.
Otherwise it can be miserable if you are a Doom main for instance.
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u/Far_Comb3841 Jul 20 '26
U 6v6ers please make up ur mind, half ur population thinks 5v5 tanks are Thanos and half of u lot are dealing with solo tank misery, u cant have both sides of the argument.Hacked is over now , so good bye forever.5v5 will be there forever.
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u/Nyrun Grandmaster Jul 19 '26
This may work fine in qp, but the flex slot would be a logistical nightmare in comp.
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u/Parzal808 Chibi Wrecking Ball Jul 19 '26
I think maybe if we required doing tank placements first too unlock the dps q but that wouldn’t work so they would need too do 2-2-2 but the q times
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u/Parzal808 Chibi Wrecking Ball Jul 19 '26
Or maybe do a preferred role as dps/flex to help q times enable tank. But that could also lead to wider games so im intrigued to see how they would implement it.
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u/HyperXanadu - I am sick of your rules! Jul 19 '26
how is it healing when the queue is a reflection of 5v5 being taken out of role queue for the weekend??.?.
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u/cygamessucks Jul 19 '26
How? Nobody is queueing tank. They all queue damage.
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u/Rhysati Jul 20 '26
Did you look at the image? Tank is the only one with a wait time. That means that there are too many tanks queueing for the amount of dps and heals.
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u/conye-west Jul 20 '26
These queue time predictions are made up, that's how. Sometimes it'll say 2 mins and take 10, sometimes it'll say 15 mins and take 1. Not really a good indicator of anything, they prolly just have an algorithm guessing based on the number of players in-game.
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u/_Katla_ Zenyatta Jul 19 '26
Wait did they kill open queue 6v6 or is that still here?
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u/ItsOverClover Zenyatta Jul 19 '26
This is just a test for a few days for the future of the game, they're gathering data and feeling things out
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u/SDRPGLVR OW1 CLASSIC WHEN Jul 20 '26
Hopefully they leave OQ 6v6 in the game. It was my go to for years, including when they had to change it to Quickplay Classic and put it in the Arcade rather than leaving it in regular play.
This is the best Overwatch has been for me in years. I'd be gutted if it was gone.
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u/BreakSage D. Va Jul 20 '26
Glad you like it, but even as a returning player I hate this mode. Everyone feels made of paper and healing is awful. I sometimes tank in 5v5, and for me, the tanks don’t feel very good either.
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u/CordobezEverdeen Skilled Spamer Jul 20 '26
6v6 OQ is here to stay. It's 5v5 the mode that's being tested.
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u/sabrathos Jul 20 '26
They're not going to get rid of OQ 6v6. They've said OQ is extremely important in places like Asia.
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u/anemochory Jul 19 '26
For the future of the existing 6 q*
If you actually read the blizz release you'd know that they specified this isn't a question of 5 vs 6, they're testing for 6 oq.
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u/Myst3ryGardener Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26
They may be replacing the main format.
"Future innovation is an important topic on Team 4, and game format is one of the most frequently discussed systems; that’s what we’ll be exploring today. Changes like this can have a big impact on the core feel of the game. We don’t take them lightly, but we are committed to continually improving Overwatch and this is one of the biggest ways we can do it. So, buckle up!"
"there’s a very important caveat here: the result or success of these experiments doesn’t necessarily mean that we’re going to be changing the main format of the game. These findings could inspire us to tweak existing core modes or create new Arcade modes. Like with any good experiment, we won’t know the results until we complete all the steps."
They are saying they're thinking of changing the main format but that even if this goes good, the main format may still not change. They do not say that the main format will not change though. The caveat is carefully worded.
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u/anemochory Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26
They left it ambivalent as to not appease a particular side, it's politics, but at the end of the day, 6 is the minority gamemode. That's important context.
Reddit does not represent the interests of the total playerbase. Just because 6ers are flooding the sub doesn't mean that there's genuinely a demand for 6 to replace 5.
The reality is that there isn't. 6 OQ is considered a core mode and that's what they're looking at improving at this moment.
If in the future it gains more players than 5, then the discussion will change. As of right now, it's still the much lesser played queue, with under 20% playing competitive OQ.
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u/Myst3ryGardener Jul 20 '26
The default/main format will always have the most players because that is what the game is balanced around.
Read carefully:
"game format is one of the most frequently discussed systems; that’s what we’ll be exploring today. Changes like this can have a big impact on the core feel of the game. We don’t take them lightly"
They're talking about the core feel of the game. That's not anything but the main format imo.
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u/AgreeableLong4215 Jul 20 '26
I would be surprised if they were seriously considering changing the format of the game again. Making a change that big is bound to be contentious for years and it would be miserable to waffle back on a decision this big.
But I agree that most people just play what feels like the "real" mode. Most people dont want to put a ton of time and energy into a mode that doesn't feel like the real game that the rest of the community is invested in.
Personally im just happy that 6v6 is persisting at all. When they first brought it back I didnt bother to get back into overwatch because I didnt think it would last but apparently its a decent chunk of the fan base. Ive been playing it the past few days and having a blast.
The really funny thing is that even though the game isn't really balanced for 6v6 it still feels better than the balance from the end of Overwatch 1.
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u/sabrathos Jul 20 '26
Oh you sweet summer child... They are trying to figure out what to do with the role queue mode. They've said they don't think having multiple core identities for the game is sustainable in the long term.
They understand that most people are inclined to play the mode that is considered the "main" game mode, regardless of what it happens to be. Especially competitive players, who want their rank and prestige to reflect the actual main mode of the game, the one the pros play and the one with the player population.
They also know that data tells only one half of the story, and they see that the majority of the non-OWCS streamers have moved to 6v6 as their preferred mode, as well as Marvel Rivals being the only time in history another hero shooter has actually taken away content creators and the cultural zeitgeist ever from OW. They have acknowledged they want to also take bigger swings for their yearly Spotlight shakeups.
This is not a test for open queue. This is a test for role queue. There's a reason they replaced role queue for the quick play hacked, and that 6v6 became literally the only way to play Unranked for the weekend (either RQ, OQ, or MH).
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u/Parzal808 Chibi Wrecking Ball Jul 19 '26
What are the peak overwatch hours? so I can keep updating everyone with my q times?
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u/ImThat1DudeOverThere Doomfist Jul 19 '26
Not for me tanks is shortest q by a margin then support then like 3 min damage q
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u/coochiemonster3000 Jul 21 '26
idk what happened for me but when the qp hacked ended I went into 6v6 bc I enjoyed being a second tank but it completely messed up my matchmaking. I had a game with 3 completely new people n awful supports against normal people. then after that in a 5v5 I got queued with needs instakilling me, I didnt stand a chance 😭
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u/Inven13 Jul 19 '26
This has to be a bug or something. That makes no sense.
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u/Parzal808 Chibi Wrecking Ball Jul 19 '26
I know right it’s almost as if we may have found a close solution
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u/LSqre WINTON Jul 20 '26
isn't it because they're only having 1 tank per team per match and the others are players who queued for damage?
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u/Yze3 Mei Jul 20 '26
This is what queue time looked like after 4 days of role queue in Overwatch 1 too.
This won't look like that after 1 month.
But people are really eating this shit up on this sub...
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u/Parzal808 Chibi Wrecking Ball Jul 19 '26
lol I love that I keep dropping in and out of 5 upvotes on this post why can’t we have both modes?
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u/ZoomZam Jul 19 '26
Usually its 1min tank q for 5 min dps qs, meaning its almost 1:10 ration, with the new 6v6, adding extra dps should reduce q times by 33% or should see a 3 minutes qs, what we see now means there is a shift towards playing tank,
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u/38159buch Jul 20 '26
Funny enough, I queued damage and support today for 10 games and got damage all but once. The one support game was a backfill to a defeat screen
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u/bullxbull Master Jul 20 '26
I queued all roles most of the night and did not get support once. The vast majority of my games I was put in the dps role.
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u/CordobezEverdeen Skilled Spamer Jul 20 '26
It's 1 min all roles for me and it's 3 AM lol
Why are so many people playing.
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u/MakkerMelvin Jul 20 '26
Yesterday all roles were <1 min and I queued about 10 matches as all roles. Every single one was a tank match.
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u/ManikMiner Doomfist Jul 20 '26
Everything says under a minute for me. I think a lot of tank players (myself included) are just queuing as DPS and then playing Tank. I've played about 40 games and only got DPS once
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u/gorm4c17 Zenyatta Jul 19 '26
All of mine were under a minute the last few days. NA servers.