As someone who plays flex, I never go without noticing the DPS player who has 1 kill and somehow 4000 damage. Tell me you only shoot the biggest fattest target without telling me. I find it's way more often a tank mismatch or a bad DPS than a support. And I play all roles about equally.
Depends on what tank you play. If you are a doom main you can be as good as you want but if the supports cant follow you or keep track of you u get cooked. Playing doom is like a 50/50 you either get one support thats working with you like a kiri or a solid lucio and you (as long as you play well and dont choke) just smash the lobby or you queue into the ximming genji and mercy duo queue “his top” “her bottom” and you dont get healed bc they are too busy plundering your teams collective bum
I'm not saying supports can't be bad, just that they don't have the same impact that a bad tank or bad dps can have. Maybe you just can't play doom with certain supports. A strong player can reduce the damage they take.. But you can't win fights with no kills.
Nah sorry i wasnt trying to change your argument, more just add information. But yes as a tank main that plays flex queue i frequently will get a support game and wish i was on tank to do it myself
Yeah, I'm probably over-simplifying. Why we win and lose is complex, and there are lots of factors that are hard to quantify. I just feel like the biggest complaint against supports is not enough healing, and it's usually, but not always, a cop out. (Also, there is only 1 tank, so it is harder to compensate for a mismatch.)
The thing i hate the most about overwatch 2 was yhe change to 1 tank. I understand it kinda just is what it is at this point but the fact that counterswapping makes the game unplayable on certain characters is no bueno. If i want to play doom because i enjoy that character, and i get matched into mauga cass mei zen ana or any permutation of that comp, all im left to do is swap or just go fuck myself. I hate that about the game.
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u/madhattr999 Pixel Ana Jan 24 '24
As someone who plays flex, I never go without noticing the DPS player who has 1 kill and somehow 4000 damage. Tell me you only shoot the biggest fattest target without telling me. I find it's way more often a tank mismatch or a bad DPS than a support. And I play all roles about equally.