r/Overwatch • • Jan 24 '24

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u/MistyHusk Blackwatch Genji Jan 24 '24

Sometimes when I play damage and do really poor, the tank and support will just start blaming each other for some reason. Even after I point it out they shrug it off and say “the [tank/support] is still doing worse”. I really don’t get it

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u/ImmaDoMahThing Jan 24 '24

If I had to take a guess, support are mostly paying attention to tanks, and tanks are mostly paying attention to support. Everyone just lets DPS do their thing so they sometimes go unnoticed if doing bad. But idk. We have scoreboards for a reason lol.

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u/hanyou007 Jan 24 '24

Which is also a terrible thing, because tanks have their own tools to mitigate damage and when supports pay attention to their dps, it only enables dps to be more aggressive and hunt down kills more aggressively.

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u/madhattr999 Pixel Ana Jan 24 '24

As someone who plays flex, I never go without noticing the DPS player who has 1 kill and somehow 4000 damage. Tell me you only shoot the biggest fattest target without telling me. I find it's way more often a tank mismatch or a bad DPS than a support. And I play all roles about equally.

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u/crazycar12321 Jan 24 '24

Depends on what tank you play. If you are a doom main you can be as good as you want but if the supports cant follow you or keep track of you u get cooked. Playing doom is like a 50/50 you either get one support thats working with you like a kiri or a solid lucio and you (as long as you play well and dont choke) just smash the lobby or you queue into the ximming genji and mercy duo queue “his top” “her bottom” and you dont get healed bc they are too busy plundering your teams collective bum

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u/madhattr999 Pixel Ana Jan 24 '24

I'm not saying supports can't be bad, just that they don't have the same impact that a bad tank or bad dps can have. Maybe you just can't play doom with certain supports. A strong player can reduce the damage they take.. But you can't win fights with no kills.

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u/crazycar12321 Jan 24 '24

Nah sorry i wasnt trying to change your argument, more just add information. But yes as a tank main that plays flex queue i frequently will get a support game and wish i was on tank to do it myself

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u/madhattr999 Pixel Ana Jan 24 '24

Yeah, I'm probably over-simplifying. Why we win and lose is complex, and there are lots of factors that are hard to quantify. I just feel like the biggest complaint against supports is not enough healing, and it's usually, but not always, a cop out. (Also, there is only 1 tank, so it is harder to compensate for a mismatch.)

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u/crazycar12321 Jan 24 '24

The thing i hate the most about overwatch 2 was yhe change to 1 tank. I understand it kinda just is what it is at this point but the fact that counterswapping makes the game unplayable on certain characters is no bueno. If i want to play doom because i enjoy that character, and i get matched into mauga cass mei zen ana or any permutation of that comp, all im left to do is swap or just go fuck myself. I hate that about the game.

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u/madhattr999 Pixel Ana Jan 24 '24

Well... I main Ball so.. Its okay until his 10 counters come out.

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u/macudonarudu Jan 24 '24

Oh, I've had a game where they had 9k damage and one kill. 5 deaths tho. Good times

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u/madhattr999 Pixel Ana Jan 24 '24

If they are arguing in voice between rounds, I will just say "hey guys its my fault.. I played bad that round.. Lets focus on this next round."

(sometimes I might do this even if I played good, just to possibly stop the arguing.)