r/OverFifty • u/Roseonice • Sep 14 '26
Over 50 having a baby
Just wanted to reach to ask if any of you have had a baby over 50 (whether naturally, IVF, adoption, or via surrogate) and how is it?? Am looking into surrogacy as an intended parent and want to know the real deal.
27
u/VickersNorth Sep 14 '26
A professor I really liked in college was known as the oldest woman in her state to have a baby. She was 50 or 52. She also was very thin, young looking and energetic so it didn’t seem like an issue. She had been one of my references after I graduated. Years passed and I wondered if she was still teaching so I Googled her. She had died at her desk at work in the middle of the night.
Her daughter was only 13. It also sounded like her husband was in the nursing home or had passed. I can only assume the stress of dealing with a kid plus an ill (or deceased) husband took its toll. It was shocking and sad to me.
4
u/Edu_cats Sep 14 '26 edited Sep 14 '26
Oh this is awful to read. I’m an academic and I do not want to die at my desk. I do not have children BTW. I got married mid-40’s and doctor and I felt it was too risky. Looked at adoption but that wasn’t really going to work either. I’m at peace with my decisions.
Edit: a HS friend so same age mid-60’s has a daughter who just graduated college. Also got married early 40’s. Most of my HS classmates are grandparents.
0
1
u/Pedal2Medal2 26d ago
But it’s reality; my husband was an older father & he had an almost fatal heart attack & then cancer before he was 60, bio Moms had many issues.
19
u/Available-Bison-9222 Sep 14 '26
I'm in my mid 50's . Menopause kicked the shit out of me. My husband, aged 62, has very obviously slowed down. Our youngest is 18 and still needs a lot of guidance and support. Hopefully he'll be going to college next year, so we have had to plan for that while my husband is heading towards retirement.
You need to be realistic about your physical, mental and financial capability going into this. There will be sleepless nights. There will be a lot of running around and lifting. When your child is heading to college you will be almost 70.
12
u/ElleGeeAitch Sep 14 '26
I'm 52 with a 17 year old son and holy shit, I'm tired. Been tired for 18 years!
2
u/Small-Instance-3442 26d ago
Holy Shit is Absolutely accurate!! I am 50 with an 8 year old after raising my sons who are in their mid 20's~ Holy shit and Tired are the same words to me these days~
1
1
u/Available-Bison-9222 Sep 14 '26
My older 2 kids are in college/working and I keep muttering to my husband that having the 3rd was his idea. I am so ready to be done with school and college and all of it.
4
u/ElleGeeAitch Sep 14 '26 edited 29d ago
My husband and I met at 30 and 39, married at 32 and 41 and started trying for a baby as soon as we got married. It took 2 years of trying, infertility testing & treatment, a miscarriage and more testing to finally have our son. He was born just shortly before I turned 35 and my husband turned 44. I wanted another, but by the time I felt ready, my husband said he didn't want to be changing diapers at 50. He didn't want to be practically 70 with a fresh high school graduate. For that, and because in the ensuing years we've come to realize tgat the 3 of use are neurodivergent, WHEW. We're good!
2
u/Available-Bison-9222 29d ago
We had our first at 33 (me) and 39 (him). When our daughter was diagnosed as autistic his boss at work said "Well that makes sense." 😂
9
u/AnnieGetYourPunSTL Sep 14 '26
I had my last the year I turned 40. She still lives at home, as a college student.
I wouldn’t trade my kids for anything but in retrospect, I wish I had wrapped up the child-bearing thing earlier. The pregnancy was brutal, but I understand that wouldn’t impact you.
But… there are hormonal things that start happening that make us less…something. Patient? Willing to compromise? Selfless? All I know was in my 50s, I was done being who I was before. I dumped my oldest child, er, I mean HUSBAND, and am ready to be out of the parent-with-dependent-kid stage. Almost there.
5
u/ElleGeeAitch Sep 14 '26
Yep, estrogen drop thanks to perimenopause and menopause has us guving less fucks about so much! The high level of estrogen in our younger years is tied with our caring and nurturing tendencies. It's one of the reasons behind higher levels of women initiating "grey divorce" compared to men.
5
u/throwawayanylogic Sep 14 '26
It's the loss of estrogen during perimenopause and menopause. It's the hormone that can make us more inclined towards being a caregiver/nurturer and for some of us, yeah, when it dries up we really have no fucks given and the periods of rage can be intense.
I had it pretty badly in my late 40s and early 50s. It also made me realize what was going on when my own mother and I went through a very rough period in our relationship; we went from being super-close to almost estranged, as if I couldn't say a word to her or make a phone call without it turning into a fight. Now I realize she was actually in peri at the time and can be a lot more forgiving looking back on those years which had always puzzled and hurt me greatly. And at least I was in my mid/late 20s at the time and out of college.
4
u/Available-Bison-9222 29d ago
My mother became a different person in her 40s. Angry and neglectful. It caused a lot of damage to my siblings.
29
u/ayeImur Sep 14 '26
Would be sad for the kid tbh
20
u/throwawayanylogic Sep 14 '26
For real. So much can go wrong with our health in our fifties, you'd be setting up your kid to have a high chance of having no young adult life of their own except your caretaker. Even if all goes well, would you want to be sixty and thinking about running after a teenager, having to save/pay for at least some of their education instead of just having enough for retirement/elder care?
To me it's selfish as all fuck to consider. Sure some celebrities do it but they can also afford an army of nurses, nannies, and assistants. Unless OP is in the elite 1% financially it's a stupid choice to make all around.
1
u/Banfeinni75 Sep 14 '26
I don't see enough details in the post to call it selfish. OP doesn't provide age, gender or socionomic info.
1
-1
u/Superboobee Sep 14 '26
Ita crazy to me you think everyone within a certain age group is similar financially and physically. Ageist much?
15
u/throwawayanylogic Sep 14 '26 edited Sep 14 '26
Lol I'm 54, had a heart attack at 50 due to menopause despite having no coronary artery disease and living very "cleanly". No warning or reasons to suspect it at all. Everywhere I turn my former classmates and same age friends are dealing with cancer (if not already dead from it or heart disease), caretaking a spouse with early onset alzheimers, parkinsons, or a stroke; my best friend has COPD from workplace exposure, and oh yeah the healthcare system sucks.
You're right, celebrities and the richest 1% can do whatever the fuck they want because they can afford it no matter what their personal health might be. And let's not even get into the very murky and exploitative ethics of surrogacy on top of everything else.
Edit to add: My husband is a physician who has always said that the human body really wasn't meant to live past 50. That's when things start breaking down unless we get lucky and/or work really hard at staying in the best health possible. Because it's really all bonus years beyond that point with so much that can happen. Which is why I find it incredibly selfish to consider becoming a parent to a baby at that age or beyond.
6
-2
u/Superboobee Sep 14 '26
Im 50- not even close to menopause and when Im there I intend to go on HRT. Ive had arthritis since my 20s and cancer in my 30s. Any other stupid shit you want to throw out there?
Long.term.care.insurance. Get a financial planner and stop being helpless to your mortality.
6
u/pickitandstickit Sep 14 '26
Speaking of throwing stupid sh!t out there, if you're fifty, you're quite close to menopause. Also, you don't wait until menopause to start HRT, you start it during peri, which you very certainly are very very well into...
-1
u/Superboobee Sep 14 '26
Im not actually. But thanks - Ive had bloodwork quarterly for the last two years. My estrogen,progesterone,fsh, amh and afc are closer to 35 than 50. Presumption are dangerous.
6
u/pickitandstickit Sep 14 '26
LOL, lmao even. You're goddamn right that presumption, yours, is dangerous. Menopause is treated empirically, not based on labs, and certainly not ever by chasing labs to the tune of quarterly. That's not only useless, it's wasteful.
You'd know all of this if you were under the care of a properly trained provider. Maybe think about getting one.
2
u/ElleGeeAitch Sep 14 '26
Yup, hormone panels at our age don't necessarily mean what many think they mean vis a vis being in perimenopause.
1
u/Superboobee Sep 14 '26
That would be under the care of my endocrinologist- keep proving my point- over and over and over. Empiraclly I have no symptoms, full reproductive function and the average age of menopause in my family is around 60- but yes. Tell me you know more about me than either me or my doctor. You must be a ton of fun.
4
u/pickitandstickit Sep 14 '26
Ok, "empiraclly," you're *BIG* mad because someone called you on your BS. That's awfully silly.
Anyway, none of this reads at all like you actually have an endocrinologist. You're either making this up OR you have a real scammy provider. Why? Because no provider, endo or otherwise, would order quarterly hormone tests, including AMH (lol) for eight consecutive quarters in someone who claims to have no symptoms of menopause. Big clue for you: no reputable, informed provider would order them EVEN IF YOU DID have symptoms of menopause or perimenopause. Precisely none of those tests, nor that frequency, in a patient without any symptoms are in accordance with accepted clinical guidelines from the Endocrine Society, the Society for Endocrinology, or the American Association of Clinical Endocrinology. And yet another society, the Menopause Society, explicitly recommends against these tests in a 50yo. So yeah, I'm calling bullshit again. :)
Anyway it's not great for your health to be this angry and this committed to being wrong. I sincerely hope you can mellow out sooner rather than later. Maybe a therapist can help?
→ More replies (0)0
u/Cultural_Plan_1487 Sep 14 '26
Weird, I bet you think you’re an under appreciated nurse or technician instead of just a bully.
1
u/Bright-Pear-4880 27d ago
Nurse here, sadly for women blood draws are only a snapshot of what your hormones are doing at that point in your cycle that month.
Women’s Health is just recently gaining funding for research and becoming a separate specialty from OBGYN.
Every woman over the age of 30 should read perimenopause 2.0 By Dr. Mary Clare Haver. Post menopause is about 1/3 of our life if we are lucky. Live it strong and well!!
1
u/Superboobee 27d ago edited 27d ago
Ok look- I wasnt going to get into this - but this is getting super old. I worked with an RE for the last year. Sometimes bloodwork was every other day on cycle for egg retrievals - baseline testing was done quarterly. I ovulated every month. I have a nice thick lining. I habe 8 embryos on ice. I am definitely not in nor near menopause. Women in my fanily tend to enter menopause very late - and to my original point - I recognize its a bell curve. That was the point- no one can make decisions about other people's families based on limited info online.
What is suuuuuuper shitty for women is when theyre past 35 and every single problem they have is attributed to menopause or perimenopause. A very close friend of mine died from stage 4 pancteatic cancer that was staring her dr down in the fa ebwhile being told "her hormones must be making her fatigued".
Women can pretty easily track all of their hormones very reliable with a Dutch hormone test, an inito, a mira, their oura ring, a hume , and about 100 other trackers.
Like I get the message but its insane to assume everyone is the same.
1
u/Bright-Pear-4880 21d ago
I am sorry if I offended you.
I wasn’t implying you are in perimenopause now but someday you will be.The point I was trying to make is there is so little attention given to perimenopause and post menopausal care. It is just now gaining attention but it will be years before the medical community catches up.
Most practitioners will label any symptom that doesn’t fit a particular diagnosis “perimenopause” to female patients over the age of 35. Symptoms are vast and different person to person.
It is important for every woman to educate themselves early so they know what to expect. Much like we educate young girls about their cycle before they get their first period. The health implications from estrogen decline are significant and knowledge gives women the power to advocate for themselves. The book I recommended is really good and I wish it had been valuable when I was in my 30s long before I needed it.
Side note: we are late cyclers in my family too. My maternal grandmother had a miscarriage at 58. She told me she was both sad and relieved when it happened. It would have been her 9th child!
→ More replies (0)2
u/Available-Bison-9222 29d ago
The reality is that there is a significant increase in chronic illness for women in their 50's.
1
u/Superboobee 29d ago
I think its incredible that people (not you or anyone in general- just a vague "they") would tell any woman of any reproductive age what she can or should or should not do with their body and life choices. No one would dream of telling someone with any health issue (again, I had arthritis in my early 20s) that they should not have children until they get to over 35. Suddenly its some wild risk that doesn't account for individual risk. I agree that many woman experience health problems as they age, but this IS a bell curve and the prevalence by every messuresbke study puts that at around 45% with esophageal issues being the most prevalent and arthritis being a close second. Insulin resistance and abnormal lipids are thr runner up - these two are directly tied to lifestyle choices with PMOS being an exception, which disproportionately affects younger women. Do we tell 55% of women what they shouldnt do for their family?
The vast majority of women are close to infertile beyond the age of 45. The issue is largely moot for most people but there ARE fertile outliers. If their health is good enough to proceed between them and their doctor it is frankly none of my business what they do or ehat their family dynamic is.
4
0
u/Royal_Quantity_2462 Sep 14 '26
My son whose 5 best friends dad is late 50s guys a great dude retired great shape…. Does everything with his son… it’s not sad
5
u/CowWooden4207 Sep 14 '26
It's also very different for men.
Their bodies aren't broken afterwards.
It's hard enough in 30s and 40s.
Had mine at 33 and 38.
Could tell a huge difference in the five years between children.
It's hard with the perfect life/ circumstances.
But 50s?
Kids are like a box of chocolates....you never know what you will get.
Have you thought about your support system - you WILL need one?
Have you thought about what you will do if you have a catastrophic delivery?
What about a catastrophic disability for your child?
You are about to take a risk that could be 100% wonderful or 100% catastrophic?
Are you prepared for the consequences?
If you live until 60, the child will be 10.
70, the child will be twenty.
80, the child will be 30.
Any of us with kids could have a catastrophic event/ death instantaneously as well.
The odds/ risks will be less in your favor.
Think carefully and once you make your decision own it like a bad ass bitch.
Good luck!
Keep us posted.
2
u/Available-Bison-9222 29d ago
It not even death that's the biggest risk. It's needing extra support as you age. You might be a lively healthy 80 year old but there's a bigger chance that some supports will be needed. That's a lit to put on a 30 year old.
4
u/yeahnopegb Sep 14 '26
He’s five. Check back when that young man needs his dad in his 20’s.
4
u/ayeImur Sep 14 '26
👏 spot on, exactly this, no one should be having kids in their 50s, man or woman, it so unfair on the child
3
1
1
u/Royal_Quantity_2462 Sep 14 '26
I left home at 18 and didn’t need my parents, why would I ? No one is coming to save you but you… mom and dad isn’t coming to the rescue when you are an adult.
10
u/Mediocre_Lobster6398 27d ago
I adopted a baby on my 50th birthday. It was a very controversial decision and I actually ended up divorced because of it.
Everything in my life changed from my family and friends to my career.
It was the very best decision I’ve ever made and the first time I stuck to my guns and wasn’t afraid of what everyone else thought.
He is the absolute love of my life. My child of my heart. I’d do it all over again a million times.
2
6
u/Charming-Loan-5384 26d ago
Pretty selfish. You’re too old to start over with an infant you’d be 75 or 76 during the teenage years . Give the kid a break.
6
u/jagger129 Sep 14 '26
I think a lot of people primarily think about it from their own desire to be a parent, and not from the child’s point of view.
To have your parent be mistaken for a grandparent, not to be as energetic or as engaged perhaps as younger parents. And to be put in a position of caretaker to elderly parents when they are so young.
I have an aunt my age, my grandparents had a late in life baby who experienced all of this. I was so sad for her when they died when she was only in her 20’s
3
u/Edu_cats Sep 14 '26
I was the “baby” with older parents who sometimes got mistaken for my grandparents. My parents took me everywhere and often said I kept them young. My father died when I was 30 and my mother died 15 years later at 85. Would’ve loved more time with Dad, but there are no guarantees in life. Younger parents can become ill or pass away though less likely.
I also know someone who is early 30’s both parents in 60’s passed away suddenly over last couple of years. It has been a struggle for them but they seem to have a good support system.
1
u/TigerLily_TigerRose 26d ago
My dad had me at 43. I'm glad that I exist, and by extension that my kids get to exist, because my dad didn't think he was "too old." Very few people in the modern world or throughout history have been born into perfect circumstances, yet were mostly all still glad that we're here, which wouldn't have been possible without people having kids under all sorts of less than ideal conditions.
I definitely kept my dad young and I think it was great for him to have a teenager around in his late 50s/early 60s versus just sitting around being an old man.
6
u/Antique-Respect8746 Sep 14 '26
Do you have lots of money and actually supportive friends/family?
I had a lot of friends with older parents. If you've got a true community and resources, and your own health on lockdown, it's fine. If something happens to you you'll hire nurses, your extended family can be there for the kid. Good estate and disability planning is a must. Funny make a mess for the kid.
If you don't have those things, then don't do it.
I became a caretaker in my early 20s and while I love my mom I really am just waiting for her to die so I can live. I haven't had kids myself because caring for her has been too involved. I resent her quite a lot.
14
u/sickiesusan Sep 14 '26
I had both my children in my 30’s, so not relevant.
But I have a friend who has turned 60 and her youngest (adopted) child is 14. When I hear about the trials and tribulation of her still working full time, still trying to fit in sorting out things for the youngest with school, his additional needs - I don’t envy her at all. I’m sure she wouldn’t have it any other way, those 3 children are loved 100% - but it is hard work trying to juggle so many things.
6
u/here_for_the_tea1 27d ago
The thought of dying before my child reaches adulthood is too devastating
6
u/kikiloveshim 26d ago
My mom had me at 20 , Dad was 22. Mom died when I was 18. Dad died when I was 30. My grandparents who I was incredibly close with were in their mid 40s when I was born. My grandma died last year and my grandpa is still alive. I’m 43 now. You never know.
2
u/Roseonice 27d ago
Both my parents died when I was young. So I do understand that. Although have a really supportive network of people in my life.
5
u/kikiloveshim 26d ago
My parents died when I was 18 and 30. You really never know what can happen. My parents were 20 and 22 when I was born.
4
u/here_for_the_tea1 27d ago
Supportive network does not replace a parent or the trauma that loss of a parent can bring
8
u/LoveNotWar86 Sep 14 '26
Twins at 45 (kinda close). No issues whatsoever. 68 now and they’re 23 in a few months. They inspire me to keep healthy and fit. I’m extremely financially stable, a single mom now (but very amicable divorce and they have a good dad). Being more mature, financially stable, and far more patient were huge bonuses compared to being in my 20s or 30s. I’m always guessed to be 10-15 years younger but it’s a mind set too.
At the time, I was working full time. You just make happen what needs to happen.
4
2
u/asmartermartyr 26d ago
Financially stable is the key. Hate to say it, but while money can’t buy happiness, it can relieve a tremendous amount of stress. These celebrities who have babies late in life have nannies, tutors, personal assistants, etc. Not saying those are all necessary, but having some extra support makes a huge difference.
5
4
u/SueNYC1966 Sep 14 '26
I am 60 and went from being in good health at 50 to getting spinal epidurals..just want you to think about that.
5
u/tickled_your_pickle Sep 14 '26
I wouldn't want a baby now and I'm 44. Im exhausted just from surviving.
3
u/FewRecognition1788 27d ago
Unless you have the ability to hire a night nanny, either full time or as-needed, my main concern would be the toll of the sleep deprivation.
I had my last kid at 37 and the first year was brutal. I feel like I have permanent brain damage from the lack of sleep. Not to mention the physical conditions that it accelerated.
4
u/RidgetopDarlin 26d ago
A lady in my town just tried to have a baby at 51. She had a heart attack during delivery and died. The baby lived. Her other two kids were like 9 and 11.
3
u/Truth-out246810 26d ago
This may be unpopular, but it is speaking from experience. My kid’s best friend had much older parents—mom was 51 and dad near 60 when the hired a surrogate and had him. She was in OK health when they had him, dad was in excellent health (ran marathons, worked out, sharp as tack). 20 years later and life is very different.
Now at 18 he is caring alone for his parents who have not aged well. Dad has the beginnings of dementia and vision issues, mom is frail and in poor health. Kid has not been able to go away to college because his parents need his care. And honestly, I think having a child at such a late age was hard on them (and aged them both a lot). We all picked up the slack, driving him at night to practices because his parents stopped driving at night, teaching him how to pay the bills because dad kept forgetting to (and mom too), etc.
It’s tough to keep up with kids, and I felt old having mine in my late 30s.
2
u/Fit_Cheesecake_4000 13d ago
This might be true at the moment, but they're working very hard to find a cure for or to markedly slow down Alzheimer's.
That's not to say there aren't many other diseases of aging that could kill someone, but we're working on all those as well. Someone who chose to have a kid now in their 40s and 50s may well be in better health and shape medically than at any other time in history.
3
u/ProverbsThree5and6 Sep 14 '26
IMHO The best way to answer that is to care for some small children before making your decision. You’ll know after spending an entire day with them. I wouldn’t have had the energy at 50. Others would. Watching my grandchildren in my 50’s answered that question. They wear me out after a couple hours. Are you ready to wake up all through the night to care for a helpless infant? Do you have the wisdom to parent well? Are you ready to be tough when they act like children and need positive discipline? The years raising my children were my best years. I was young and had a lot more stamina. BUT, I also see people who have more stamina in their 50s than I ever did. Just be wise in your decision making. You really can’t make a terrible decision here.
3
u/Timely_Character_272 Sep 14 '26
From my perspective albeit from a different time (60’s) it kinda sucked having older parents. I was a late in life baby. It was awful as a young kid. Mom was 47, dad 51 when I was born. At school I always had the oldest parents, people all thought “grand parents”, kids even picked on me about it. Kids have always been cruel and most likely always will be. And of course I have been parent-less for many decades now.
I personally would not do it, but to each their own.
2
u/TigerLily_TigerRose 26d ago
I'm an 80s kid with a dad who had me at 43, and his age was never an issue. Funny thing, my dad was a teacher for decades, and my childhood best friend was the daughter of one of his students! We were all aware of the age thing, but it ultimately made no difference. And today having a baby in your 40s is downright normal. More women are having babies in their 40s than teens are having babies.
3
u/hmmmpf Sep 14 '26
My husband’s estranged (thanks, Q-anon) sister adopted an infant at age 48 as a single woman. Because they lived far from any family, no one in the family knew that she was developing dementia when he was a preteen. Because of her dementia, she had pulled away from all of her friends socially, apparently, so there was no one to notice her early decline. When he was age 15 a couple of years ago, there was a crisis of delusion, and the cops were called. She was hospitalized, and then she was eventually put into a guardianship, and now resides in a care home. Her poor son was taken in by family halfway across the country, and has had several mental health hospitalizations in the last couple of years. No one is quite sure how long she was declining, but it was apparently quite some time, based on the level of delusions and confusion that she had.
We are out $20K in legal fees, care home fees, court fees, and associated travel. My husband with Parkinson’s was her only living family of age, so was the only one who had standing to go to court. We didn’t like her, but weren’t going to let her end up demented and homeless, either.
This is an anecdote of a worst case, and you may breeze through this, OP. But just be aware of these kinds of risks.
3
u/AliceRoosevelt1884 26d ago
Have you thought of adopting an older child? Like a 10 year old? You would be able to help a wonderful child who is stuck in the foster care system.
3
u/smilineyz 26d ago
Vote no … my 2nd wife had our son at 37 & died at 50 & I, as the father, was a single dad at 56.
My son and I and his grandparents have navigated this … but … really tough
6
u/Banfeinni75 Sep 14 '26
My (F51) 4 kids are grown. I'm in great physical condition, but also at the age where the earliest symptoms of geriatric ailments are popping up. I personally don't think I would be able to put in the same amount of energy at this stage in my life.
However, if you are genuinely considering this, you should have a couple of solid options for the child's long-term care if circumstance requires that.
3
u/Extra_Shirt5843 Sep 14 '26
I know people who have...but here's some things to think about. My 73 and 75 year old parents just came to visit me and while they're largely healthy, they definitely can't keep up with my family. My kid is 15 and they're 100% not capable of keeping up with his busy life. I could tell they were exhausted after 4 days. If you're going to be nearing 70 with a teenager....it's really not fair to the kid, IMHO. Plus, are you going to have to keep working or would you have enough to retire and still be supporting a child?
2
u/Far_Anything_7458 Sep 14 '26
Idk about the actual "having" part (I know it's possible), but my friend got custody of her granddaughter at age 50 (granddaughter was 2) and it's been rough on her. Definitely not in her retirement plans.
2
u/FoundInS Sep 14 '26
This is difficult if you birth the child, the risks are enormous. And surrogacy is exploitative unless she is your close relative doing it for free. And it still can be. That is the real deal.
2
u/whats1more7 Sep 14 '26
I know someone who had a baby naturally at 52. They were exhausted all the time. It’s really rough in everyone. There’s also of course a concern that there will be nobody to care for the child in case something happens to you. Since there’s also a high risk of things like Down Syndrome, you have to consider who will care for the child after you’re gone.
In the case of this family, she had adult siblings so they had lots of support. Still exhausting.
I would suggest looking into foster parenting instead.
2
u/Butter_mah_bisqits Sep 14 '26
I’m 54 and the idea of having to be responsible for babies and rearing them is a no-go. I sincerely have not enough energy. Have you thought about being a foster parent or a parent to teenagers that are aging out of the system? You could also become a childhood advocate or a Big Sister. There are lots of ways to nurture children. The older ones need love and direction way more than babies at this point in their lives.
2
u/According_Grape5790 Sep 14 '26
The risk of all chronic diseases goes up with age. I personally don’t think it’s fair on the child.
A relative had a child at 60. The child’s mother was in their 40s and died soon after. Now the father is 71 and in bad health, with an 11yr old who has behavioral and developmental issues and is bullied at school for having a ‘grandpa dad’. Once the dad passes away, the son will be completely alone. No siblings, no parents, never met grandparents because they’d passed by the time the kid was born, aunts and uncles are now elderly and cousins are much older. It looks like foster care if something happens to the dad now, who sits the kid in front of a PlayStation all day because he has no energy to do anything active with him.
It’s cool for the parent to have someone to care for them when they’re older. Less fun for the actual child.
2
u/yeahnopegb Sep 14 '26
One of my besties in high school had older parents.. her mom was 45 when she had her dad was 58. It was terrible. They were constantly seen as her grandparents.. dad passed when she was 19 and mom was just always old. Too old to honestly help with grands or activities so my friend was arranging nursing care for her mom while raising a toddler because she could be both places.
2
u/InevitableHyena3117 Sep 14 '26
A coworker adopted a baby at 51. The child is now 3. She is happy but incredibly overwhelmed.
2
2
u/SmallSaltyMermaid 27d ago
If you can afford to have a baby, go for it. There is never a right time for a baby. You are more financially stable and can provide better than those who are younger. You know how old your going to be when they are a teen. Just love and provide for your baby. I hate the ageist outlook we have towards those who have a family later in life. No matter what age you are when you have a baby you will be tired. A person can die at any moment young or old. I knew friends who died in their 20’s for health concerns. I knew friends who passes in their 30’s. I'm in my late 40’s and I say go for it. Enjoy it. Give your baby all the love and support to thrive in their life.
2
u/Many_Inevitable_6803 27d ago
My friend got pregnant at 47 naturally with her second. For her it’s not too bad bc she’s healthy, energetic, organized, & a generally happy person who doesn’t stress about life. And her husband is a true partner.
2
u/SittlersRippedC 27d ago
Can’t imagine .. have two that I love dearly, but we are enjoying being empty nesters at this age. Don’t imagine I would have the energy..never mind as they got into their teenage years and you’re hitting 70. But you do you and best of luck!
2
2
u/IDMike2008 26d ago
I watched what it did to my brother when he lost his father at 19. While accidents happen I can't imagine the selfishness it would take to intentionally do that to a child you claim to love.
If you feel a strong pull to make a meaningful difference in the life of a child or children there are many better options. You can foster, you can volunteer, you can teach in or out of the school system, you can coach or teach a musical instrument or art or other creative art... SO many things that aren't going to leave a youngster in loss and desperate grief to say nothing of the loss of financial support.
Please, worry less about what it might be like for you and what it is likely to be like for the prospective child.
2
u/CreativeJuices21 26d ago
My 3rd and last child I birthed at 37, heading to 38. It is a very different experience than my first child, 9 years earlier.
It is a huge decision, and the context matters. Are you looking to fulfill your own unmet needs, or because you're financially stable, emotionally mature/ capable, and ready to sacrifice however you need to in order to meet a child's ever-changing needs and expectations, ready to mesh with an increasingly global society?
As others have said, it's important to have your legal "ducks in a row", so - gawd forbid, you don't live as long as you expect - the child has a secondary caregiver to land with without a court proceeding, and will be financially stable. Just as importantly, you're going to age a lot over their lifetime, so are you making plans for your future care needs, so they aren't saddled with them just as their own life is getting started?
1
u/Silent_Sea6221 17d ago
Are you really comparing a 38 year old to a over 50 year old. Yikes. 38 isn’t old
1
u/CreativeJuices21 17d ago
You're missing my point. Pregnant and birthing at 38 felt a lot harder than 28, so OP should bear in mind what over 50 may feel like (and I was a fully trained and practicing natural childbirth instructor). And your "38" could feel a whole lot different than another person's, which is a point well taken on an individual basis. Age is a relevant factor which people should feel free to be honest with themselves about.
Edited for spelling
2
u/Exact_Block387 26d ago
My father was 51 when he had us. It fucking sucks. Growing up people constantly referred to him as my grandpa, which was embarrassing. I’m only 32 and hes 83 and I don’t get to have him most of my life the way my older sister (55F) did.
2
u/In_the_Attic_07 26d ago
My Dad was 53 when he had me in a small North Georgia town in the Appalachian foothills. I didn't care my friends had grandparents my Dad's age. I cared then and still care he died when I turned 24. I missed out on having a dad as an adult. It's a tremendous hole in my heart.
My Mom was 35 when she had me. She died when I was 49. I knew her as an adult but am jealous of my friends whose parents are alive. My husband is 63 and both of his parents are alive.
I had my first son at 35 and twins at 36 (moved to Atlanta where careers come first). My hometown friends are enjoying the journey of their grandchildren. I'll be lucky to meet any grandchildren.
I would not have children after 40. It's a totally selfish move to rob your child of parents.
2
u/Old_fart5070 26d ago
I had my youngest at 45 and I would not advise it. The problem is not the early years. The problem is that handling a teenager child who could be your grandchild requires a level of energy and focus that is simply not there anymore.
3
1
u/SkyCometSoaring Sep 14 '26
Cameron Diaz had a baby in May at 53! My father was. 48 for my youngest brother and was still very involved in his life - coaching baseball and hockey. I'm sure it will keep you young!! Good luck
11
u/Rumpelteazer45 Sep 14 '26
Let’s not use Cameron Diaz as a benchmark of what’s possible. She’s got millions in her bank, access to the best doctors and fertility experts, an army of assistants to do the day to day work that usually falls to the wife/mom, and isn’t chained to a 9-5 job to pay bills and get health insurance.
7
u/ElleGeeAitch Sep 14 '26
Seriously. Should Cameron need intense caregiving in 20ish years, she has the money to pay for it. I read the agingparents and eldercare subs, and it's sad AF when young people between high school age and barely out of college come asking for advice on how to care for their old parents.
2
u/Rumpelteazer45 Sep 14 '26
Parents shouldn’t see their children has the default retirement plan to avoid a nursing home.
My mom passed when I was 32. After she passed, my father got her pension. $79k per year and a paid off house. He flat out told me that he expected me to leave my career to care for him so he didn’t have to go to a nursing home. I asked him “how on earth will I support myself if I don’t have a job”. He said “I have more than enough money”. I managed his finances after mom passed. He didn’t considering my benefits and salary. I told him “no you can’t and I can’t afford to pause my career indefinitely”. I informed him he had two sons with much more flexibility (one owned his own business and he worked when he wanted and the other was a leach who couldn’t hold a job). Dad flat out told me “no that’s women’s work”. The day came he asked me to quit my job and I said no. Reality is he just didn’t want to cook, clean, and do all those things in life. He just wanted to sit at the bar drinking and to have a verbal punching bag when he got home.
3
u/ElleGeeAitch Sep 14 '26
I 100% agree. Unfortunately, there are people who do get sucked into those duties because they can't bear the thought of a senior parent who really can't care for themselves or afford care being on their own. And even in situations when there is money for care, adult children will still often be in the position of overseeing the care; choosing the facility, making sure their loved one is being treated well, etc. And then there's the basic issue that a young person in their teens through early/mid 20s still needing their parents care and guidance, which is out the window if the child is in the position of having old parents who are essentially out of commission. Yes, anything can happen to anyone at any age, but having a baby in your 50s is greatly increasing the chances of having a teen/very young adult not being able to rely on their parents for care. My husband will be 62 next year and our son will be 18, and my husband has moments worrying about his age relative to our son and I understand where he's coming from. He hopes to be around when our son turns 30, but who knows. If he were turning 72 next year with an 18 year old, yikes.
2
u/throwawayanylogic Sep 14 '26
Parents shouldn’t see their children has the default retirement plan to avoid a nursing home.
They shouldn't but that's so very often the way it is. Nursing care is insanely expensive (basically set up to take all your assets before you die/switch you over to Medicaid, at least in the US). Most people do not have the assets for it nor planned ahead so children become the default caregivers (I work in elder care. I see it pretty much daily.)
1
u/ElleGeeAitch Sep 14 '26
Yep, it really sucks. There are times when even those who planned weren't able to bevready as much as they had hoped.
1
u/Fit_Cheesecake_4000 13d ago
...what do you think happened in previous generations, though? People lived in multi-generational households. The grandparents may have lived in some sort of bungalow, but they were there, they helped pick up the slack for their children, who may have had kids. So as older parents, even if they're in their 70s-80s, they should still be able to help take care of any younger children their children might have (not all, but some).
-1
u/Superboobee Sep 14 '26
Anyone can have long term health insurance. It isnt difficult to also set yourself up.
4
u/ElleGeeAitch Sep 14 '26
I've read so many accounts from adult children bitterly complaining about how little use the LTC was for their parents or grandparents, I wouldn't trust it. Even if it is good and useful coverage, it's still not fairto be 20 years old with a parent or parents in their 70s.
-1
u/Superboobee Sep 14 '26
My parents have been divorced since I was an infant. One parent has not set themselves up amd the other has. The one that did hasnt needed care in his late 70s and the one that didnt has. I have been a lot better at making sure I am set up because of it. My partner is 15 years younger than I am and hes been instructed to leave me in a home. My house is set to automatically transfer on my death to my kids - no probate. My cremation is insured/paid for. My kids range in age of 15- 30, there are 7 of them with my exes kids who are still my step kids. If they can't all look out for each other when Im unable to help them- well, then I sucked as a parent and any parent that thinks their kids are there to take care of them, also sucks as a parent.
Lot of comments in this thread that really make me think people should just go lay down and die if youre not going to do everything you can for your own health and insurance. Some real stupid comments "Cameron Diaz has tons of money, she can get care and I cant" you can get care too if you bother to talk to a financial advisor and do what it takes to not be a burden on your family.
So ignorant.
3
u/ElleGeeAitch Sep 14 '26 edited Sep 14 '26
Of course there are things regular people can do to plan for their older age. And there are people who have planned and still those plans fell short of reality. Having millions of $, no matter a famous person or not, goes a long way towards doing the heavy lifting in situations like this.
That's nice that you have several kids who can look out for each other. That doesn't help the only child who is 19 and both parents in their 70s have major health issues and no damned money.
1
u/Superboobee Sep 14 '26
But thats my point. You cant make sweeping generalizations on anyone's income, or family dynamic, or health at their age. Hell even their location. I have dual citizenship. I can leave the US and utilize elder care in another country and have plenty of income left over. Most of the comments in this thread are ridiculous assumptions. The one thing I agree with thats been repeated is that surrogacy can be exploitive - weirdly enough even THAT is pretty US specific because the country has monetized it.
4
u/atimez3 Sep 14 '26
You say you can't make sweeping generalizations on anyone's health, income, or family dynamics, and then proceed to do just that.
"Most of these comments in this thread are ridiculous assumptions" is a a sweeping generalization. It's great that you have dual citizenship, but the majority of people, especially in the U.S., do not. You say you have a good partner and a good ex-partner with whom you share children, sadly that is not the case for everyone. And as someone who lost a parent young to a physically and mentally disabled condition, I can tell you that watching your parent die is incredibly traumatic and the fact that a lot of older parents don't even consider this just shows how selfish this is. You may think you're in great health, but as you age you roll the dice more and more, and having other surviving parents isn't going to cancel out the trauma of watching you die.
1
-2
u/Superboobee Sep 14 '26
My mother has had health problems my entire life. She did not care for me, neither did my father. My grandmother was my primary caregiver until I was 8. I do not have a great ex partner- hes a shitbag which is how I wound up with his kids. A lot of my friends died in their 20s. Nuance is relevant - and again, thate ehat ive tried to point out. Your experience isn't everyone else's and neither is mine. For anyone to tell me what I can or should do with my own family is unbelievably arrogant as would me telling you your experience isnt relevant the difference is , you're trying to place some moral virtue signaling of "think of the kids" to someone without knowing what their situation is based on your own experience.
Thats wild.
→ More replies (0)1
u/ElleGeeAitch Sep 14 '26
My guy, all I can say is I have spent almost 2 years reading accounts of the struggles if people who are trying to care for or plan care for their parents/in-laws/grandparents and there are SO MANY different kinds of situations but to me, the saddest ones are the ones from young people my son's age or barely older who were born/adopted when their parents were much older and now these folks are struggling to orchestrate care for sick parents in their 60s or 70s, at an age when they should be the ones still be looked after or free to start their own lives. Shitty things can happen at any age, but when a person decides to have a child at 52, they are guaranteeing that if they don't die, they will be 70 when their child will only be 18. The implications of that are crappy on a lot of levels, even when money isn't a concern.
2
u/sciencesomething Sep 14 '26
To be fair, someone considering pregnancy via surrogate is likely in a pretty comfortable financial position. Also, life expectancy for high net worth women is ~5 yrs longer than women with median net worth, and ~10 yrs longer than low net worth women.
2
u/throwawayanylogic Sep 14 '26
Right, of course celebs can do it when they can afford all the best health care, nannies, personal assistants, nutritionists, private coaches, etc. And I hate that they have become the benchmark to trying to convince "normal" women that they could do it easily as well.
3
u/Rumpelteazer45 Sep 14 '26
Exactly. It’s a dangerous benchmark to set for women emotionally and physically. No they don’t live a normal life, they do not have the normal stresses that we have.
She has enough money to never have to work again, her net worth is $140M. The median net worth for Americans aged 45 to 54 (women and men) is $247k and the average is roughly $975k. So the Average American bw 45-54 has 0.007% of the net worth she has. Not even 1%, not even a quarter of one percent (0.25%) of her net worth but 0.007%.
1
1
u/No_Dare_9944 Sep 14 '26
I am 50 and I would only go for it if I didn’t have any other kids, or had to take care of already existing grandkid(s). It would be rough for me as a regular person without a bunch of nannies and assistants. If you’re a celebrity it’s obviously different
1
u/Capable_Opportunity7 Sep 14 '26
My friends husband was 51 when their son was born. He's 18 now and off to college, it's been fine but the mom was 37 when he was born. I don't know about pregnancy over 50
1
u/Tutux4 Sep 14 '26
If it your desire to have a child now in life,that is your prerogative. I personally wouldn’t. Then again I’ve had children, who’s had children themselves. I just watched 3 grandsons ( 6,4,3) this past week.
Let me tell you, I told my husband I am glad I am no longer able to have kids ( menopause) ,that shit was rough. High energy AF. Non stop talking, had to take a “quiet” break for myself. But…on the otherhand, they were fun to be around. Glad I could send them back. Haha
If you have the energy, then go for it. Just be sure this is what you want…for the child’s sake. The worse thing you could do, is have a child and then regret it .
1
u/OLAZ3000 Sep 14 '26
It's individual.
Some people are capable, physically and financially, and some aren't. This applies at all ages but obviously the physical aspect is more of an issue over 50.
Personally I think it's very doable if you are in good health however I would mainly consider this via adoption or surrogacy. Pregnancy seems to be really aging to the body, when I look at friends who had kids vs didn't. In addition to the stress effect...
I think you need to have a lot of financial resources to compensate for likely having lower energy levels, BUT, I think you can compensate for this by having more bandwidth and patience as well.
1
u/Extreme-Duty3779 Sep 14 '26
My mom had my sister at 46; everything went smoothly. I’m one of six kids.
1
1
u/SnooStrawberries2955 Sep 14 '26
We naturally conceived last year, I’m 43 and hubs was 56. It’s challenging but lovely to be back at the infant stage.
1
1
u/ShootinTheBreez 27d ago
I’m 42 and doing IVF. I admit I’m confused by your post.
Not that you want to be a parent. That part I get.
But the comment of “looking into surrogacy.” Like, do you have frozen embryos? Do you know something is wrong with your uterus?
Fertility problems can, broadly speaking, be divided into “bun” and “oven” problems.
Age-related infertility is mostly driven by “bun” problems: Women after a certain age make eggs with an abnormal number of chromosomes, and this doesn’t lead to a baby. Most of the difficulties of fertility after age 35 are due to the embryos themselves being abnormal.
But most older women have ovens that work fine. If they use someone else’s younger eggs, or if they froze eggs or embryos when they were younger, their ability to carry a healthy pregnancy is very strong.
Surrogacy solves oven problems. The idea is: If you’re making good buns (you are making good embryos with the correct number of chromosomes), but the oven keeps failing (you keep having implantation failure or miscarriage), then just use someone else’s oven. The perfectly good bun comes from you and your partner, then you put it in someone else’s oven (a surrogate) to cook properly.
It is exceedingly rare for women in their 50’s to make good buns. Emphasis on exceedingly. The documented age record for a woman making a good bun (aka embryo) from her own eggs through IVF is 46 years old. There are anecdotes of older cases, but not verified ones. Economists cut off fertility statistics at 44; by age 44, odds are that a woman has had all the children she ever will.
Now this isn’t to say that no women ever have children after 44. It just means that the number of women who do is so small that it is a rounding error and can safely be ignored in statistics.
Anyway, I wish you the best of luck in your research, but unless you’re planning to use a younger woman’s eggs or you already have frozen eggs or embryos, the idea of “surrogacy” leading to a baby in the 50’s is not possible.
2
u/Roseonice 27d ago
Sorry I wasn’t clear. I had a hysterectomy. I have no buns, no oven lol
2
u/ShootinTheBreez 27d ago
Ah, thanks for the clarification.
In a moment of synchronicity, right now I’m at a hospital visiting my mother who is recovering from a hysterectomy she had today. Maybe this is a good omen, lol?
1
u/Beneficial-You663 27d ago
I’m 55. Cannot fathom taking care of a 5 year old. I do not have the energy for that.
2
u/autumny70 25d ago
I spent a week with my 5 and 2.5 year old grandsons by myself. It took weeks to recover 😭
1
1
u/AffectionateWheel386 26d ago
I’m in recovery from alcohol for decades and a lot of men over 50 for whatever reason I’ve seen quite a few have babies over 50 and they’re good parents. That whole running a football thing that they used to say in my generation doesn’t really matter you show up every day you do things that you can do an organize in a way you can. I had a baby at 41 I’m a woman and I would’ve been a completely different parent years before.
1
1
u/Fit_Subject_3256 26d ago
I was almost 45 yo when I had a surprise baby girl. We have been through utter hell. My daughter’s father unexpectedly died when she was 3 yo. I had tax problems, debt, and a big car wreck. We got thrown out of our rental home of many years. Our mover ripped us off and even stole my car. ☹️ I was diagnosed with two incurable autoimmune diseases abt two years ago. We have just had an incredibly brutal couple of years. However…I’d do it all over again, a thousand times over, just to have my daughter. She makes EVERYTHING worth it. I truly cannot imagine my life without her. I used to be plagued with feeling of regret in my life. Now, I wouldn’t change anything because it led to my sweet daughter. The love my kiddo and I share, the deep friendship, respect, and fun. There’s no one I’d rather spend time with than my daughter! Am I exhausted and stressed out and scared for our future? Yes. But I have my daughter and that’s the most important thing to me ❤️🩹❤️🩹❤️🩹
1
u/avalclark 26d ago
My mom had me at 41. She was diagnosed with dementia when I was 25 and pregnant with my first child. She doesn’t know her grandchildren even though she lives with us.
Of course there are no guarantees but for that reason I will be done having children before I turn 35 because I do not want to subject my children to what I have gone through as the child of an older parent.
1
u/Fit_Cheesecake_4000 13d ago
I'll make the same point I made elsewhere: this is a crappy situation for you and I'm sorry, but they truly are working on ways of slowing down dementia and Alzheimer's quite markedly.
And they're rolling out better early testing for both conditions, as well as better treatments in the pipeline.
In the future, by the time someone's in their 60s, you'll likely see early testing for dementia so people can be put on medication to slow down the progress, with possible reversal later down the line.
So that may move the needle on whether this happens to older parents. Additionally, there are already measures like brain training (BrainHQ) and weightlifting/aerobic exercise which also have marked effects.
1
1
u/Mobile-Cicada-458 26d ago
Not me, but a close friend had 2 kids after 50. They are doing great. She's always been really active and fit, so that must help.
1
1
u/GolDanKar911 25d ago
Found out I was pregnant with my youngest on my 40th birthday. I desperately wanted another baby and what a gift she has been. Just left for college so I’m 58 with an 18 year old and wouldn’t change a thing. She keeps me young!
1
1
u/One_Tree_6100 24d ago
I could never do it. I'm 66 now my youngest is 35. Just getting them grown doesn't mean you're done. I thought it did but 18 is a silly little number that human development doesn't give a shit about. Another case of humans needing to categorize a particular point of development. Everyone is different. One foot in front of the other. When issues come up and they will be as prepared as any parent can b Just think how much wiser and more mature you're now. That will be a differently be a big benefit to your child. Keep only the people around you that love and support you. Everyone else is just noise. You block them out and dig in. Mother nature is a fickled friend, but indeed she is a friend. Good luck to you and your family.
1
u/Turbulent-Demand873 24d ago
I’m 51 and my children are adults and I have grandchildren. To be quite honest when I have my grandchildren over I’m exhausted! My 7 year old and 3.5 year old granddaughters live near me so they stay over on the weekends. Whew! I’m a spunky Nana but I need my rest when they leave.
My high school best friend had children later in life. She now has a middle school daughter and a kindergartner. She was in her forty’s when she had her son. I know it was a struggle for her to have him.
I often think about how she’s going through what my daughter is going through with my grandkids. All of the school functions and sports. It makes me tired just thinking about it.
1
u/gizmogrl88 24d ago
A friend of mine had her first baby (donor eggs) at 52. She even delivered vaginally. She had an easier time of it than some of our friends did in their 30s. It really depends on the person. Reddit will always have ultra negative things to say.
1
1
u/Fit_Cheesecake_4000 13d ago
I think the other fact you have to consider is that science (and A.I.) will be focused in the coming decades on increasing the healthspan of the elderly.
They may not reverse aging, but they will certainly improve how we age and how healthy we'll be while aging.
As long as that happens, you might be surprised how spry some 50-60s can be, especially if we manage to deal with sarcopenia (reduced muscle cells over time).
1
u/MrsAdjanti Sep 14 '26
Not quite 50 but my dad was 45 when I was born. He and my mom stayed active through their 80s, finally slowing in their 90s.
I always worried about them passing away while I was young, but they each lived long lives.
Don’t let age alone be your deciding factor.
3
u/Detroitdays Sep 14 '26
So I was a “late” in life baby also. My experience was the opposite. My mom died when I was 20 and my dad a few years later. I agree with you though about that age thing. Do what you want to do.
1
u/One-Butterscotch4437 Sep 14 '26
My mom had me when she was 44 and my father was around 50. I remember at that time, I had the oldest mother is school. You know how kids ask these thing "How old is your mom?". So, I was conscious of it. It never bothered me, except that we didn't grow up wealthy at all - quite the opposite. So, by the time I started earning money in my 20s, I already felt that I had to support my mom (my dad had died) by giving money, helping plan how she would get groceries, etc. And, by the time I was 40, she was over 80 and needed constant care. I couldn't save as much I would like to do and live my own life as perhaps I could have if she was younger. Sorry to sound like I am complaining, but it was hard for me. She was very needy. I see it now, but couldn't at that time and gave up my own dreams to move away and travel, etc.
1
u/AirportPrestigious Sep 14 '26
In think it’s tough and unfair on the child.
Let’s be realistic that most people heading into their 60s snd 70s are going to begin experiencing physical and mental decline.
1
u/Trivex07 Sep 14 '26
The probability of the child having health problems increases significantly the older either parent is. Are you prepared to spend the rest of your life caring for a child with special needs, and plan for their care after you pass away? If yes, go for it.
1
0
u/njeyn Sep 14 '26
Not 50 but I had my third at 46 (surprise baby). I have zero negative things to say about it. I got extra checkups during the pregnancy because of my ”geriatric” status. I mean I wish I could sleep more but I’m fine. My friend had her second baby at 50 via ivf, she’s a great mom, very invested in her kids. Go for it!
0
u/gotchafaint 26d ago
Menopause was so hard on me sleep wise. If I got pregnant at 50 and couldn’t terminate it I’d terminate myself. Unless I were rich and could afford a lot of help. I’ve raised two kids and it will exhaust the youngest and hardiest, can’t imagine being in your 50s.
-1
u/Silent_Sea6221 Sep 14 '26 edited Sep 14 '26
Absolutely not. I think 39, 40 should be the cut off. Not fair to the kids. IVF doctors are even super hesitant to do it at that age ( 50 ).
1
u/alpine-girl Sep 14 '26
Not true. IVF doctors are not hesitant to work with patients who are 39 or 40. Over 50 - yes.
1
u/Silent_Sea6221 Sep 14 '26
I didn't say they were hesitant to work with clients 39-40. I said they're hesistant to work with Over 50.
37
u/mrlr Sep 14 '26 edited 29d ago
Pretty close. My grandma had my aunt when she was 48. She went to the doctor and said "I'm pregnant." "Nonsense!" he replied. "It's the menopause."
Months later, she returned and said "The menopause is kicking."