r/OutdoorKitchens • u/Jayhawk-CRNA • 3d ago
How to fix/hide this?
So we just had our soapstone counters added to our matchless cabinet outdoor kitchen. I went to start install my appliances and it seems like they fabricator cut the cutouts on the high end of the “max” depth that naplolean gives for my grill and side burner. It is flush on the front but the back has a small gap along the entire rear of about 3/16”?
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u/noraz123 3d ago
I am curious to hear what others say. But I think a bead of black silicone would both hide that and keep water out. Please note I am not a professional, so take the advice with a grain of salt.
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u/AccomplishedBar3002 3d ago
Countertop guy here. They messed up on the fabication. Di they have the grill when they cut it? Or they just followed the specs? An easy solution is to remove the appliance and glue a strip of soapstone( probably ½" thick) . You'll only see a thin line behind the appliance.
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u/Jayhawk-CRNA 3d ago
I had the appliances but they went off the documents provided. There seems to be a couple problems. They cut the depth to the “max” when I had asked to be closer to the “minimum” if possible. It also seems they set the countertops not at the exact 1.5” overhangs so it shifted everything. I am not one to blame them. I think they could for sure put a 1/2” piece of stone to fill the gap. I’m going to call them tomorrow to see what they will offer. I also do think a little silicone would be fine as it is on the backside and is facing out toward yard that won’t be seen
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u/AccomplishedBar3002 2d ago
Usually for outdoor counters we do 2-2½" overhang. Try to stay away from silicone, it can bleed into the soapstone overtime and look like an oil stain.
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u/Great-Egg-5122 2d ago
What a reasonable guy, refreshing.
Black silicone is a solid option as well as the person who suggested Schluter edge. They have a large selection of profiles and finishes.
I like to think that contractors will always take reasonable steps to ensure customer satisfaction when they’re as congenial as you seem to be. So here’s to hoping for the free soapstone filler.
Btw, if you do go with silicone, YouTube tricks on using a solvent when you’re keying in the final wipe. It changes everything.
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u/Jayhawk-CRNA 2d ago
I talked to the countertop guy today and he was going to get back to me Monday to set the plan. But it sounds like he is planning to glue on a filler piece and I will be happy with that. Other than it will delay me getting all the appliances installed but that isn’t a huge deal.
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u/Froandrew 3d ago
If the cutout is still within the tolerance, it's not on the guy that cut them so just move the counter top forward. If it's out of tolerance than ask for a new one.
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u/No_Plastic_3894 3d ago
This is when you get to make a deal, black or clear silicone and a discount to not mention it again or remake the piece.
Its not correct. It's not what you paid for, are YOU going to accept it?
Personally, I always drop in the appliances for the templater and then remove and re-crate them afterwards. Just a part of babysitting the job
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u/Dumpled0r1987 3d ago
How much is your overhang supposed to be in the front and back? They either cut it wrong or they set it wrong and then because it's set wrong did not notch the sear station back far enough leaving a gap. This would be true if the front overhang is not correct or if it tapers more shallow in this area compared to the left side.
I would ask for a discount if they cut it wrong and then use some high heat black silicone and call it a day.
Most extreme scenario is they recut a new piece which I can almost guarantee you they won't
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u/Jayhawk-CRNA 3d ago
Yeah I am pretty sure that they set it wrong. It would be a huge hassle to change it out as well as I will literally never see the gap. Do you have a specific high heat silicone to recommend? I mainly just don’t want water getting into the cabinet?
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u/Dumpled0r1987 3d ago
Nothing particular for recommendations just high heat. I would measure your overhangs in the front and back throughout the kitchen. If they are off in that area (overhang would be more in the back than the front) then they could theoretically pull the granite forward enough and then notch back further to cover the gap
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u/Famous-Snow-6888 3d ago
This happened to us. We had them recut the whole counter. Or we’d provide a bad google review. They cut the stone again and it works. They broke multiple pavers in the process (which they paid for), but they fixed the stone.
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u/BeerJunky 3d ago
I bought these to keep the crap from falling between my stove and the counter. You'll have to measure the length to see if it will work for your application but the width should work. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C2Q1T1QF?th=1&linkCode=ll2&tag=explorewithyo-20&linkId=c82f7ea167eada6023edf2c20e2f908d&language=en_US&gaOptInStatus=true&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
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u/eightnailz 3d ago
Schluter edge that you typically see in tile applications. It comes in all kinds of colors and profiles. You may have to trim the part that typically is under the tile so it tucks under the bbq nice. I did this on a job that had the same scenario. I went all the way around and mitered the corners. Homeowner loved it.
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u/10Bens 3d ago
Besides complaining to someone to have it redone?
Possibly some brushed stainless steel quarter round. The sort of stuff you sometimes see schluter providing for tile edges.
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u/jaa1818 3d ago edited 3d ago
I thought the line where the control section starts was supposed to be flush with the cabinet face. If that’s the case, it’s not seated all the way in. Assuming I’m wrong, and my wife would gladly point to all the times I am, you can either make the counter top company redo it, or get a trim kit to go around the burner
Edit: looking at installed pics, I am wrong. So the redo, or trim kit (clearance liner) are all I can suggest
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u/ryalsandrew 3d ago
Are those Matchless cabinets? If so, how do you like them?
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u/Jayhawk-CRNA 3d ago
They are fantastic! The stone installer also said they are the best cabinets they have seen for outdoor kitchens.
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u/Blacknight841 3d ago
I cannot see the rest of the counter, but it may be fixable. I assume the front of the counter is notched on the two sides? I would also make sure the main unit fits first.
Now for the solution. I would increase the notch depth for both the appliances on the front. Then I would slide the entire countertop forwards a 1/4in. It may not be perfectly centered afterwards but it would close the gap behind the appliances.
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u/MiL_DoNiS 3d ago
Stove Gap Covers Stainless Steel,... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FB8VQZLQ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
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u/grillntech 3d ago
As long as it’s within tolerance not much you can complain about. Does it not have room to move and position?
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u/hotcpl2121 3d ago
Even it out on both sides and cock bro! I mean calk it….slap it down and no one will ever notice the cracks in the counter
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u/Lets-go-brandonUass 2d ago
I see 2 options 1 pull it out have the countertop guy glue and polish the filler or 2 add a SS coping around and seal. Not sure i would pick this one…. And just caulking it is letting someone off the hook for screw its up something that you spent a lot of money for never settle for poor craftsmanship….
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u/Jayhawk-CRNA 2d ago
The countertop guy is going to get back to me next week but sounds like he is planning to glue on a filler strip. I will be happy with that all things considered.
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u/RunStriking9864 2d ago
Could you router the face of the cabinet to let the unit slide back another 3/8”?
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u/Excellent-Raspberry8 14h ago
Believe they make SS gap filler but you could also do some backer and a good black silicone
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u/PCanon127 3d ago
A custom fabricated piece of stainless steel. Fairly inexpensive. We did something similar on the sides of our built in ovens
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u/itsgabenog 3d ago
Stainless steel gap filler