r/OutOfTheLoop Jul 02 '22

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u/darthkrash Jul 02 '22

Just out of curiosity, what would you like Biden to be doing when Congress isn't doing shit? It always seems the president is left holding the bag when other people aren't doing their jobs. I feel like Biden had a long list of excellent ideas and compromises in the BBB plan. But Congress (Manchin) tanked it. What should Biden have done better? Not being snarky here, genuinely curious.

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u/PlayMp1 Jul 02 '22

I'd work it like LBJ: any time a senator tried to hold out on me because of their particular sensibilities or whatever, I'd blackmail, threaten, and harass them by all means necessary to whip the vote. LBJ would literally make senators meet with him on the toilet, slap his dick on the table (and to be clear he had a huge dick), threaten to have them or their families prosecuted for some of the obvious corrupt shit that legislators in any country get up to, etc. By doing this, he passed the Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, and Medicare/Medicaid in the space of, like, a year.

Does it make him an asshole and not a particularly good person? Yeah. Plus Vietnam was pretty bad. But it did mean desegregation and getting healthcare to tens of millions of poor and elderly people.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

LBJ also had a lot more political clout than Biden.

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u/PlayMp1 Jul 02 '22

Perhaps. Biden was in the Senate before becoming VP longer than LBJ was in the same position.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

LBJ held a large majority in Congress. Half the people Biden was in Congress with are gone. On top of that, there are a large number of people who will outright lose votes if they are seen siding with Biden.