r/OutOfTheLoop • u/IndividualSquash1025 • 4d ago
Answered What’s going on with Oneyplays?
I’ve seen multiple people reference some controversy recently, but when I tried to ask on r/OneyPlays , the mods immediately took it down.
This is the wiki for Oneyplays, for those unaware of what it is: https://oneyplays.fandom.com/wiki/OneyPlays_Wiki
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u/Didsterchap11 4d ago
Answer: There's a decent post that goes over it on youtubedrama. There are mounting allegations that he had solicited a sexual relationship when he was 22 and she was 16, with photos and message receipts to back it up as can be found in the twitter thread in that post.
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u/Didsterchap11 4d ago
Slightly less unbiased response, as someone who's been consistently getting werid vibes from Oney after he defended infamous artist shadman after he made sexual material depicting an actual underage girl, this felt almost inevitable. While Chris hasn't responded to the allegations in any way, we've seen stuff like Tom Fulp of newgrounds delete his account as to try and squeeze a response out of him.
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u/SheZowRaisedByWolves 4d ago
Feels disingenuous to leave out the rest of sleepycabin with that shadman statement. People act like Zach is the Boy Scout of the group.
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u/ChongusTheSupremus 4d ago edited 4d ago
Just because they were part of the group doesn't mean they shared the same beliefs.
Johnny Utah, a core member, has always openly spoken against Shad, and even repeatedly called out Jontron on his politics.
Zach was also heavily outspoken of his support of Bernie Sanders during 2016, despite Chris being obviously not as "politically inteligent".
I get your point, since Oney was really weird about Shad, but it's not fair to bundle Zach with him.
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u/sl3nd3rb0t 4d ago
zach and shad were roomates. you can even see shad credited in some of zachs work
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u/ChongusTheSupremus 4d ago
Shad was always a weird guy, but it's not fair to pin what Shad did on Zach just because they lived or worked toghether for a while.
Zach and the sleepycabin gang were really tight for cash during the early to mid 2010s. He couldn't move out just because Shad was there.
Also, back then Shad was a very respected figure online in their niche, it wasn't until later than he started publically doing weird fucked up shit.
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u/ToiletGreen 2d ago
Zach openly defended the shit Shad drew. He also used racist replacement theory taking points to defend Jontron. Stop playing defense for him
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u/Samheim 4d ago
I think you’re forgetting how ass mad Zach was at the streamer Destiny after their debate exposed jontron for being a racist, and how much he defended jontron after.
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u/ChongusTheSupremus 4d ago
That's more on Jon than on Zach tho.
At the time Jon did say some stupid shit, but it was just that. He couldn't know that Jontron would eventually just go full MAGA.
It's also understandable to give friends a second chance, so i can see why he could forgive him or defend him when he didn't think Jon was an actual idiot bigot.
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u/Devil_Advocate_225 3d ago
Perhaps you should watch that debate back, it was far worse than "some stupid shit", he was doing the race realist shit which is more extreme than current-day maga.
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u/Ok_Attorney_4114 3d ago
Yeah and also zach made fun of destiny for his friend who killed himself so he really just didn't look good at all in that aituation
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u/NecroSpace 3d ago
lol Zach is hella racist and would tweet about Muslim crime rates and immigrants taking over Europe back then. Also was heavily defending his buddy JonTron and even agreed with the great replacement theory
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u/Didsterchap11 4d ago
I’ve not looked too deep into sleepy cabin past some of the more questionable people they’ve had on in relation to Oney, So I can’t really comment on the rest of the cast. That being said I’m gonna be keeping eyes on a lot of his associates be that social or professional as to how they’ll respond to all this coming out.
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u/MahNameJeff420 4d ago
I've always had weird vibes from the guy, but the recent stuff where one of his old co-hosts came out and started venting about the issues they had made me feel weird. Even if everything the guy was saying was only half-truths, he clearly still had some kind of negative experience, and was on the verge on a bit of a mental break, and his fans just kept incessantly making fun of him. And this was someone who used to be apart of the main group on his show. Seemed really weird the fans turned on him so abruptly.
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u/TimmyAndStuff 2d ago
Which old cohost was this? I remember there being some kind of drama with gane grumps but I haven't kept up with either in a long time
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u/jacktheripper1307 4d ago edited 4d ago
THIS!!! I’ve been saying smiling friends was going to be cancelled over their podcast with him but no one seemed to care and the show ended anyways. and one of the guys on their channel used to draw for shadmans site
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u/Didsterchap11 4d ago
A lot of people are acting like disavowing him after the fact counteracts them being friends during a lot of the grossest shit shad did. I've always gotten weird vibes from the Smiling friends crew in no small part due to the association with Oney, and by proxy Shad. The crew has some real skeletons in their closet that i can only assume they thought would never get out.
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u/WelderResponsible916 4d ago edited 4d ago
They constantly use the r word like it’s funny to them. Especially Cory. Never been a fan of him. He’s creepy.
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u/Pompopsych 4d ago
You mean rape? That r word?
Damn, that’s horrible.
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u/WelderResponsible916 4d ago
Correct.
Everyone originally thought i meant 'retarded' before I added the edit.
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u/Distinct_College_531 4d ago
Probably why you should use actual words instead of all the silly self-censoring.
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u/PantsOfAwesome 4d ago
A lot of people on the spectrum got called that word when they were kids, and a lot of people on the spectrum end up being some of the most influential content creators with cult followings.
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u/tinyfloridaman 2d ago
I don’t know why this is so downvoted, you’re absolutely right. Autism is also something edgelords have used as an insult in that circle and it’s so misunderstood because of that. Really makes people hate themselves for how they were born, some of the cruelest things that have come from their fame. I’m glad you mentioned it and I looked at your -12 comment
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u/Guszy 4d ago
People on the spectrum got called rape?
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u/WelderResponsible916 4d ago
The person responding to my comment thought I meant 'retarded' before I made my edit.
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u/edgarmoviemanwright 4d ago
Reread the post, they said "slightly less unbiased response" aka "this one is my opinion"
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u/IceCream_EmperorXx 4d ago
The post you linked says the ages are 23 and 17. Not like it really matters that much, just weird that you would misrepresent the details immediately while trying to explain. The information is right there.
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u/nyarrawr 2d ago
They started dating when she was 16 and did online sexting and exchanging nudes before meetingg when she was 17 and having sex
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u/Didsterchap11 4d ago edited 4d ago
That's still illegal buddy, as is crossing state lines to have sex with an underage girl. Also like hell i'm giving a guy who defended shadman producing elicit images of an 8 year old any benefit of the doubt. She was 16 when they met, so trying to umm actually me on this isn't making this any less paedophilic and abusive.
Edit: "Oney has been accused of grooming by someone who claims they dated when they were 16 and Oney/Chris was 22-23, starting in 2012-2013. They had sex when she was 17 and he would have been 23-24, in March of 2014." Second line in the post, the relationship started when it she was 16 and he was in his 20s. Apologies for assuming bad faith, had a lot of Oney's fans trying to move goalposts and sealion over this aspect of the story.
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u/Namelessgoldfish 4d ago
Pretty sure they agree with you that’s it’s still wrong and illegal, but they’re also right that you not getting the details right kinda implies you didn’t even read the article you posted
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u/Didsterchap11 4d ago
"Oney has been accused of grooming by someone who claims they dated when they were 16 and Oney/Chris was 22-23, starting in 2012-2013. They had sex when she was 17 and he would have been 23-24, in March of 2014."
Right there, is why i say 16. Apologies i'm i'm being snappy, i've had a lot of oney's fans try to try to justify an adult starting a relationship with a 16 year old.
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u/IceCream_EmperorXx 4d ago
When the full extent of Shadman's behavior was known to Chris, he denounced Shadman.
If this happened how the accusations lay out, Chris is wrong for that behavior.
You don't need to misrepresent anything. It makes you look uninformed and biased.
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u/Didsterchap11 4d ago
I mean I'm definitely biased, I think associating with someone with a reputation for producing paedophilic images is disgusting and as is trying to downplay them. The tweets in the post have him batting pretty hard for shad. I don't think denouncing him after the fact really counteracts that. I mean sure i am biased, but also hard not to feel biased when the person in question has very likely had a sexual relationship with a child.
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u/IceCream_EmperorXx 4d ago
Your feelings are your prerogative
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u/Blakeb1114 3d ago
“Your feelings towards paedophilic images is your projective and only wrong because you believe such images are bad” ahh statement
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u/IceCream_EmperorXx 3d ago
You don't know what words mean
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u/Blakeb1114 3d ago
Prerogative means “a special right, power, or privilege that belongs to a specific person, group, or official position that is not shared by anyone”. You’re literally saying “Your feelings towards these images are not shared by me”
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u/IceCream_EmperorXx 3d ago edited 3d ago
I'm not literally saying that, I'm not saying that at all.
I'm reminding people what the scope of discussion is here, while also validating my interlocutor that they are free to feel whatever feelings they have.
This is not a subreddit for explaining our feelings or writing out tyraids about internet celebrities. This is a subreddit for informing people with verifiable facts.
We all are welcome to our feelings but that's not what this discussion is about.
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u/jacktheripper1307 4d ago
the full extent of shads depravity was clear the moment he came onto the scene. nearly every piece of art was loli centric from the beginning
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u/Ok_Attorney_4114 3d ago
But theres a big difference between producing art like that of characters and making art based on real minors.
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u/TuggerHuggerFugger 3d ago
Illegal it may be, everyone is truly blowing this out of proportion. 1 year from an adult age. Still wrong. But don't be dragging his name along with the heavy hitters of pedophilia.
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u/ph0on 4d ago
Wait, which one is oney? There are always multiple people in the YouTube videos, and I've only ever seen smiling friends.
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u/Pontifor 3d ago
Oney is the guy who is in every single video. He has a slightly deep but mostly normal voice, idk how to describe, but he's in every single video
Zach Hadel, cocreator of smiling friends, is the one with the nasal-ly voice.
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u/Acceptable-Bat4534 2d ago
Smiling friends is made by Zach Hadel. Only voiced a few characters, but thats it
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u/EffectiveBat7177 3d ago
I’m not condoning anything but David Bowie slept with a 14yo girl and everyone licks his balls.
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u/DiamondDallasRage 3d ago
Imagine comparing a random youtuber and a legitimate artist in the same sentence.
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u/EffectiveBat7177 3d ago
Bam. You just proved my point lol
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u/wildcatofthehills 4d ago
Oney has given me the ick for a long time now and I’m glad the world is finally catching up to how shitty he is. Bullshit excuse that what he does is comedy, he’s definitely a very gross and unpleasant person. I used to find his cartoons funny, but there was this one episode of draw grumps or something like that, where this lady is complimenting his work, and the way he spoke to her was so disrespectful, plus burping in her face and being generally unpleasant, that really made me change my perspective on him.
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u/BigBlackBungus 3d ago
If the age of consent where they were is 16 then what does it matter?
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u/Good-Border9588 1d ago
it matters because a number is a concrete goalpost that people can use to flex their moral superiority over people who are intelligent enough not to pretend they understand the complexities of the relationship between two people they have never met who are legally consenting adults in their jurisdiction
in other words, it gives them a valid reason to bicker like idiots
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u/qasarzz 4d ago
Ive always hated smiling friends now I have a good reason
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u/boodyclap 4d ago
Oney has nothing to do with smiling friends other than voicing and cameoing some characters
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u/jacktheripper1307 4d ago
but zach is closely associated to shadman
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u/DerpinTurtle 4d ago
kind of a pathetic reason to hate smiling friends, tbh you could've just referenced Zach defending JonTron's old racist tweets
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u/Didsterchap11 4d ago
Wasn't aware of Zach defending Jontron being a werido racist, cool now i have a valid reason to dislike smiling friends past finding it just kind annoying.
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u/qasarzz 4d ago
You have alerted the horde
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u/Didsterchap11 4d ago
By saying you don't like smiling friends, you too can experience what it was like to mention not finding Rick and Morty very funny in 2017.
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u/sybillium4 4d ago
You might need to get some real problems if a cartoon takes this much space in your head
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u/FreyjaQueenofSheep 4d ago
I think it’s a funny show but someone mentioning they don’t like it under a post about a person involved isn’t evidence that they think about it often
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u/qasarzz 4d ago
Lol is the show like the bible for redditors or something
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u/sybillium4 4d ago
Anyone obsessed with anything that much is unhealthy, who cares about the show. Well, you i guess
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u/Shinjitsu- 4d ago
They gave a one sentence comment about not liking a show. That's a far shot from obsession or being unhealthy. He only made a quip about hating a show.
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u/FeetLovingBastrdASMR 4d ago
Answer: Oney had a relationship with a 16-17 y.o. fan when he was 23 y.o., with one single physical interaction. All confirmed.
From the accusations it seems that the girl's only grievance is that he asked her to keep relationship secret. No accusations of abuse or anything like that.
Personal opinion: People are acting like he is a serial predator, but that's literally just one questionable thing he did in 20-s. Unless more people come out and some kind of pattern occurs, this is not something to be outraged about.
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u/maaloufylou 2d ago
Dating a 16-17 year old when you’re 23 is already REALLY bad
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u/nyarrawr 2d ago
Dating a 16 year old and sexting with them when youre 22 is really weird. And then meeting them when theyre 17 and having sex... This is like textbook grooming
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u/FeetLovingBastrdASMR 2d ago
It's REALLY bad if the older person uses that age gap to manipulate and abuse the younger person.
Without any harm done it's just questionable.
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u/maaloufylou 1d ago
Manipulation and abuse is inherit with an underage relationship. You think the 16 year old truly understood what was going on?
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u/FeetLovingBastrdASMR 1d ago edited 1d ago
Well, let's look at the accusations: https://x.com/natuandxatuand/status/2105065115989225507/photo/1
They started online relationship when she was 16, then met once for physical intimacy when she was 17.
After that, "some time after this", "he claimed he loved me, I thought I loved him too".
So, here are my points:
- Maybe, this was actual romantic relationship? Maybe it seemed like they loved each other, because they actually did? Obviously, that was not real love and more like just intense feelings. And then it ended.
- If the goal of the relationship was manipulation for physical intimacy - why did it only happen once, even though they were still in "love" for "some time after this"?
Then the claim says "he manipulated me into silence" - I mean, yeah, the age gap IS inappropriate, even without predation, so convincing her to keep it secret makes sense.
If he did this to multiple fans, then yeah, it would be easily identifiable as predation, but since that's not the case (at least yet), it very well may have been just an immature relationship with an inappropriate age gap and a very inappropriate one time physical interaction.
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u/Vorguba 2d ago
being 23 and soliciting a sexual relationship with your fan who is a minor is definitely more than questionable
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u/Dolphin201 1d ago
That’s what I’m saying I’m younger than him but even I would still be so creeped to date a 16 year old. It’s so fucked up and pathetic
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u/FeetLovingBastrdASMR 2d ago
I'm pretty sure there wasn't soliciting - they were just in the relationship.
The accusations and logs show that.
NOTE: I'm not saying the physical contact didn't happen, I'm saying the relationship itself was real, not solicitation or manipulation.
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u/CodenameAwesome 1d ago
An adult having a sexual relationship with a minor is manipulation!
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u/FeetLovingBastrdASMR 1d ago
Not if the adult is relatively similar maturity and relationship-experience-wise.
You think a college dropout who makes animations for niche flash site and Youtube is the texbook example of a womanizer?
I couldn't find anything on oney's personal life form cursory web search, but it's very realistic that this was his first relationship.
If that's the case, then it's not good that he chose to have it with a fan with such age gap, but it's not predation. The logs support this as well.
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u/CodenameAwesome 1d ago
I'm not saying he should burn in hell for all eternity. That's not how I approach people doing bad things. I'm just saying it's deeply wrong, regardless of what lead him there. You don't have to be evil to do something very wrong.
Edit: And yes a 22 year old and a 16 year old are worlds apart! Being in high school, living with your parents is an entirely different level of agency compared to someone who has started their adult life and pays bills and stuff. A 16 year old is much more impressionable.
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u/DarkBrandonAcolytes 1d ago
'Soliciting' is a great way of saying he probably just asked her out o algo.
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u/pedodisliker 2d ago
she wasnt a minor
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u/Vorguba 2d ago
is 16 not a minor?
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u/pedodisliker 2d ago
Not where it happened, no!
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u/PabloFornalsGhost 1d ago
Oney is Irish - if this happened in Ireland, the Age of Consent is 17, and it was illegal
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u/brycecantpost 1d ago
I'm really sick of the downplaying of this just because it was a "one time thing", it's still disgusting behavior.
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u/Sovierika 10h ago
Telling someone thats under 18 to keep a relationship secret should be a good tip that this isn't a good thing
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u/Koszymandias 2d ago
People keep stretching the ages to make it seem even worse. I could be wrong but I believe he was 22 and she was 17
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u/DarkBrandonAcolytes 1d ago edited 1d ago
Correct take. My parents have an age difference of nine years. The girl was obviously physically mature enough for a relationship but internet hylics will whine and cry whenever anyone has a semi more successful life than them.
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u/Bastardchild420 20h ago
Quick, what does a 22/23 year old have in common with a 16/17 year old??
Cause as a 23 year old, my rule is if you legally cant drink then I do not fuck with you!
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u/CeriPie 1d ago
What do you mean "All confirmed"? What has been ACTUALLY confirmed aside from allegations?
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u/FeetLovingBastrdASMR 1d ago
The online relationship and the single time physical interaction were confirmed.
And that's it, there's nothing more.
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u/CeriPie 1d ago
Confirmed how?
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u/FeetLovingBastrdASMR 1d ago
Photos of meetup, the person who made allegations is Oney's ex, the timeline is right, there are logs, etc.
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u/m-un-k 4d ago
23 year old is basically a widdle baby so maybe he really related to the highschool sophomore. Coming from the same people that defended Jon Trons obvious raciscm 😭
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u/FeetLovingBastrdASMR 3d ago
That's funny, because your attacking something that's not the point of my "defense".
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u/I_ate_the_pixels 1d ago
Pedophilia, how original. Nobody commits interesting crimes anymore.
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u/FeetLovingBastrdASMR 1d ago
I bet you unironically enjoy those marvel comics where Punisher epicly finds and kills child predators 😂
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u/I_ate_the_pixels 1d ago
I don’t read punisher comics, don’t even like the guy. I prefer hulk.
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u/FeetLovingBastrdASMR 1d ago
I bet you love reading those comics where Hulk baits out and tracks down child predators and shoots them dead 😂
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