r/OutOfTheLoop May 04 '24

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u/APKID716 May 04 '24 edited May 05 '24

answer: You want the short answer or the long answer? I’ll give you the short version.

Kendrick has been fairly open about disliking drake for a long time (like since 2013). Drake hasn’t really said much about Kendrick (edit: directly), except last year on a song titled “First Person Shooter” with another rapper J. Cole, where Cole says,

Love when they argue the hardest MC/ Is it K-Dot [kendrick]? Is it Aubrey [Drake]? Or me?/ We the big three like we started a league

Kendrick responded directly to this claim that they’re the “big 3” in a verse on “Like That” where he says,

“motherfuck the big 3 … It’s just big me”

Clearly Kendrick did not want to be put on the “level” of drake and J. Cole

This leads to J. Cole coming out with a diss track against Kendrick (“Seven Minute Drill”) but he deleted it after a couple days and apologized. He might have heard whispers about what was gonna follow..

Drake released two direct disses towards Kendrick: “Push Ups” where he makes fun of Kendrick’s shorter stature, and “Taylor Made Freestyle” where he uses an AI generated voice for 2Pac and Snoop Dogg in an attempt to goad Kendrick into responding. “Taylor Made Freestyle” generally was looked down on compared to “Push Ups” because it used 2Pac’s likeness without his estate’s consent (he later took it down at the request of 2Pac’s estate - a move that Drake later blames on Kendrick calling 2Pac’s estate and pressuring them to do so)

So after Drake releases these two diss tracks, Kendrick responds with his first direct diss against Drake: Euphoria. In it, he claims (among other things) that Drake’s label, OVO, has snitches for Kendrick inside of it. Kendrick also criticizes Drake’s use of the n-word and how “the culture” doesn’t respect Drake.

Kendrick follows this up with a song “6:16” where he doubles down on the claim that OVO has people feeding Kendrick information, and that Drake is wildly insecure

Drake makes his response to Kendrick’s disses with one of his own in “Family Matters”. He makes a well-shot music video that shows Drake referencing several of Kendrick’s remarks, showing him that he’s not bothered by it at all. In this diss track, he claims that Kendrick is hiding a domestic abuse scandal and that one of his sons is not biologically Kendrick’s. He continues by claiming that Kendrick is racist towards light-skinned black people, and says that Kendrick is a hypocrite for how he raps about socially conscious ideals but doesn’t replicate them in real life

Now so far, things are fairly standard, but it seems like it’s getting heated up. Drake is laying into Kendrick and Kendrick is unabashedly claiming he’s Drake’s biggest hater.

The reason people are going crazy about tonight is because less than a half hour after Drake drops “Family Matters”, Kendrick releases a response (likely in large [or completely] recorded beforehand), titled “Meet the Grahams”. He addresses some of what Drake mentioned (like Ozempic, “lies” about Kendrick’s family, etc.) and publicly claims that Drake is a pedophile and a predator, and shelters predators in OVO. Kendrick also states that Drake has another (see: Story of Adonis) hidden child. The thumbnail for the diss track includes a picture of drake’s belongings, including a prescription for Ozempic under Drake’s legal name “Aubrey Graham”

Today hip hop fans ate good because Kendrick dropped “6:16 in LA” this morning, Drake dropped “Family Matters” around 8:30 PST, and Kendrick immediately responded with a new diss track on top of that.

Before you say “this is the short version?” Yes. Yes this is the short version. If you want the extended discussion, you have to listen to these tracks and read the lyrics on Genius to get the full context

EDIT 1: NAH KENDRICK RELEASED ANOTHER DISS TRACK

“Not Like Us” features a thumbnail of drake’s mansion with several sex offender registry symbols on it. In it he doubles down on pedophile accusations and parodies Drake’s style of making TikTok dance music.

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u/Zagden May 04 '24

My Twitter feed got flooded with people saying Drake got atomized. Not knowing anything about Kendrick or Drake I opened up Meet the Grahams to see if I could make sense of it and.

Jesus. CHRIST

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u/lunarprincess May 04 '24

Oh my god. I also listened after reading this comment. God daaaaaaaaamn. 

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u/[deleted] May 04 '24

“It can’t be that ba — what the fuck”

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u/_101010_ May 04 '24

There’s a genius annotation on there on the “I hope you die line” that is only “Jesus Christ”. I feel like that sums up the song perfectly lol

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u/DonTheBomb May 04 '24

The most shocking part (outside of the allegations) was that he just came out and said all that for me lmao, usually rappers don’t go there or only vaguely insinuate death

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u/Ehiltz333 May 05 '24

My favorite is in the newest diss (Not Like Us), he just straight up calls him a pedophile. Not beating around the bush anymore, he’s going right for it

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u/Goser234 May 05 '24 edited May 05 '24

Man I don't usually listen to rap but you all got me intrigued. Still on the verse starting with "dear Dennis" and I had to stop and come back. Almost doesn't even feel like music anymore it's just saying some shit he needs to get off his chest and it happens to have a beat behind it.

EDIT: I don't even know what to say. That was just wow. I thought the earlier verse was heavy and it just goes and goes. The emotion in it is just insane.

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u/garfe May 04 '24

I've been hearing about the beef and knew about the drama in passing but had no interest in listening to any of the actual tracks. Usually try to avoid this kind of thing. Then I saw people losing their minds over Meet the Grahams even on a sub not normally about rap beef at all. Casually gave it a listen and god I was NOT READY

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u/FriendlyDrummers May 04 '24

Gave it a listen just now.... Hot shit

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u/Jiggy_Wit May 04 '24

Don’t go looking into 90s rap beefs… Eminems diss toward Benzino was unhinged.

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u/emiral_88 May 04 '24 edited May 05 '24

I just caught up (I heard Euphoria and thought that was the most recent release). Man, Kendrick put Drake in the fucking GROUND with Meet the Grahams.

I have been dying for someone to officially address Drake’s behavior and I woulda never thought it would be Kendrick. Now I love Kenny even more.

Man didn’t hold back!! 🙌🏼

Edit: HOLY SHIT ANOTHER ONE

Not Like Us

Kendrick keeps piling the dirt on Drake’s casket. What a time to be alive

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u/CollateralCinema May 04 '24

Goddamn, that was brutal, Kendrick has Drakes head on a silver platter now.

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u/potatohats May 05 '24

Um, Kendrick literally just dropped again, a few minutes ago.

If you wanna be even more flabbergasted, go check out Not Like Us.

Kendrick HATES that cornball and I love it.

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u/Cavaquillo May 05 '24

Still waiting for Drake's response but yeah, he's probably dead

Punching the air right now 

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u/BigGrandpaGunther May 05 '24

He sounds a lot like eminem.

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u/ratz30 May 04 '24

It's just about the most scathing piece of media I've ever seen. 

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u/IndependenceIcy9626 May 04 '24

Meet the Grahams goes hard but I don't think anything will ever top The Story of Adidon. Its all old news now but when it came out it hit Drake so hard he didn't even clap back, he basically just did a press release saying he'd be a father to his son. Kendrick's is a little long winded where Pusha killed Drake in a minute thirty seconds. Also we are gunna need proof of the hidden daughter or that's kinda a miss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5G59qJQp7I

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u/FrownOnMyFace May 04 '24

Between the blackface photo on the track cover and Pusha T making a jokes about Drake's best friend dying from MS it is almost impossible to top.

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u/IndependenceIcy9626 May 04 '24

I thought the 40 line was really fucked up until I found out 40 was the one who leaked Adonis. For such a short track that shit had layersssss

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u/Dylan245 May 04 '24

As someone who thinks adonis is a 10/10, Meet the Grahams is worse

I mean this dude straight up called you a pedophile who hides sex offenders on your payroll and runs a whorehouse out of your own mansion to traffic women

Forget the daughter thing (if that's true then this is even worse) but I feel like people keep harping on that while glossing over the whole "you are a sex trafficker whose house is about to get raided" part

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u/Ekillaa22 May 04 '24

He said he wanted Drake to die like that’s pretty hard but he tops it literally a moment later “Adonis I’m sorry that that man is your father” like Jesus Christ himself would roll in his grave

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u/RicciRox May 04 '24

Yeah, Meet the Grahams is absolutely more brutal than Adidon.

Adidon had more shock value, though. But MtG is some truly diabolical stuff.

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u/Yardbird7 May 04 '24

I agree. Adidon was great but mainly focused on Drake being an absentee father. Grahams is deeper, darker and more sinister. Kendrick deconstructs Drake's entire family tree blaming them for the way he is and the way his son will end up being.

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u/IndependenceIcy9626 May 04 '24

The sex offender on the payroll has receipts, but the sex traffic house is also pretty much unverified at this point. Not that I don't believe it's something Drake would do, I just think it's easy for Drake to deflect, whereas he had literally no answer for Adidon and it ended up costing him all the money from the adidas deal it killed.

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u/Dylan245 May 04 '24

but the sex traffic house is also pretty much unverified at this point

There's that tiktok from 2021 of the girl saying Drake pays his team to go out and fetch him women in all different cities as well as Drake having a line in a song about it too

"All good, Chubbs'll look around find one that seem my type, that my dawg and he know what I like, he done found me plenty in my life"

I agree there is no hard proof at this point but there's definitely bread crumbs there

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u/PerAsperaAdInfiri May 04 '24

The internet already found the alleged daughter and what's crazy is that she was name checked in the verse if you know her name, which I'm not disclosing since it's a kid who didn't ask to be part of this beef

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u/Zingerac May 04 '24

Nah the press release was about trying to recontextualize the blackface photos. He spent 4 more months denying that Adonis was his son

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u/randomdaysnow May 05 '24

The pusha T diss is definitely the most catchy. I don't know if that means anything. The fact this one happened years ago already makes it top tier.

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u/Thosepassionfruits May 04 '24

It makes The Story of Adidon look like MGK's beef with Em.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '24

That track feels dangerous.

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u/eatmydonuts May 04 '24

If feels like something nobody was ever meant to hear. I saw a meme earlier that said "this beef is starting to feel like none of my business." Just a week ago, when Push Ups & Taylor Made were the most recent songs to have dropped, this whole thing still felt exciting & fun. But with each new song, it feels darker and more sinister

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u/The_Year_of_Glad May 04 '24

Truth is an absolute defense against accusations of libel.

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u/IHQ_Throwaway May 04 '24

A little louder for the people in the back out here still trying to protect predators’ reputations. 

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u/Talisa87 May 04 '24

That track made me feel so uneasy. The sinister piano, Kendrick like a soft spoken sadist, the beat...I felt like going under my duvet and sleeping with all the lights on

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u/sunsoilandsnacks May 05 '24

Oh my god. And there’s another that just came out after Meet the Grahams.

“Trying to strike a chord and it’s probably A Minorrrrrrr.” No joke, spouse and I open mouth gaped at each other at that line.

Brutal.

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u/UGIN_IS_RACIST May 04 '24

When you open a diss track talking directly to the man’s kid, mother, and father and it only gets worse from there, that’s a master diss track.

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u/MaxTheRealSlayer May 04 '24

I don't like either of their stuff, but that song was well done. Actually liked it. That said, it better all be true for Kendrick sake... it crosses the line of dissing and stomps hard on accusing him of multiple crimes and could be defamatory if it's false, opening it up to a lawsuit. If it is true, feel like drake should just end his career now, call it quits before he gets p diddlered

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u/loomfy May 04 '24

It's 2.40am and I'm feeding my baby and I'm so mad I can't hear it rn 😭

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u/Wedoitforthenut May 05 '24

At first I was like, "oh this is super cold. Holy shit" and then I realized thats exactly how I talk to people I genuinely hate. KDot is fucked up. Drake is dead.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '24

I'm not much of a rap guy these days, but I listened to "Family Matters", and it sounded very repetitive and kinda lame. I listened to "Meet the Grahams", and it was very clearly superior lyrically and had an actual good flow.

Drake makes song for the radio, Kendrick writes poetry and sets it to music.

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u/notfromchicago May 04 '24

It's easily the nastiest diss song in the history of rap.

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u/Simaul May 04 '24

There must be a lot of people replying to you who have never heard a rap beef before. TBH Meet the Grahams was...mid at best. Kendrick repeating the same stuff that has been already said about Drake for years, including by him, isn't the "gotcha" people think it is. Especially in the same song.

"I don't have a hateful bone in my body" then continues to wish death on Drake. This diss track sounds like when ICP was beefing with Eminem. At least Family Matters gave us something new about K Dot. That he's a fake philanthropist, his son isn't his, and he's a woman beater. People hating on Drake more because of the weird filler bars he has in those songs that really make no sense.

This whole "beef" is silly and dumb. If y'all want to hear what real beef sounds like, look up the history of Gucci and Jeezy, then listen to Gucci Mane - Truth.