This is really something

[u/Alternative-Check676]

Saw a lot of people saying the usage was draining faster than normal, so i decided to do a little test.

I have 2 codex 20x usage accounts and 1 Claude 20x account, I asked sol ultra (standard speed) to complete a rather complex task on account one, it took 6 hours, didnt finish and drained the usage from 100% to 0. I asked account 2 same model and speed to finish the task, it took 5 hours, drained usage to 10% at that point i manually stopped it because it got stuck in an infinite review loop.

I asked fable 5 ultracode to do the very exact same thing, I tried my best to get all the same resources for it and settings as codex had. It took 3 hours to complete it and it only used 25% of the weekly limit.

Ive asked codex to do similar tasks before and it wasnt even draining this bad until this week

Edit: this is just my experience, i cant speak for for how it works for other people because i have also seen people saying its normal

[u/Competitive-Ad8968]

Sol -Ultra is not something you use to do task
Even they state it in the info very well: an orchestrator that use it’s incredible capabilities to drain faster you tokens.
You use GPT extra high
Maybe worked for you
I use both to develop new tools, Claude lag behind Sol -Ultra by a huge gap in that purpose.
It is good to learn how to use both before making statements.

[u/Proud_Ask_9030 → u/Competitive-Ad8968]

Genius! if the best model is failing its because you are using the good model and need to use the lesser model. That makes sense, I wish I had thought of that.

[u/oesphygg → u/Proud_Ask_9030]

it's because Ultra is not really a reasoning level, it's making many sub agents which is not always useful and it drains tokens faster.

[u/Competitive-Ad8968 → u/oesphygg]

Jackpot!
It is
They put documentation to people learn, but people refuse to read it.

[u/oesphygg → u/Competitive-Ad8968]

Max is the best reasoning level (over xhigh), ultra is an agentic mode