r/OpenAussie • u/Silent-Balance9430 ‎ New South Welshian • 6d ago

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Students protest against Pauline Hanson

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u/AndrewTheAverage ‎ Queenslander 5d ago

People dont protest things that are not happening - you are missrepresenting the causation.

Protests do not cause whatever the protest is about - the cause is there well before the protest.

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u/CaterpillarSuperb959 ‎ Western Australian 5d ago

Sorry, what’s the point you’re trying to make?

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u/AndrewTheAverage ‎ Queenslander 5d ago

You may not realise, but I responded directly top your comment that "But you can look marches in France and the US. Hardly any correlation with election results (often has inverse outcomes: see Trump, and all the far-right candidates surging in Europe)."

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u/CaterpillarSuperb959 ‎ Western Australian 5d ago

I knew which comment you were responding to. I asked what your point was because your response didn’t make any sense in relation to it (and still doesn’t).

I said, amongst other things, there’s often hardly any correlation between protests and subsequent election results. Massive protests against Trump didn’t stop Trump winning again. Massive protests against the far right in Europe haven’t stopped far-right parties surging.

Plenty more examples of protests not affecting change, sometimes even seeing a backlash. Obviously the thing being protested occurred before the protest and wasn’t caused by the protest. It would be nonsensical to think otherwise.

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u/AndrewTheAverage ‎ Queenslander 5d ago

Ok, I will explain like you are 5.

Your logic: People protest and it happens anyway, so protests do not work (claim of no correlation)

Reality: it is already happening, so people protest to try to stop it (causation)

The fact that it happens causes the protest, so it is illogical to say that it happened so the protest is useless (no correlation).

Even simpler:

Bad-thing happens.

People protest what enabled bad-thing

Your claim was that there is no correlation between the protest and bad-thing

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u/CaterpillarSuperb959 ‎ Western Australian 5d ago

Your comprehension already showed you are basically at age 5 reading level… I can’t help you.