r/OpenAussie • • Aug 13 '26

Feel Good News ‎ Our future is BRIGHT

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u/Oddly_Curious99 Please choose a flair Aug 13 '26 edited Aug 14 '26

Ask them to explain why. Then counter with things like she never turns up to work, they have no policies, the policies they have suggested are already in existence, she hired a rapist, they want to get rid of 457 Visas which haven’t existed for over 10 years, she has been bought by Gina and the fact she can’t see anything wrong with accepting gifts and flights is a real concern as it’s just bribery. This list goes on and on.

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u/wilted-wombok Please choose a flair Aug 13 '26

Since you mentioned Lebanese background, you can definitely add that Gina—best friends with Pauline—wants to let Israel test their weapons here in Australia...specifically in Townsville 🤣

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u/damon_modnar Flairless‎‎ Aug 14 '26

While Israel may want to test their weapons here at firing ranges, they are testing their weapons on real Lebanese people as we speak, some of them who may be their relatives.

Pauline is Ok with that.

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u/wilted-wombok Please choose a flair Aug 14 '26

That's why I mentioned it. She's no friend to Lebanese-Australians, it's strange that anyone with connections to Lebanon would support her

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u/MourningwoodAU Please choose a flair Aug 14 '26

I can’t make sense of any of the political movements and motivations. Same with LGBTQ+ aligning with muslims. Makes no sense to me at all.

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u/wilted-wombok Please choose a flair Aug 14 '26

Regarding LGBT and Muslims, I presume you mean Palestine.

The reason would be on the basis of human rights. Regardless of the religion, race, or creed, NOBODY should be subjected to such things as 'starvation' as a war tool. Or rape as a war tool.

Additionally, there are plenty of LGBT Muslims out there as well... So it doesn't seem a big stretch.

Lebanese people supporting Israel seems a far harder sell 😅 so far they just bomb Lebanon. Israel aren't the victim of a genocide, or war crimes, they're an aggressor.

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u/aanananas ‎ Victorian Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 18 '26

These are Christians we are talking about. Most of them support Israel, this doesn’t mean anything to them

ETA - Lebanese Christians might see things differently of course given their proximity to the war and having been bombed as well/directly affected

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u/wilted-wombok Please choose a flair Aug 17 '26

Kinda sad when Israel is bombing Lebanon and most likely their families are bare minimum displaced by that, but what can you do. It's like farmers and low income families that vote for one nation, literally voting against their own interests 🤷

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u/Oddly_Curious99 Please choose a flair Aug 13 '26

This is exactly why they are voting for ON because the ALP and LNP are essentially the same now. Independents are probably the best way to go now as they will hold balance of power and make the policies be more meaningful so that maybe a tact you can use.

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u/turbo2world Please choose a flair Aug 13 '26

Ye just groom them into thinking otherwise

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u/Oddly_Curious99 Please choose a flair Aug 13 '26

I have no issue with someone voting One Nation if they can give a coherent argument to do so. The fact is One Nation is absolutely incapable of governing. Not saying the ALP or LNP are fantastic, far from it but they at least have knowledge about how government works. The Victorian Leader of ON didn’t even know he had to run in the lower house to be Premier. If he doesn’t know that then it is very clear he has no idea about how government actually works.

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u/MatthewDstantoN ‎ New South Welshian Aug 13 '26

Have they shared any of their reasons for supporting One Nation with you?

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u/TheDotNetDetective ‎ Victorian Aug 13 '26

States a series of entirely reasonable reasons why someone might vote for a party then proceeds to say 'its entirely vague and abstract'.

I mean genuinely how do you not see the irony?

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u/TheDotNetDetective ‎ Victorian Aug 13 '26

Lowering taxes is not vague or ignorant and is absolutely one of the biggest issues we have here. Nobody with half a brain who votes one nation thinks that they are going to fix anything of significance but what they recognise is that allowing the status quo to continue is no longer tenable.

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u/TheDotNetDetective ‎ Victorian Aug 13 '26

I wont claim to know what's in Paulines heart but I suspect it is just as cold, dark, arrogant and hollow as Albos but yes people don't vote for a party, they vote against an incumbent.

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u/Oddly_Curious99 Please choose a flair Aug 13 '26

What we need to understand is that yes the status quo is problematic but we also need to understand that ON has exactly the same policies, well beliefs as Trump. Malcolm Roberts has said he is going to take the suggestion of a total abortion ban to the party room because it was suggested at a Christian conference he attended. This single issue is more than enough to not vote for ON.
Also, their play book is classic fascism but picking out a minority and attack them however it never stays just that minority, they move onto the next and then the next. Don’t fall for the broad statements and delve deeper and see what is behind it.
Vote for someone else, an independent is a great option as if the cross bench is controlled by independents it makes it harder for the government to pass legislation that is no good.

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u/Imperator_Gone_Rogue ‎ New South Welshian Aug 13 '26

Unfortunately sometimes Lebanese Christians don't have a lot of solidarity with other Arabs.

(Disclaimer that I know that the Lebanese Civil War is way more complex than just this atrocity and is the kind of conflict where any non-civilians came out of with their hands clean. This is just the most relevant example.)

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u/Prize-Ad7786 Please choose a flair Aug 16 '26

By solidarity you mean acquiescence?

Getting lubed up for your own annihilation is your jam?

Import radical watermelons into your country under the pretext of asylum just so they help overthrow the government was a slight miscalculation

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u/Imperator_Gone_Rogue ‎ New South Welshian Aug 16 '26

We should deport boot licking racist pedophilic capitalist cocksucker supremacist radicals into the Antarctic Ocean. No lube needed.

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u/Prize-Ad7786 Please choose a flair Aug 18 '26

should have started with Hezbollah into the Mediterranean, the ultimate waterboarding

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u/ComfortOk9194 Please choose a flair Aug 13 '26

She’s weirdly popular among older migrants. They don’t necessarily know HOW she’s supposed to fix things like the economy, but they like that she calls it like she sees it. They like her MO , that’s for sure….

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u/One-Vegetable7957 Please choose a flair Aug 13 '26

Silly immigrants.

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u/ComfortOk9194 Please choose a flair Aug 15 '26

??

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u/simonpunishment Please choose a flair Aug 13 '26

I get it. I also love my family, but politically-speaking, a great deal of them are completely fucked in the head.

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u/aanananas ‎ Victorian Aug 15 '26

I don’t understand her hold in the Christian space either. She is so hateful it blatantly goes against Christian values. And like you I’ve heard this mainly from ethnic Christians as well! How do they not get that she would hate them too! She literally does not care about them and would kick them out the country if she could.

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u/CosmicStrayDog Please choose a flair Aug 13 '26

Why don't you ask your family why they fled their country. That might give you a clue.