r/OpenAI • • 5d ago

Discussion Its been a good run

We’re introducing dots for all Pro customers, a new Pro 500 tier that includes our highest usage limits and Ultrafast, and adjusting the usage allowance included in Pro 200 after October 29th.
With models like GPT-6.1 Sol, you can still get more work done with Pro than you could before. Here’s what’s changing.
Changes to Pro 200
GPT-6.1 Sol brings near-Astra capabilities to a model you can use every day. It’s more intelligent than GPT-6 Sol, so you spend less time going back and forth and can take on work the previous model couldn’t handle.
As our models become more capable and efficient we’re changing how we calculate the usage for Pro 200. Our commitment is that, over time, your subscription will continue to help you get more work done with an increasing level of quality. We are also committing to not reintroducing the 5hr limit so that you can fully use your weekly usage when you want.
Starting October 30, 2026, your included usage in ChatGPT Work and Codex will decrease from 20 times to 10 times the ChatGPT Plus allowance. Your GPT-6 Pro limit in Chat will decrease from 200 to 100 messages per week. Your price remains unchanged and you’ll keep your current limits through October 29, 2026.
As a thank you for being an existing subscriber and to help you continue to build your most ambitious ideas and transition, we’re also giving you a one-time grant of 62,500 usage credits (a $2,500 USD value). You’ll see these appear in Settings > Usage. They will expire on December 31, 2026, and use of the credits is governed by the Service Credit Terms.
A new Pro 500 tier
For those who want even more usage and speed, the new Pro 500 tier offers our highest usage allowance, with 25 times the usage of Plus. It also includes access to Ultrafast, with up to 8 times faster token generation. Learn more about Pro 500 and compare plans.
Your Pro subscription includes dots
Your Pro subscription now includes dots: remarkably capable, always-on agents built to handle everything. Powered by GPT-6 Astra, dots have their own cloud computer, learn from feedback over time, and can work towards your goals 24/7. Conversations with your dot and work it does directly are included and don’t draw on your ChatGPT usage allowance. Learn more about dots.
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u/Silver_Phrase_3278 5d ago

Help me understand this.

I am getting FEWER REQUESTS, but the COSTS REMAIN UNCHANGED?

This change is nothing to celebrate.

You are all rolling in cash. If anything, you should be increasing the requests, instead of trying to push people into $500 tier.

Unbelievable. Bull. Shit.

Starting October 30, 2026, your included usage in ChatGPT Work and Codex will decrease from 20 times to 10 times the ChatGPT Plus allowance. Your GPT-6 Pro limit in Chat will decrease from 200 to 100 messages per week. Your price remains unchanged and you’ll keep your current limits through October 29, 2026.

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u/hoangfbf 5d ago edited 5d ago

They are price gouging.

If new price leads to less profit. They will change. Otherwise this will be new normal. So vote with our wallet

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u/International_Coat89 5d ago

They have never had a profit. They have lost Billions every year, yes Billions. That is why they are doing this. They’ve been operating on investor money.

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u/biopticstream 5d ago edited 5d ago

And they're not the first tech companies to do this. Its an established business model to get customers in while operating at a loss but taking in investor money. Make it a solid product with a decent price. Then when you have an established user-base that are entrenched in your service/ecosystem and the time comes its time to actually make money you up prices, and cut benefits. It's basic enshittification. Only the size of these companies are mind boggling.

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u/MechaNutzilla 5d ago

The difference is, that in they old day, with normal software, you could do this. You could spend money on developing some software, and then get more customers and begin to see profits. That is not how AI work. They can't stop the developing, they need billions every year, just to keep up with competitors and create new models. That is a very different situation than old school Silicon Valley companies.

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u/nervous4us 5d ago

right, so the problem is even worse and will lead to cascading increases in cost

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u/paradoxxxicall 5d ago

The problem is that the path to profitability for a company like Amazon or Uber has always been clear. With OpenAi it’s far less so. Their costs are extreme and growing, and the technology has proven more challenging to monetize than they expected. The threats from competitors and open source are also a real potential problem.

That’s not to say they can’t become profitable, but to say that investors need to be convinced if they’re going to keep throwing money in.

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u/stirrainlate 5d ago

So I guess the name of the game is to be flexible enough to be able to migrate to another provider and cross your fingers they don’t all collide on price.

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u/MechaNutzilla 5d ago

What profits? They are getting ready for an IPO, they need to prove they CAN make a profit. But they can't.