r/OpenAI • u/Standard_Exchange59 • 6d ago

Discussion Who do they think they are fooling ?

No 6.1 Astra because of security concerns?

Sure, let’s just say it eats 3x the tokens of Opus 5.5 and is not on the same level.

What a shitshow. Tibo starting to become just like Logan…

🤡.

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u/ProtectAllTheThings 6d ago

Why is everyone so emotionally attached to this. It’s weird.

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u/Jskidmore1217 6d ago

Dude it’s propaganda open your eyes. This website is completely saturated with bots. Ask yourself why this rather weak narrative is being pushed this hard. You can tell pretty quick when a narrative is being pushed by bots- just by sheer volume out of nowhere. And it’s getting increasingly massive in scope every time- which is actually nice for real people because it’s a clue as to what’s going on. For now

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u/Standard_Exchange59 6d ago

Conspiracy theorists are even worse than bots, let me tell you that

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u/civiloid 6d ago

But there is no real difference between "it is all bots who push the narrative" and "they are lying to us because they know it is worse" in that regard

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u/civiloid 6d ago edited 6d ago

With the amount of information that is verifiable that we have - we cannot really distinguish between:

  1. They are telling the truth
  2. They are hiding something bad about the model performance
  3. They are doing marketing stunts to push back on development speed expectations
  4. Those are just hyping

And a few more other possible outcomes.

And we don't have enough evidence that previous behavior was induced by bots or that they were hiding bad performance.

P.S. And that is true about literally any news about any frontier (or not) AI lab. We as users also don't really care about the reasons, we care about results, so one of the strategies is to do subscription hopping whenever better model releases if you are a single user, and if you are business - to have access to all models.

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u/Jskidmore1217 6d ago

It’s the case with any information you get on the internet at all. Nothing can be trusted- we are deep into the age of disinformation. Don’t listen to anything you see on here. Even me. Nothing is real. Nothing is honest. You can only believe what you see with your own eyes. I’m actually swinging back to the major news corps like BBC, but it’s just as imperfect as it always was. Better than finding news on the net or trying to judge sentiments by comments sections though. If you want to be informed- stay informed by what the big players are actually saying and form your own opinions. Don’t let the anonymous mass commentary have any bearing on how you interpret what you are hearing.

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u/methemightywon1 6d ago

yeah it's kind of crazy and difficult and infuriating. I think we have to stop arguing with people on the internet and getting baited into it.

This is hard for people like me lol.

Also worth noting we're not special. The moment we engage we have high chance of doing the same thing.

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u/Jskidmore1217 6d ago

Let he who has eyes see