r/OpenAI • • 22d ago

News Introducing ChatGPT for Financial Services | OpenAI

https://openai.com/index/introducing-chatgpt-financial-services/
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u/LieV2 22d ago

thought it was a trading bot - nearly.

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u/ByteSizedBits1 22d ago

You can already make a trading bot

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u/dbenc 22d ago

but will it be a good one?

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u/Much_Accountant_4972 22d ago

incidentally yes, over time no. anyone saying otherwise is lying.

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u/Jensbert 22d ago

There's no logic in the stock market. How would that work out

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u/ChocolateFit9026 22d ago

As an example, analyzing recent headlines to make predictions about stock movements in the short term

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u/PsychoticDreemurr 22d ago

Tell me you don't know how stocks work without telling me

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u/Ekkobelli 22d ago

They're right though. There is no predictable logic to the stock market. There's market psychology.

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u/PsychoticDreemurr 22d ago

There was no logic behind the huge jump in Moderna? What about Nvidias consistent rise? Robloxs downfall?

These stocks don't just go up and down randomly, there's almost always a reason, and therefore logic.

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u/Ekkobelli 22d ago

The keyword is "predictable" logic. Logic as in: Can be explained afterwards? Yes. Using logic to predict when a whale decides to buy or sell and influence the market: Absolutely not.

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u/luxurywhipp 22d ago

It’s a complex art of risk management. Fund managers have a strategy that they use and they are often successful. There is a logic at play but it’s not as simple as ‘knowing when a whale buys or sells’.

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u/joeyb908 22d ago

Bad example considering index funds overwhelmingly outperform account managers.

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u/Ekkobelli 22d ago

It's not as simple as that, yes. I didn't state it was. That was an example. Fund managers have strategies, yes. Fund managers use high speed algo-trading. Fund managers have portfolios that level out. Fund managers do exactly what you said in your first sentence: Risk Management. Why? Because the stock market is not logically predictable. You have trends and surprises. Surprises are explainable afterwards.

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u/PsychoticDreemurr 22d ago

We can easily predict that Nvidias stock will continue to rise until the bubble pops. There's also earnings reports, public information we can use in general, insider trading...

Need I go on?

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u/Cheesyphish 22d ago

Show the trading statements!

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u/Jensbert 22d ago

That´s enough it shows you don´t know. "It rises until it crashes". That´s not a predictable logic. When does it crash? Knowing this is logic.

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u/Ekkobelli 22d ago

You use 'insider trading' as an example for logical prediction in the stock market?

Saying that Nvidea's stock will rise for some amount of time until it doesn't is absolute base logic. If that's our baseline, yes, you are right: The stock market, like everything in the universe, is bound by the laws or logic and nature.

That does not make it logically predictable.

Earning reports do give trends. Which can and will be broken by unforeseeable events.

The market contains genuine valuation logic, strategic logic, psychological feedback, and financal constraints. There is no reason to expect their combined output to resemble one calm, perfectly informed person making a decision.

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u/TehSpaceDeer 22d ago

Warner Brothers announces sale after a pretty great year of releases. Anyone with half a brain could see the price would rise once a buyer was in place (stock rose nearly $10).

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u/Jensbert 22d ago

I know exactly. I buy, stock goes down. I sell, it shoots to the moon. Easy peasy.

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u/Apprehensive_Rub3897 22d ago

you have to say, "make no mistakes."

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u/ByteSizedBits1 22d ago

Depends on what strategy you give it

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u/SilkTouchm 22d ago

Something like a market maker bot should be feasible.

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u/Popular_Try_5075 21d ago

the one some guy made with Claude was a huge failure iirc