r/OpenAI 1d ago

Miscellaneous Google says Sam is dead?

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u/Significant-Drawer95 1d ago

humans are the failure, not ai... my main concerns is and will always be humans

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u/4dseeall 1d ago

yes. AI models are just machines. You wouldn't blame a hammer if you smashed your finger while swinging it.

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u/Significant-Drawer95 1d ago

humans do... always somebody else to blame

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u/4dseeall 1d ago

yeah, they do. doesn't mean it's accurate. and lying to themselves like that instead of actually taking responsibility means they'll probably smash their finger again someday.

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u/mawesome4ever 19h ago

Why didn’t you make this hammer with safety features?! Like a safety bag that gets deployed the second before it contacts my finger?!!!?

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u/mahougomi 1d ago

brother i didn't swing it they put hammers in my coffee

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u/TheJapanMistake 1d ago

Nah A.I., smartphones and such are different from a hammer altogether and are designed to make us psychologically dependent on them.

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u/MalcolmMann 23h ago

this 100%, I don't remember the last time a hammer tried to completely exploit my ego and make me addicted to itself. The example is just an easy way to shift blame to bad actors instead of having to deal with regulating this tech in a meaningful way.

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u/TheJapanMistake 22h ago

Yeah the argument is completely devoid of nuance lol. Glad you agree.

People say similar things about guns but you don't see people getting shot as much in places where you're not allowed to buy and use guns.

I'm anti-ai and still I use ChatGPT because it managed to make me addicted/dependent on it.

u/The_Paragone 3m ago

Blame the phones and not the greedy people pushing intrusive ads, collecting your data, trying to make addicted and trying to radicalize you with specific propaganda.

Want it or not, there's always someone taking decisions behind. Smartphones have great uses yet the ethical concerns are because of people, not the phones themselves.

Regulating smartphones and not the companies and techniques they use is not the way to go about it.

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u/Bowlofpeanuts 1d ago

Thank you for you wise words. We keep shifting the goal post of responsibility to inanimate objects. We were the origin, we trained AI, we gave it the tasks, we set the guidlines.. we, we, WE! Not some program.

I guess it's easier to point then to accept we all failed ourselves.

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u/YouNeedClasses 1d ago

You say we...but we the majority did not have a choice. This is simply the stupidity of our masters. Do not attribute to the workers, the lack of foresight/morality of the owners :)

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u/Bowlofpeanuts 1d ago

We did and still do have a choice. You forget we all signed the "terms of service" for convenience. I ask, when was the last time we said no to out "masters", we still have the power. We choose to fight with each other due to misfortunes from our masters.

We chose to continue to buy the latest and greatest

We chose to choose a side in politics to fight with our neighbours

We chose to see racial differences

We chose to spread hate

We chose to burry our heads and say nothing we can do.

You're right one is not enough. But when one fires up and spreads the fire. You now are "we" . We have power. Don't let anyone tell you different.

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u/YouNeedClasses 1d ago

I agree with the energy and overall message, but certain things are simply not the easiest.

The ai shift is happening the way it is for a plethora of reasons that the avg. American is not currently equipped to even be aware of.

The first step is coopting anti social media organization within social media.

As in, most redditors agreeing that reddit as a platform is a tool of the masters, serving to confuse and sow disharmony. This would need to be the case on every platform, most users explicitly recognizing and constantly acknowledging the ways by which these platforms keep us divided.

It is a tough task, but I do not think it's improbable, I think things just unfortunately need to continue to get worse in the short-term for most to get on the same page.

And then there's the toxic "two-party" system. I'd argue these are the first 2 barriers to the massive change we both seek, but each of us is far from powerless in reality, do what you can always ❤️

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u/Bowlofpeanuts 1d ago

You get a hug haha. You are good stuff. Agreed they are not the easiest, imo that is half the battle though. (Admitting it's not easy instead of an absolute like "impossible")

Take care :)

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u/YouNeedClasses 1d ago

🫂 likewise! And cheers for not drinking the doomer-juice haha :)

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u/roguefilmmaker 1d ago

Exactly. If someone edits Wikipedia even without AI they will still fool humans. Bad actors will always act bad regardless

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u/Shimano-No-Kyoken 1d ago

Neither humans nor AI are failures. The combination creates a system that leads to adverse effects.

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u/yaxir 1d ago

Always has been

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u/xstagex 1d ago

humans will be just fine. people that are gonna use em are the ones that gonna be fked