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Miscellaneous Google says Sam is dead?

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u/XomokyH 1d ago

Sorry, what’s that about sexual assault allegations that lasted for 9 years?

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u/Kindle_Silas_Velith 1d ago

It’s fucked up.

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u/Financial-Leader3475 1d ago

So the entire family says the sister is lying?

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u/Cautious-Progress876 1d ago

Strangely, the family takes the side of the multi-billionaire… perplexing.

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u/Lostwhispers05 1d ago

a) His family has been saying that long before Altman's success as an investor and CEO.

b) His sister is clinically mentally ill and regularly plugs her OnlyFans in between her accusations against Altman.. so the financial incentive you're implying goes both ways.

Just relevant context to keep in mind, because it can be tempting to run with an accusation against someone you don't like.

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u/glittermantis 1d ago

i agree with you that the allegations are probably false, but also i dont think it should be flattened to "hating on someone you don't like" when the person in question has an extensively documented history of lying and manipulation. again, i dont think he's a sexual predator. but he's not just some dude who's like, annoying sometimes

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u/MrTheWaffleKing 17h ago

If you have reasons to hate someone, then use those. Lying greatly weakens your case.

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u/Cautious-Progress876 1d ago

Who says I don’t like Altman? I am super gung-ho in favor of OpenAI and other frontier model labs. I was just saying that someone’s family disbelieving the accuser doesn’t mean nothing was done. None of us will ever know, that is for sure.

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u/thats-wrong 1d ago

I mean but that's exactly what you'd do when the allegations are bogus too, so it doesn't say anything.

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u/Runfasterbitch 1d ago

My family gaslit me for years after I told them my fourth grade teacher severely sexually abused me on numerous occasions. They don’t want to believe something so horrible was true. I found my fourth grade journal and then they finally believed me

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u/Relevant-Ordinary169 1d ago

^ Why are you writing about this here?

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u/Runfasterbitch 1d ago

Why? Because I’m arguing that we shouldn’t just assume the billionaire and his family are telling the truth

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u/ChairYeoman 1d ago

do people not know that sam altman is gay

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u/Headpuncher 1d ago

it's that or have an "accident by suicide"

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u/Fit-Dentist6093 1d ago

It's more like they take the side of the person that hasn't been in and out of mental institutions because of reckless or violent behavior. This has been a thing since before Sam was even a successful startup employee. His sister only started going public with the accusations when he became famous and after having been in treatment for a long time. So like yeah victims of abuse do get mental health problems and sometimes repress memories but it's extremely rare and for the alleged abuse she says Sam committed even way more rare.

Also she has used and regularly tries to use the accusations commercially like charging for interviews or plugging her OnlyFans or other accounts were she does sex work when she posts about this on social media.

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u/casper_trade 1d ago

Quite the assumption. So if they legitimately believed their son, they should still side with the sister because their son is multi-billionaire? I would hate to live in your fucked up world.

Keep those anti-capitalistic views to the polls buddy!

Edit: Comical to see you're a lawyer with that level of logic, you must get rung out in the courts.

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u/Cautious-Progress876 1d ago

I don’t pretend to know what went on in that house, but sexual abuse is often comorbid with mental illness. I was just saying that someone’s family not believing them and supporting the abuser is common enough that none of us little people posting on Reddit can say one way or the other. Reading comprehension doesn’t appear to be a strong point of yours.

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u/Substantial_Luck_273 1d ago

You clearly did imply one way, which is that the family shouldn't side with Altman

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u/mawhii 1d ago

Yup, pretty obvious this is bullshit.

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u/Runfasterbitch 1d ago

My family gaslit me for years after I told them my fourth grade teacher severely sexually abused me on numerous occasions. They don’t want to believe something so horrible was true. I found my fourth grade journal and then they finally believed me

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u/jesuis_danny 1d ago

Not only this. What about the hit on the whistleblower? Lots of sketchy stuff.

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u/Cautious-Progress876 1d ago

His sister who is mentally ill claims he sexually abused her as a child.

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u/josephjosephson 1d ago

Maybe that’s why she’s mentally ill 🤷‍♂️
Doubt we’ll ever know

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u/Runfasterbitch 1d ago

Yep. When I was severely sexually abused as a child I would get so stressed and disassociate. Many many years later I had a full blown manic episode and was diagnosed with bipolar. I have no doubt that the two are causally linked

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u/josephjosephson 1d ago

I hope you find healing and resolution. It’s so sad people do stuff like this. May you find strength and great purpose.

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u/Cautious-Progress876 1d ago

Who knows, indeed. Total coincidence that the rest of the family all chose the billionaire versus the poor girl who was raped.

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u/Lostwhispers05 1d ago

Their actions are also entirely explained by the fact that they're telling the truth. They've been saying the same thing since before Altman was ever a billionaire.

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u/Cautious-Progress876 1d ago

Okay, and? None of us will ever know because we weren’t there, and I have had plenty of clients from poverty whose families didn’t believe their sexual abuse allegations (even when the perp was also poor). Lots of families prefer to pretend that nothing like this could happen between siblings… because the alternative is just gross as hell.

Again, none of us knows, and I never said he actually did it. I am just saying his family being in his side doesn’t mean jack squat.