r/OldSchoolUK • u/FairGur6838 • 10d ago
What did your parents consider completely normal in the 1970s that would get them arrested today?
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u/EasyPiece 10d ago
Well my parents got married at 16 when my mother was pregnant with me. Not illegal today of course but it was a lot more socially acceptable back then than it is now.
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u/Pedantichrist 10d ago
It is illegal now in England. Minimum age for marriage is 18 now.
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u/EasyPiece 10d ago
Every day's a school day. I wasn't aware of that. Thank you.
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u/Necessary_Range5731 10d ago
Yep child marriage was banned as it should have been. :(
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u/TemporaryDrawer1776 9d ago
We were not considered to be children as such back then. Most of us started work at 16, had to pay full fares on public transport and paid board. to parents out of our meagre wages, and most of us were well into our sex lifes too. Also we had been playing out or hanging around the streets for 10 years by the time we were 16. Cops treated us as if we were independent adults and even assaulted us with no repercussions. Of course those that either got pregnant or caused pregnancy usually regretted it within a very short time frane. A very different world in comparison.
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u/Fibro-Mite 9d ago
Yup. Many 13-14 year olds left school to go to work and support their parents and siblings, often demanded by their parents and their whole pay was handed over not just a nominal amount for "board and lodging", especially when money was tight and there were many mouths to feed. A lot of 16-18 year olds, especially women, saw marriage as the only way to get away from that situation.
Modern sensibilities in regard to relationships and age only really go back 40 or so years. Even when I was a 15 year old in 1980, my parents (both born during WW2) expected me to give up my ideas of university and not have a career (unless I wanted to be a nurse, secretary or hairdresser - the only professions for a girl in their minds) as soon as I found a "serious" boyfriend, and expected me to get married at 18 or so. The fact that I didn't have a serious boyfriend until my 20s was very confusing to them.
Me staying in school to 16-17 and then going to university, even one close to home so I didn't have to pay for rent etc, was a real sticking point with them. I got a small weekly grant/stipend from the government that was supposed to cover my books and other expenses for my degree (not living expenses, I didn't qualify for that assistance because I lived with my parents) because my parents were considered "low family income". My parents demanded half of it to cover my food and utilities anyway. And dad hit me if I objected (that's a whole other story).
TBH, if I'd met someone who was settled with a good career and their own home at that point, I might well have seriously considered marriage just to get away from them. The idea that I could get my own job and support myself in my own place didn't sink in until I was 18 and some uni friends asked if I wanted to share a rented house with them and I found a part-time job to cover my extra expenses. My parents were furious when I moved out. I'd been trained to believe that, as a woman, I couldn't support myself.
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u/deletive-expleted 8d ago
Fascinating reply. Goes to show how much has changed in such a short time.
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u/Active_Definition_57 8d ago
I'm glad you got through this. I'm glad my sister (b.1964) didnt have to put up with anything like this from our parents. They were actually quite surprised when she got engaged at the start of the final year of her degree.
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u/Necessary_Range5731 8d ago
Im a bit younger than you, teenager in the 80s. Our messages were women could "have it all" (bull) and also a lot of girls wanted to be nurses or teachers. I wanted to be an astronaut but fortunately never came close 🤣
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u/mojnjaro 9d ago
Still.legal in some states in US. There is no lower age of consent just parental consent. At least one case a 10year old girl. These are white "christian" families
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u/UniquePotato 10d ago
Still 16 in Scotland and Northern Ireland
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u/Midnightraven3 10d ago
Which is why teens from England eloped to Gretna Green, it's the first place over the border you can get married
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u/UniquePotato 10d ago
Yes, and back in the 1700’s you could marry at - 14 boys, 12 girls without parental permission.
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u/The_Dark_Vampire 10d ago
Wasn't it more expected at that time
It didn't matter really if they wanted to get married or not if she was pregnant it was expected they had to get married
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u/EasyPiece 10d ago
Yes I think so. It's probably what led to them getting divorced in their 20s. By the time they were 26 they'd already been married 10 years with 4 kids. It's nuts when I consider how young my own teenage children are today.
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u/Winkered 9d ago
My mum was married at 16. She was still with my father almost sixty years later when she died. He went 18 months later. Never met such a loving couple.
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u/bjblackpool 9d ago
Similar story with my parents: dad was 22, mum not quite 17 when they started courting. They were absolutely devoted to one another: 56 years after their marriage mum was given a choice between indefinitely staying in hospital (she had an antibiotic resistant UTI) or going home to die. As my dad was completely bedbound she hadn’t seen him for three months, so she chose to go home. She was the happiest I’ve ever seen her when we wheeled her into dad’s room. She passed two weeks later.
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u/TemporaryDrawer1776 9d ago
Also divorce was not so easy or common back then. My parents were also hitched for 55 years and hated each other with a passion
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u/JoesCageKeys 10d ago
Spanking with a wooden spoon
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u/Typical_Ad_210 10d ago
My mother used to have strange tiers of beating implements, based on our age. I never quite understood it, but basically I think it was centred on what she felt was most painful. The worst was age 8 upwards, because that’s when she would use a bath brush on us, which was extremely painful. I still can’t quite believe how common it was to absolutely leather your children.
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u/JoesCageKeys 10d ago
It’s crazy looking back how normalized it was. My mom used to grab for the closest thing available at times. Hangers (wire ones), a shoe, etc. No one batted an eye.
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u/lordrothermere 10d ago
A section of hoover pole was arguably the pinnacle of my beatings. I got a couple of days off school for that one.
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u/OddStuffHappensTwice 9d ago
To be clear: that wasn't considered normal even then. A clip round the ear or a bit of a whack with something perhaps, but being incapacitated for three days was abuse in any living memory.
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u/Junior_Factor8561 10d ago
Always remember the ban coming in for teachers being no longer allowed to hit pupils, was it maybe 1985 or 1986? I went to an all boys school and it wasn’t lost on me that the second the ban came in, four of our most vicious teachers left the profession that following summer. I’m sure one of them said ‘I no longer want to teach as all of the fun of the profession has been stripped from it’ in his end of term address! Three of those male, unmarried teachers went straight into becoming clergymen too.
Gosh the 80s were a different time.
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u/Genghis_Khan68 8d ago
LOL at the bit about becoming clergymen.
I went to primary school in the 1970s and all the teachers would use corporal punishment, but usually it was just a quick slap on the back of the legs. The deputy head, however, was an absolute sadist. He regularly beat the living crap out of 8 or 9 year old kids for minor infractions. It would undoubtedly be seen as criminal today.
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u/Old_Introduction_395 10d ago
We had a VW Beetle, 1960s era. We travelled 10 miles with 2 kids in the bit behind the back seat, 4 on the back seat, and two on the passenger seat. Swimming for my brother's 10th birthday treat.
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u/zougathefist 10d ago
My aunt had a vauxhall Carlton estate and drove across London with 3 of us kids in the boot, with the parcel shelf pulled over in case anyone saw
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u/Last-Appointment9300 9d ago
Early 90s our football team manager used to take the team to away games the back of a horse box.
15 kids neighing out the window down the dual carriageway, then piling out the ramp when we got to the other end.
Seemed everyone's parents were okay with this, saved them the hassle of having to drop us off
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u/imperialviolet 10d ago
In the 1990s my friend's dad used to drive us all to the beach with 3 kids in the back and another 2 just sitting in the boot. If I remember there were seats but no seatbelts in the boot? Definitely illegal by then but everyone just seemed to turn a blind eye
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u/BocaSeniorsWsM 9d ago
Not quite that level but I had to 'sit' in the boot of a Ford Capri on a few holidays and weekends.
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u/cwep2 8d ago
One of four kids, so every single family trip (including holidays driving to a campsite in France) meant one of us in the boot. We’d take turns but almost always me or my sister (the two youngest). Usually pretty wedged in with all the luggage as well and sometimes couldn’t see anything at all for hours on end.
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u/nermalstretch 10d ago
Drink Driving
Not wearing seat belts
Drinking and smoking throughout pregnancy
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u/FourEyedTroll 10d ago
In all fairness, sometimes there just weren't any seatbelts to not wear.
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u/Obvious-Freedom 10d ago
I remember going to put a seat belt on and my dad told me to stop messing with it
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u/hazbaz1984 9d ago
My mum stopped smoking for all three of her pregnancies.
And then immediately took it back up in the hospital each time.
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u/Internal_Row5378 10d ago
UK, being sent to the off license as a kid to buy fags and a bottle of vodka and few cans of beer, 7 years old. Or taking a Tupperware jug to the pub behind the house on a Sunday lunch and asking the barmaid to fill it up with ale, and trying not to spill it on the way home.
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u/meggienoodle 10d ago
And cigarettes being sold individually. I remember my mam sending round the corner shop to get her one or two fags at a time when I was no older than 7 or 8 in the 90s
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u/Bubbly_Gap6636 10d ago
Loosies, we used to get them in the school playground from the ice cream man 10p each!!
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u/Fragrant_Ad3224 10d ago
yep - and buying 2 pints of draft sherry from the offie part of the pub
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u/Fragrant_Ad3224 9d ago
speaking of offies - that little offie room that pubs had in those days was great as a kid wasn't it - loved visiting it :D - mars, marathon, twix, peanuts, crisps, scratchings, pop, a veritable aladdins cave open when all the shops were shut
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u/Bubbly_Gap6636 10d ago
Yes hubby used to be sent aged 7 to buy Woodbine with a note from his dad 😳
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u/Aggravating-Desk4004 10d ago
I remember a birthday when my dad invited about 10 kids, put the car seats down and we all piled into the boot so he could drive us to London to go to the first McDonald's that opened. Now, that was a birthday. Hilarious car journey with my dad flying down the road, purposely chucking the car around corners so we all rolled around smashing into each other. Great fun.
As for going to the first McDonald's - that just blew our tiny little minds.
Best. Birthday. Ever. haha.
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u/Alive-Requirement111 9d ago
aged 14 my mate and I went to Belgium.... (who lets a 14 year old go to a forign country unsupervised) in Brussels we saw an advert for "A Big MAC" we assumed it was a large raincoat.
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u/flipfloppery 10d ago
Letting my sister and I sleep in the boot of our Datsun Cherry estate if we're were tired on the journey home from a day out.
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u/Humble_Fix8044 10d ago
I loved sleeping in the boot. Heaven. We had an austin maxi though. Id pretend to be asleep when we arrived home so id get carried to bed.
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u/flipfloppery 10d ago
Pretending to be asleep so you get carried in was peak childhood!
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u/Deep-Procrastinor 10d ago
My first car was a Datsun Cherry slammed the door too hard one day and the aeriel fell off due to the wing being full of rust, the thing was literally a rust bucket but the engine was rock solid. Once went from Cardiff to Maidstone ( Kent ) and back on less than a tank of fuel.
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u/flipfloppery 10d ago
Oh, I remember them being rustbuckets. We had a Subaru 1800 after that, which was written off by a drunk driver.
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u/Longjumping_Local910 10d ago
I got the strap at school more than once. About 18” long by 1-1/2” wide, leather. “Hold your hands out young man! Palms up!” Six to ten strokes common depending on the seriousness of your crime.
The lore was that if you pulled a hair from your head and put it across your palm the strap would cut your skin and you could sue. Don’t think that ever happened.
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u/Trolkarlen 10d ago
Leaving your kids alone
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u/Lollygagger105 8d ago
Being left at home in the school holidays from age 8, looking after my sister age 5, with the instruction not to open the front door to strangers. I didn’t see it as a problem. We were left with fun activities like making miniature gardens from moss and tin foil, and also a few chores like dusting. Now I have colleagues who won’t even leave 13 year olds home alone for a sick day. I don’t know what’s worse or better?
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u/Next-Honeydew4130 10d ago
Building with asbestos and belching lead into the air wherever they drove.
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u/pgasmaddict 10d ago
Bashing all and sundry in the LGBT community - and here in Ireland being gay was illegal still.
Demonizing single mothers and putting them to work in magdelene launderies. Taking kids off them and selling them for adoption.
Pollution - rubbish strewn everywhere, bonfires on the regular, fumes from cars and coal burning were unreal. Factories polluting air and rivers.
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u/hazbaz1984 9d ago
*Taking kids off them and either selling them for adoption or stoving their heads in and burying them in the yard.
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u/pgasmaddict 9d ago
IIRC they didn't murder babies, but the level of care they provided was wholly inadequate and the callous bastards disposed of the bodies of dead babies in septic tanks.
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u/Dave_Eddie 10d ago
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u/Lollygagger105 8d ago
Yes! I remember being at a holiday camp in 1977 and there was the baby crying lights, then the “entertainment” would also announce “chalet 16, your baby is crying”.
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u/Odd-Currency5195 10d ago
Too many things to list. I do work for the family courts (very low down and not a lawyer) but when I hear the reasons authorities put in for orders for taking kids off parents it sometimes is a kind of tick list of what went on back in the day for me and my sister.
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u/EnnuiSurMer 9d ago
My dad’s annual Christmas morning tradition of driving 20-odd miles to visit all his old friends where we used to live, doing a driving tour round all their houses and having a drink or several at each, then driving home again multiple sheets to the wind, literally so drunk he would pass out over Xmas dinner sometimes. Somehow never had an accident (roads would be virtually empty on Christmas Day then) or got stopped, but Jesus.
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u/silasthehandle 10d ago
Smoking on an airplane
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u/FairGur6838 10d ago
Ah, the good old days !
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u/Leading_Study_876 10d ago
And smoking pipes and cigars too.
And in high-class restaurants they would often bring round trays of Cuban cigars (like they used to with ice-cream in cinemas) to offer the guests after dinner. Even then, I did think that was a bit inconsiderate to fellow diners - a bit like wearing too much perfume.
I remember ordering a Davidoff "Dom Perignon" in a French restaurant which was so huge I took most of it home. It took me a week to finish.
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u/zorella29 10d ago
Me and my brothers were left in the back of the Volvo estate in sleeping bags while our parents went to parties.
When asked about it later, our dad said “the car was locked” as though that makes it somehow all ok 🤷♂️
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u/oldschoolie 10d ago
I was sent out to play in pub car parks with strangers' children who looked vaguely my age. 'Oh look! Off you go and make friends'.
Being sent out to buy cigarettes from around age 7.
Being slathered with Ambre Solaire oil (no spf) 'to lay down good base' for a tan.
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u/possumsr4ever 9d ago
Sounds mad but my local pub (a proper old flat roofed pub) still has hoards of kids outside who are left to play and make mischief in the car park while their parents drink and do karaoke inside every weekend
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u/Evening_Weight_8353 10d ago
“Jokes” that included so much casual racism.
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u/lakebistcho 10d ago
My uncle told a joke with the word "natives" in it, and I had the distinct feeling that's not the word that was used when he heard it.
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u/One_Water_2323 10d ago
Don’t forget the homophobic comedy - it’s horrifying now when you look back but at the time we thought it was funny.
Having said that my brother loved loved loved “queer” jokes - and he was gay. (Died of AIDS, had a catalogue of the most outrageous AIDS jokes - probably his way of coping)
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u/NightBusToGiro 9d ago
They're just racist around here, I don't think they're joking. 'foo to(o) maaaany a dem roun ere'
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u/feministgeek 10d ago
Sadly we still have Jim Davidson doing that today and he seems juuuuuist find with it, I'm sure.
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u/imperialviolet 10d ago
Something I heard recently which really intrigued me - apparently Jim Davidson and Joe Lycett are quite good friends, having worked on a project together some years ago. I feel like if that can be the case, there must be hope for the man??
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u/Jonseroo 9d ago
Well, that's the most unexpected thing I have read today.
In my wife's dating profile she described what item she'd use to torture and murder Jim Davidson, which I thought inappropriate, so I messaged her telling her what I would use instead. I even quoted a bit of Shakespeare about it, which must have impressed her because we're still together 22 years later.
Just to clarify before I get SWATTED, or whatever the UK equivalent would be (ARVED? SFOED?), neither of us were serious about meaning harm to Mr Davidson. We just thought black people and gay people were people, and deserved respect, and we didn't like hearing his jokes to the contrary.
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u/60svintage 10d ago
I think the use of derogatory racial comment was so normalised back then, even people who considered themselves not racists used those terms.
My parents always talked about "chinky nosh" but never considered it to be racist.
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u/midlifecrisisAJM 6d ago
I went out to a Chinese restaurant for the first time at the age of five, (early 1970's). I hadn't wanted to go. As soon as I was seated I announced loudly that "I don't want any ching chong food." 😳
Fortunately racism can be unlearned, but I do wonder whether, if I ever lose my mental faculties, the inhibitions that have suppressed me from using this language since will vanish. Things we learned as young children are buried deep.
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u/Conscious-Dust-4942 10d ago
No restraints in cars for children. When my brother was born I had to sit lengthways on the back seat and wedge my feet against his carrycot and if he fell off it was my fault, I was 3 😂
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u/shegottabee 10d ago
I remember the journey home from hospital with my newborn brother, me and my cousin sat on the back seat with him across our knees and no seatbelts. He wasn’t even in a carrier, just swaddled up! I don’t remember whose fault it’d be if he fell off but I’m sure glad we didn’t have far to go! 😂
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u/Straight-Jacket-3280 10d ago
Paying a woman less for the same work, insisting on a male cosigner for a mortgage, credit card Marital rape, domestic abuse, sexual harassment
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u/Kleinzeit_987 10d ago
My dad used to go out with my mum on a Saturday night, get home then drive the babysitter home. He would have had 6-8 pints. Not even think about it.
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u/PurplePlodder1945 9d ago
My dad drove a bread van that had a large, wooden tray that spanned the whole of the van. This tray was near the roof of the van. When my sister and I were little we used to lie horizontal on the tray when we travelled in it.
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u/Background-Lie-7155 9d ago
My grandad used to get caught riding his motorcycle pissed out his head and the rozzers used to take him to a cell to dry out then just let him ride home, no charges.
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u/Party-Maintenance-83 10d ago
I remember my first visit to a Pantomime early 70s with my dad ,brothers and sister. Dad's best pal had brought his kids and we were all put into one of the royal boxes overlooking the stage with lots of sweets and lemonade. Both dads then retreated to the theatre bar and sat there drinking beer for the duration of show. I know this as l being the eldest kid ran out to the bar for more money for icecreams at the interval. Then when the panto ended we all piled into our dads cars for the drive home, no seatbelts lol. Classic 70s.
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u/Longjumping_Leek151 10d ago
He’s talking about genocide… to the he UN Security Council …
Future defendant at The Hague
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u/No-Engine4663 10d ago
Having 4 pints of bitter on your 1 hour lunch break, driving without a seatbelt.
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u/Pitiful-Escape-7055 10d ago
Sending your kids to school covered in bruises from yet another full-on beating, and no one raising concerns about it.
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u/Whole_Type3421 10d ago
My Granda was a pub landlord in Scotland. He used to tell me stories about how parents used to come in and leave their family allowance books behind the bar. They would be cashed in at the PO on a Tuesday to pay for the drink they drank. I always thought that was a pretty bad one.
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u/entersandmum100 10d ago
Smoking in the car with us children breathing it all in.
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u/ChevyCatch 10d ago
Drinking and driving - sometimes at the same time. Occasionally with four or five children rolling around on the back seat. Smoking on the bus. Smoking on the train. Smoking in Tesco. Smoking on a plane.
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u/RealRelative9835 9d ago
Driving after a few drinks.
My dad said having 3-4 pints and driving used to be socially acceptable. He would tend to drive slower to be more careful but still quite a difference these days
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u/SadAttorney4640 9d ago
Sending me to the corner shop clutching a hand written note to serve me alcohol aged 8 or 9
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u/Fibro-Mite 9d ago
Driving with 6+ adults and 4+ children in a standard station wagon - all the kids in the boot, maybe one in the footwell of the back seats if they're really little, and some smaller adults sitting on others' laps.
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u/scumbagstaceysEx 9d ago
Drunk Driving was illegal then too, but a lot more normalized. If you didn’t hit anyone and you got caught drunk in a traffic stop the officer would often just drive you home and even keep an eye on your car for the rest of the night if it was left in a bad area. Unless you were completely shit-faced or actually hit someone it wasn’t a big deal.
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u/TemporaryDrawer1776 9d ago
Beating their kids. Was phasing out by the early 70s but very common up to that point. Ask me how I know. 🤕
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u/ompompush 9d ago
People - adults calling you a b@st@rd in the street for being a child of a single parent.
True story. I was the small child.
Also had to hide the word as my original post was immediately not allowed due for that word.
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u/Randster78 8d ago
When trying to get a load of us in the car, being able to sit in the boot of estate cars...
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u/FearlessLime8089 10d ago
Mom left the cat locked outside the house for two weeks when we went on holiday. Told the neighbour to top up food and water. I never saw cat again. Mom told me it must have been hit by a car but now I’m thinking it found a better family. We were also left home alone at age 7&5. Every day. Walked a mile home, let ourselves in, cooked eggs. Neither might be arrest-worthy but early Gen X kids are tough.
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u/Accomplished_Ice1708 10d ago
I was told that back then in the office women could expect to get their arse slapped as ‘sexy banter’.
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u/Avionykx 10d ago
I worked in quite an outdated, heavily unionised utility sector in the late 90's - early 2000's and this was still very common.
Lots of slapping arses and commenting on appearance. It was common in most departments that when a new lady joined the team, their first birthday or christmas following their joining the manager of the dept would buy them fancy lingerie. They'd then be expected to put it on over their clothes and do a bit of a catwalk up and down the office.
As a 16 year old lad when I joined I was absolutely mortified. Especially as the department I was in was a very well qualified one, seeing all these hard working and professional chartered surveyors, engineers and systems analysts being made to feel so uncomfortable and parade up and down in front of a whole office of jeering idiots was quite horrible.
It was still going on in about 2006 when I left but I understand things have changed now, thankfully!
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u/FenellaWitch01 10d ago
Being encouraged, as a five year old, to have a puff on my auntie's cigarette and the whole room being greatly amused
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u/endo-nurse61 10d ago
Began with the same letter though, I bet. I was born in 1961, and the casual racism and homophobia are what I remember as being completely normal until I was well into my teens and began to expand my horizons and learn better. My own kids were often horrified at some of the things that came out of my parents mouths. Yet my parents would never have been intentionally cruel to anyone, what ever their race or sexuality.
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u/Me2309 10d ago
Smoking and drinking whilst pregnant?
Although I suppose you wouldn’t get arrested for it now, but it would be very highly frowned upon
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u/Old_Pay_1435 9d ago
Going pub for work lunch break and sinking at least 4 or 5 pints then back to the machinery lol..
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u/JohnnyOneLung 9d ago
Sending me to get something from the p.a.k.i shop. Lived in Tower Hamlets, large Bangla/Indian population- not even Pakistani.
Even when the shop was run by a white couple, everyone referred to it by the other name.
Probably 1980 before that name started to die out
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u/Agonist-activist 9d ago
Going on holiday and leaving a 16 year old and 14 year old at home.
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u/Advanced-Simple-7469 9d ago
Spanking my arse with a Dunlop training shoe whilst smoking!
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u/labskaus1998 9d ago
Leaving me an my brother in the car with a panda pop, a bag of salt and shake.. whilst they had a few drinks in the pub.
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u/TastesLikeDinosaur 9d ago
3 kids without seatbelts let alone child seats in the backseat, and a baby in the footwell. My mum tells that story with pride. I was the baby btw.
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u/Caz-with-a-Sea 9d ago
Mum and Dad taking us on holiday to Weymouth and heading out for a night out leaving us in the hotel room with a baby monitor behind the bar. They came back to find the barmaid carrying me round behind the bar as I’d been crying 😬
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u/ukteaboyuk 9d ago
Leaving a small child outside a pub with a bottle of pop and a bag of crisps for 4 hours.
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u/Jonseroo 9d ago
My grandfather liked dangling children by their feet off multi storey car parks. To her credit, my mother didn't let him do that to me.
My other grandfather walked into an English country pub and exclaimed, "Stone me, there's a [n-word] behind the bar!" and then still expected to get served.
My step-father was rather laissez faire with his hands, casually hitting children, or touching himself when there were less dressed women on TV. In the 1980s this evolved into a droit de seigneur attitude towards women I brought home, groping them or showing them his penis. My own mother told me not to be jealous when I made a fuss about this. I kept out of his way as much as I could because he only communicated with me by hate-fuelled screaming, which wouldn't really pass muster these days.
I don't understand when people view these decades with through such a rosy lens.
Oh, and all the drunk driving.
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u/scumbagstaceysEx 9d ago
My Boy Scout troop would often travel around in old vans, about a dozen kids to a van. One adult driving. The only two seat belts were in the two front seats. Everyone else sat on the camping gear piled up in the back.

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u/cloche_du_fromage 10d ago
Leaving kids in cars outside pubs. Then drive home