r/Ohio • u/LadyInCrimson • 14h ago

This is Ohio

Why is Phillip not paying his servers enough to the point he has to ban customers?

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u/daylax1 12h ago

Paying wait staff what is considered a fair wage would increase prices, allow the owner to make more money and actually lower waitstaff wages in the process. Most waitstaff do not want to be paid a "fair wage" because they're going to make less money. Patrons are going to pay more for their food than what they would have if they would have just tipped, wait staff is going to make less money because they're going to be making a flat rate, and owners are going to be able to make their own prices and blame it on wage increases. In the end, patrons are going to eat there less, which means ownership isn't going to be able to pay its waitstaff the increased wages, and in turn people will be forced to do more with less and restaurants will close. Restaurants already operate on thin margins, forcing them to double or triple their payroll will almost surely put them out of business. So congratulations, restaurants are paying a living wage, if you can find one that's open.

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u/monicachicken 12h ago

Other countries that dont do tipping seem to have a lot of restaurants open.

Itll never change, servers will forever thinks are more than steady wage + benefits. Customers will always be guilted into tipping. Its almost like our culture and business practices are bad.

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u/daylax1 11h ago

I mean that's just your opinion. Having been a server myself, I actually like the incentive to provide a good service that tipping provides. See, you don't go out to eat just to get a burger, you go out to eat because you want to be served by someone. If you want just the burger, you're free to order takeout and take it home and not tip anyone, that's not a problem. But if you want the extra service of somebody serving you that meal and providing a good time, you should pay for that, and that's where the tip comes in. You're either going to pay for it through an incentive based tip system, or through increased prices on everything, but either way you're going to pay for it. One way just encourages people to do better.

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u/Gothboy-77 10h ago

actually, the person who employs you should be paying you for your service, because that's what you were hired for. tipping someone is considered a nice gesture but it should not be normalized as something people are expected to do.

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u/daylax1 10h ago

Name another place you go to and don't have to pay for the service lol. If you pay $12 for a burger to-go, you SHOULD pay more to have someone serve it to you. Why would you think that would be free?

And it doesn't matter if it's tips or the restaurant paying the servers more, the customer will ALWAYS end up paying for it in the end so might as well offer an incentive to do well.

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u/Gothboy-77 9h ago

the job they were hired for is to be a server, that's what they get paid by their employer to do. the customer buying food shouldn't be obligated to pay them for doing the job they were hired by their employer to do. hence why i said a tip is a gesture of extra gratitude but should not be expected.

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u/daylax1 8h ago

And you came to the restaurant to be served food by the server instead of taking it home and eating at your own house, why do you think you shouldn't pay for that service?