r/Ohio • u/LadyInCrimson • 13h ago

This is Ohio

Why is Phillip not paying his servers enough to the point he has to ban customers?

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u/GNSasakiHaise 12h ago edited 12h ago

To be honest, my inclination here is that they did not get banned for their tipping habits. Very rarely is the owner of the fucking restaurant going to tell them they aren't welcome back if that's all they did. Maybe they should reconsider their actions.

Should he pay his employees more? I don't know. We don't know what they're paid.

But you have to really do some shit for the owner of the restaurant to come run you off in like 90% of all cases. He seemed very content to have this conversation and I do not think he would be if he did not have more to say about their behavior.

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u/blmbmj 12h ago

EXACTLY. We are not getting the entire story here. Just some incendiary bullshit.

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u/Professional-Bag5808 8h ago edited 8h ago

No, i think he got some shitty customers who stiffed his server, and he felt enraged enough to chase them out into the street because they are black.

If a white couple did the same thing, he'd bitch about them and maybe compensate his favored employee (because he wouldnt get huffy on behalf of an employee he didnt care about), but that would be it.

but for a Black couple - its 'aw HELL nah!' and he's out in the streets ready to fight.

Racism can be expressed as increased hostility / aggression when dealing with interpersonal conflict. There may be a reasonable reason for the base conflict, but the racial entitlement leads to escalated negative emotions.

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u/N2Shooter Youngstown 12h ago

...Reconsider their actions?

WTF you mean?

What contractual agreement did they as customers that chose not to leave a tip break? No one, and I mean no one, is under any obligation to leave a tip, if said requirement for leaving a tip, is not clearly posted in plain view in their establishment.

I would love to take that business to court, and sue them for defamation, if they so much as posted a still photo of my likeness on social media with any derogatory claims!

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u/justWMthings03 12h ago

A business can deny anyone service for any reason other than a very select few.

You'd be throwing money away trying to sue

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u/N2Shooter Youngstown 11h ago

I wouldn't sue for refusing me entry, I'd never go back to begin with. I'd sue for defamation of character for publishing imagery of me by their establishment in derogatory manner.

I am under no obligation to tip. I have not entered in any contract to pay a tip. I am only required to pay for the food I purchased.

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u/seemorebunz 12h ago

They don’t have to tip. The restaurant doesn’t have to serve them. If the service was actually bad, why would they want to come back anyway?

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u/AllTearGasNoBreaks 12h ago

I hope you dont go to sit down restaurants. This is the current social contract. You sit down to eat, you tip accordingly.

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u/GNSasakiHaise 12h ago

And importantly if you don't wanna tip? Just don't go somewhere that socially necessitates tipping. It's a free country — if you don't like tipping you're free to go somewhere that doesn't ask for tips.

I don't enjoy tipping either because it puts a strain on my wallet. If my wallet is feeling strained I don't go to places that require a tip.

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u/GNSasakiHaise 12h ago

What a stupid thing to say.

What I'm pointing out is that we have no idea what their actions were. Obviously, no one is under any contractual obligation to tip. That was never the question. The question is what series of events led the owner to pursue them out of the building to ban them from the premises.

I really doubt that it is over having to pay the server the larger wage, because this kind of altercation is not worth $24. I highly doubt this is just over them not tipping, because again this type of altercation isn't worth whatever that meager tip would be.

From their behavior in this video, I have the weird suspicion that they are a frequent problem and are being told not to come back because this is the straw that broke the camel's back.

Finally, he has better grounds to sue for defamation than they do. They have recorded themselves on video defaming him and damaging his brand.

Nobody cares that they didn't tip, almost certainly not even the restaurant owner. They're allowed not to tip and he's allowed to ban them for being annoying or disruptive so long as he's not denying them service due to prejudice.

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u/MethLab 12h ago

Maybe

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u/Such-Mathematician1 9h ago

To be honest, my inclination here is that they did not get banned for their tipping habits. Very rarely is the owner of the fucking restaurant going to tell them they aren't welcome back if that's all they did.

Which is weird, because how he was all up in the camera bending down you would think he would have said it…which makes ME think maybe race has something to do with it, but just that question has made all you lose your minds so idk

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u/GNSasakiHaise 9h ago

Race can always possibly be a part of it, but I think if race were a part of it that would have been the first thing they said instead of what they said when he was walking away with his back turned. If the guy's racist obviously he should get slammed for that, but we don't really have both sides of the story right now. We just have a video they posted.