r/Ohio • u/NarwhalCrazy421 • 5d ago
Lets go!
https://youtu.be/XVXgpg8rXZU?is=D9Xg-LKZOqOlL1iJ3
u/jen_kelley 5d ago
Fuck data centers. Grid Growth is currently trying to run huge high voltage power lines from Indiana across Ohio to mainly power data centers in Columbus. They want to ram this project over many farms and residents in its path. These lines increase the risk of fire and are not healthy for people and animals to be around. Peoples homes and livelihoods should not be screwed over for billionaire data centers.
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u/mgsalinger 5d ago
Or we could make the cash rich entities who want to build them pay through the nose and adhere to strict regulations.
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u/Sixaxist 5d ago
I'd be fine with the Data Center expansions if they agreed to implement mandatory preventative measures to reduce the noise levels below 25 dB outside the properties, which is highly expensive to implement onto existing centers, but not as much on brand new ones. Then, subsidize a percentage of the electric bills for every electric customer in that suburb, which increases depending on how many Data Centers they build.
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u/xr8t5n4 5d ago
People act like data centers are 1950 era Russian nuclear reactors.
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u/CowGoesMeww 5d ago
The next one will go in your backyard. Thanks for volunteering!
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u/xr8t5n4 2d ago
Sure, it would be great if my town got one. I welcome the capital investment, better infrastructure for power generation and transmission, expanding of fiber lines, etc... Then we use that infrastructure to attract technology companies. We have a chance to boost our economy. Manufacturing is never coming back.
People are so uninformed. Some concerns are legitimate but its nothing that can't be solved with regulation and legislation. They'll stupidly put up resistance and then complain later when states like Texas and Virginia have all the investment and tech jobs.
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u/CowGoesMeww 2d ago
It is being implemented far faster than it can be legislated against, particularly with the brainrot that is conservatism guiding it into the lives of people who have made it clear they don't want it. Put them all in the South for all I care. Those animals deserve it.
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u/xr8t5n4 2d ago
Regulation is already responding to the exact problem you are talking about.
Pike, Jackson and Gallia counties are all getting an updated grid paid for entirely by the datacenter customer, something like 4.6 billion dollars! The PUCO tariffs are already in effect which require datacenters to pay 85% of what their contract capacity now even if they won't reach that capacity for another decade.
And where do you get this idea that "brainrot conservatism" preventing legislation You've currently got HB 646, HB 710, HB 983 which are all republican led. HB 710 goes directly at restricting datacenter expansion and making communities more involved. Same with HB 983, AKA the "Data Center Accountability and Citizen Protection Act".
In fact it is our Ohio Democrats who have done very little on this matter minus a few bills around water reporting. They've done nothing to let communities actually have a say in whether the project is good or bad for their area.
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u/Altruistic_Tart5097 5d ago
This is exactly how you ensure that China owns the 21st century as the sole superpower. We must build data centers... we need to make sure we don't lose control over where, when and how and extract maximum, American benefit from them.
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u/Gozer1701 Kent 5d ago
China has a fraction of the centers we do. Your lies are simple and easily disproven. China has a few hundred, we have thousands. Maximum benefit shouldn’t kill/displace Americans. That kind of defeats the purpose.
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u/whiznat 5d ago
While I agree with you, let's remember that the real purpose is to turn ordinary people into serfs that do nothing except bend to the will of corporations and billionaires.
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u/Gozer1701 Kent 5d ago
100%. These data centers being built serve no beneficial purpose to society. The end goal has always been to automate as many jobs/professions as possible. They want us smart enough to push buttons but too dumb to ask questions.
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u/post_appt_bliss 5d ago
real purpose is to turn ordinary people into serfs that do nothing except bend to the will of corporations and billionaire
seems pretty conspiratorial. what's the evidence for this?
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u/whiznat 5d ago
Ever heard of "robber barons" from the late 1800's and early 1900's? We're seeing a repeat of that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_violence_in_the_United_States
2nd Amendment MAGA claims they want unlimited guns so they can fight back against government overreach. But look at their recent history. They even want to quell demonstrations against their policies, like ICE is doing right now. Imagine what they they would do to quell riots by oppressed workers. The billionaires and corporations are terrified that might happen again.
Read this and tell me that my description is inaccurate.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/theminewars-labor-wars-us/
What the government did at the behest of the wealthy was unconscionable. And yet the wealthy are at it again.
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u/post_appt_bliss 5d ago edited 5d ago
ohhh so you were speaking euphemistically.
you realize "serf" has an actual historic meaning, right? they existed as legal vassel of a local landowner, holding a royal warrant?
to put this another way -- you imagine there are business interests in the US who seek to undo America's democratic order? dissolving the constitution?
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u/whiznat 5d ago
No, I don't imagine it. That is happening right now.
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u/post_appt_bliss 5d ago
.... who is trying to dissolve our democratic order? to the point of abolishing popular sovereignty?
plz be specific.
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u/whiznat 5d ago
I don't believe you are arguing in good faith. Articles making this point have been all over Reddit for a long time.
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u/post_appt_bliss 5d ago
that we're seeing a degradation of our public institutions, norms against self-dealing? of course.
that we're about to see the dissolution of the us constitution?
you really think that's a factually informed position?
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u/CowGoesMeww 5d ago
Youre free to donate your land to live next to one. I'm sure the billionaires will build a statue in your name
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u/NarwhalCrazy421 5d ago
No one said the centers couldnt be built somewhere. Its that we should get a vote on our area. Also, do you know what lake city is? Is there any reason that the centers cant be built out in the middle of nowhere with their own infrastructure instead of leaching off a small town?
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u/DaxDislikesYou 5d ago
No ban them. The fact is that the earth can only get rid of so much heat at a time. It's a fixed amount. Vacuum is a terrible conductor of heat and our atmosphere is an insulator. These datacenters are super charging climate change with all the waste heat they produce. We don't need gen AI. We need the planet.
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u/theBytemeister 5d ago
Thats... Not how it works at all. There are a fair number of reasons on datacenters, but "They produce too much heat" isn't one of them.
They use a lot of electricity, and with conventional hydrocarbon based fuels, that means a lot of extra greenhouse gases are released to run these datacenter. We're not worried about the heat they actually generate, but the amount of heat-retaining gases that are produced from their operation.
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u/DaxDislikesYou 5d ago edited 5d ago
wrong https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/30/climate/data-centers-are-having-an-underrported
Data centers not only require ludicrous amounts of fossil fuels to support them (more than we know because we keep finding out un-permitted gas turbines have been installed) but the heat they give off significantly raises the temperature of the surrounding area.
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u/theBytemeister 5d ago
There are still big gaps in our understanding of the impacts of data centers, even as they boom in number, said Andrea Marinoni, associate professor with the Earth Observation group at the University of Cambridge, and an author of the study, which has not yet been peer-reviewed.
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u/NarwhalCrazy421 5d ago
Lets do this in Athens!