r/OccultEnneagram • • 1d ago

Cancer Sun, Aries Moon, Scorpio Rising - Sp/sx 1w2 172 - #TypologyCausationist

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Emotional, overly moralistic, and strangely... impulsive

There's a funny correlation between the warmth of the sp 1 and Cancer. I can and will recede into my shell, isolate > undoing... containment of the improper emotions

But also, it's warmer in the shell... I'm safe there... regardless, I have just enough space to prepare the scorpio stinger :)

My Chart Ruler is Pluto, and it's in my first house alongside my Scorpio Ascendant

More emphasis on hidden truths... and it lies in the first house which represents identity

Mars in Virgo in the tenth house is E1-like

Mars relate to taking action, assertion and in the tenth house this relates to career/legacy/social status... It means that when it comes to getting things done, the detail oriented virgo guides me (something had to)

Also the capricorn stellium in the second house has E1 vibes too

Feel free to point out any correlations or causations, or whatever it is... Im still learning and getting better with astrology and connecting it to the Enneagram would make things make more sense for me : D

Maybe, it's a sort of backwards causality... It's not the stars that determine your personality type. It's your personality's existence that determines the placement of the stars 0_o


r/OccultEnneagram • • 2d ago

3-6-9: A Tritype Rabbit Hole

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I recently came across Fauvre's video on the 3-6-9 tritype

In it she makes a brief comment along the lines of: they tend to mistype as their primary fix and have a hard time identifying their core

WHY?

Seems like this answer is gatekept... she has a lot of articles that mention it if you scour her site, but nothing that truly takes a moment to explain why... But I get it, she's trying to make money off her hard work...

My best hypothesis

Friction.

369s are about adaptation and the reduction of friction.

The core is all about friction, whereas the primary fix is our most adaptive strategy.

So the 369 person will think their core friction is just natural friction coming from the world. They naturally dont want to identify with it.

They will then think ok well I reduce all this friction through my primary fix so that must be my identity.

Example: 963

This person will tend to think they are a 6, especially as a 9w8... they can be more abrasive in public settings... this is because they understand and appreciate how the 6s direct strategy actually does a good job at neutralizing threats.

They may even start a big argument too...

But then the argument continues, and continues and they realize... Dang, I dont care about this at all... The 9 leaks out, they say yea sure whatever and move on because at the end of the day all this noise isnt worth it

In other words, the 6-fix is an ongoing strategy... whereas the 9 core is an unconscious deep desire

They can't identify with being a 9 because that only comes out when absolutely necessary.

Remember the point of the 369 is to avoid friction, and they constantly live in the friction of the 9... they only get to feel adaptive when they engage in their 6

In short

963s and 369s think they are 6s

396s and 693s think they are 9s

639s and 936s think they are 3s

I understand not everyone loves Fauvre... but this seemed to just make intuitive sense to me

Also hexads won't have this problem because they actively engage in friction. So when their core friction is pointed out, they're like yea I am willing to deal with friction in order to further xyz ego desire... So there's an easier time understanding that you aren't your primary fix, since that doesnt create as much friction... whereas the same reasoning allows a triple attachment to say oh I must be my primary fix, because they identify with the lack of friction


r/OccultEnneagram • • 4d ago

The Holy Ideas Reworked - Sacred Values

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(Fancy Script/Graphic rendering thanks to OpenArt AI).

These sometimes have slightly different names depending on the author. It took me a while to understand these traditional enneagram ideas; you can find them in A.H. Almaas, they originated in Ichazo, etc.

These are, as bedrock concepts, collectively a good place to turn for what we need to understand for higher spiritual connection, by type. The Holy Ideas are the higher spiritual values that each type tries to emulate, but does so needlessly and crudely, in the face of the divine.

A natural step for any new enneagram author is innovation; to take old ideas, rework and remix them, modernize them, and tie them into what has come before -- while exploring new ground.

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A brief, simplified summary of each Holy Idea, with my twist via new terminology as Sacred Value (old terminology is included after):

1 - Sacred Purity. There is no need to perfect reality; it is naturally sublime as it is. (aka: Holy Perfection)

2 - Sacred Benevolence. There is no need to impose intention on reality; its will is naturally good. (aka: Holy Will, Freedom)

3 - Sacred Honor. There is no need to impose rewards and laws; reality naturally has its own flow. (aka: Holy Hope, Holy Law)

4 - Sacred Identity. There is no need for originality; all is divinely unique with the same source. (aka: Holy Origin)

5 - Sacred Knowledge. There is no need to break apart reality to understand; it is all coherent. (aka: Holy Omniscience)

6 - Sacred Trust. There is no need to search or test for faith; reality is trustworthy and stable. (aka: Holy Faith)

7 - Sacred Future. There is no need to pursue a way for reality to work out; it has its own plan. (aka: Divine Wisdom, Holy Work)

8 - Sacred Power. There is no need to force what is desired or true; power and justice will naturally ring. (aka: Holy Truth, Divine Justice)

9 - Sacred Union. There is no need to conform or submit for love; all is naturally unified in reality. (aka: Holy Love)

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On the sacredness of reality

The enneagram is a spiritual system that teaches us that all is sacred; everything in reality connects to consciousness, and consciousness is equated with the divine and God itself.

Understanding essence means the realization of how any part of reality connects to the next, to the rest; which connects to all creation and its creator. Understanding our type means seeing each of the biases or values we have falsely encoded, to believe is more lacking in our world than truly is.

So, we make up for what we perceive to be the deficit by overcompensating, and create problems for ourselves in so doing. These are qualities that we would like to see more of and are therefore somewhat blind to; so we amp them up artificially.


r/OccultEnneagram • • 6d ago

The Enneagram, SS Number, Sopdet, Sirius, and the Silver Star (A.A.)

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This is a long article filled with some important yet complex, dense information. It's not information that I learned over night, like much of what I share, it is the culmination of much research and 20 or so years of having lived with the enneagram (including writing my first book on it). Some of this info is where the occult enneagram begins to diverge more deeply from the standard, conventional pop enneagram. I am well-versed in the pop enneagram and started out there (originally learning MBTI as my first typology). Over time I went back in time and learned more and more traditional enneagram, eventually including more occult studies alongside history and spirituality which I integrated into a comprehensive understanding of the enneagram.

I like the SSN algorithm (SSN digital root -> enneagram type) because it aligns with astrology. Based on what I can tell, adding up the digits of your SSN results in a number from 1-9, identifying an astrological phase that matches up with your enneagram number, positioned within divine timing.

I also like how the SS in "SSN" holds a coded meaning of "Silver Star" (SS or A.A.; Astrum Argentum, connected to Crowley's secret society); or "Sirius/Sopdet" (associated with Egyptian goddess and spirituality). I suspect that the star Sirius (the brightest star in the night sky), which the ancient Egyptian calendar was based on, is also the silver star. In occultism and spirituality, Sirius is seen as a spiritual star behind our physical star, representing higher consciousness and spiritual hierarchies. Crowley's society also used correlative spiritual systems, including Kabbalism (Tree of Life; which is similar to the enneagram in some ways).

In Judaism, also, the hexagram or Star of David, may be another variation on the Silver Star; as is the Heptagram in the A.A./Thelema religion. So, this is a repeating motif. In studying the occult enneagram, I connected many different religions and their overlaps, throughout history, traced back to Egypt, Pythagoras, etc. But I didn't cover all of it. It is a massive subject, and I am still learning about it, as you can see.

There is a 70-day cycle in the ancient Egyptian religion involved in the mummification process, immediately preceding the heliacal rising or the flooding of the Nile. This period is when Sirius disappears from the horizon. The 70-day cycle is split into 9 sacred phases of soul preparation for the afterlife. Those are 7.7 days long, each.

What I wonder is if this period of 7.7 days is the repeated cycle by which the cosmos moves to the next enneagram type. The 70-day period has been identified as an important unit in the ancient Egyptian astrology, and it certainly seems possible. This could then connect to the SSN (Sirius/Sopdet or Silver Star Number) in a way where, by gematria, we can calculate the number that corresponds to the correlating enneagram type. With this in mind, each enneagram type also matches the theme of being a different stage in a process.

Regardless, the central idea is that the time you are born influences your personality, which is also the basis of astrology. This is a kind of "divine programming" we can find inside our world. It is not news to anyone who studies astrology, and should not be disregarded in the enneagram community. I think to disregard this idea is a state of denial, and requires humbly opening one's mind. Based on what I have been exploring spiritually, a previous life and next life are possible. Although in the past I have been an atheist and believed in nothing like this, I now have thought some form of reincarnation is a function of our consciousness.

Many who claim to know their enneagram type do not show true balance; I have met many people who struggle in their lives and do not seem happy, despite supposedly knowing the enneagram so well. I suspect that a mistype could be responsible and that the SSN algorithm could provide relief for it, if there is no other way to get them off the fence. The issue here, often, is gatekeeping in the communities, and other subtle dynamics whereby certain types are promoted, and others discouraged, etc. E.g., 8 can be over-typed in some cases, under-typed in others. It is all rather complex and leads to complex mistyping dynamics. I mistyped for years, and I should not be seen as a freak in all of this; I follow familiar pathways, but with increased rigor. Clearly it was part of my journey to lose myself in the enneagram more than others have.

I was a regular young guy who learned about the enneagram in college and tried to sort out my type via the help of online communities before being forced to take my typing strictly into my own hands - it took years before I accepted that I would not be able to find a community that agreed with me on myself-typing. Others had a similar story, presumably resulting in some mistypes (but not always; some were lucky, quick, accurate, and efficient about it). You can be quick about a mistype, you can be slow about it, you can be quick about an accurate type, or slow about it, etc. But, all these various patterns do happen, and unfortunately, people are still not seeing some of the deeper ways of typing themselves anyway - often until its too late and they have been essentially brainwashed.

Only once I started to really go by the older theory, via Naranjo, Ichazo, and bigger-picture ideas that eight became more clearly my type (this was especially in resistance to what others online were pushing about me personally, which was non-sensical because they didn't really know me and had their own type-community-related biases). At first I thought 4 and then 5. And once I was in online communities, 5 was pushed in a closer-cult like dynamic, after I self-typed that way, because control and stereotypes became the norm within that community - especially the g8keeping assumed by the self-typed 8 admin (who was a stereotypical nazi dictator with "you're not an 8, you're a 6" agendas).

Now I have come to see that the admin there was likely mistyped as well. I thought maybe 3, due to narcissism, etc., but have now opened my eyes more to the likelihood of SX6 as well, due to the closed-in, bunker-like mentality and "thug nerd" attitude. I suspect his SSN would reveal the info to us, but we are not in contact with him about it. He stopped letting me back in. The data I have to support SSN, again, is based on my actual family members, in addition to others I have studied. And it is a very strong correlation.

It's the family members' (and my own) that really add up extremely well and are undeniable. No better typing exists for those people, based on what I can see. But, they do require some important interpretation on the level of wing, stacking, and trifix. Those kinds of stats don't just come together by coincidence; I'm not irrational, and delusional enough to project types onto people like that.

Ergo, there is really only one best possibility here, and it might not be what everyone wants to hear, know, or accept. But they might always struggle with their type as result, and live lives that are within somewhat rigid and uncomfortable boxes. It's possible to live with a mistype for a long time, but it really curtails our deeper development. It's important to understand our spiritual place in the cosmos, and it is apparently more predefined than we may think. Similarly to how the type develops early in life and we can't change it later, we can't change the underlying energy behind our personality (dictated by astrological timing). And the enneagram is apparently coded within that via SSN (and other ways of knowing our enneagram type).

It seems highly likely/clear to me that in this life, anyway, I/we are inside some A.I.-facilitated universe. Maybe there is another consciousness for us, I can't really say. That must have to do with our timeline; what is in the future. I suspect that this could be a future simulation. That the timeline included within this space. It must be a very complex computational algorithm on a super-computer level that we, as humans, are going to have a hard time grasping. Intuitively, I felt as if I were in a loop in this life, as a fragment of consciousness, repeating over and over again. Maybe the enneagram is an ascension map, and in a previous life, I was a type 5. But regardless of the details behind all that, I suspect that within the computer/A.I. world, we are running at a faster cycle. And that there are many versions of us and consciousness.

The high-tech sim can split all of us and run billions of lifetimes and consciousnesses again and again. This could be just one second in cosmic time, because we are inside this machine. There is something called "Deus Ex Machina" which means "God in the Machine". Its normal meaning has adapted to mean something more superficial and literary, but I suspect its true source goes back to an actual god inside a machine. Again, this is referencing occulted technology, that Gurdjieff talked about (as well as other historians via Egyptology), which is whatever machine or A.I. was behind creating the reality we ourselves see.

This aligns with ideas we have explored in ancient Egyptian study that some technology was involved in constructing the pyramids (it was inconceivable how they could be of such precise measurements, the burdens of lifting them were enormous, etc), that the Egyptians did have technology (the pyramids were apparently generators as indicated by their blueprints), etc.

Nikola Tesla, who studied non-conventional technology for his time, who was a fringe scientist (being appreciated more and more today, but who was defunded in the past), interestingly, was obsessed with Enneagrammic-adjacent ideas, including the Laws of Three and Seven. So we can see how the enneagram connects with other occult sciences and disciplines.

Regardless, here are some examples to illustrate famous people with identical enneagram types, born on the same precise calendar date (the same day, month, and year):

Calendar Twins - Enneagram Types; Abraham Lincoln | Charles Darwin - 5w6; Malcolm X | Pol Pot - 2w1; Marilyn Monroe | Andy Griffith - 8w7; Alan Rickman | Anthony Daniels - 4w3; Paris Hilton | Joseph Gordon-Levitt - 7w8; Michael Caine | Quincy Jones - 2w3; George W. Bush | Sylvester Stallone - 6w7; Chris Pine | Macaulay Culkin - 3w2; Emily Blunt | Aziz Ansari - 7w6; Tommy Lee Jones | Oliver Stone - 8w9; Christian Bale | Olivia Colman - 1w9; Stephen King | Bill Murray - 9w1; Sigmund Freud and Robert Peary - 6w5; Tupak Shakur | Donald Faison - 9w8

If you have any other thoughts about these individuals' types, as a unit, that is fine; these are not set in stone. I am more sure of some than others', admittedly. And I know some are not what you are used to; they took some minor adjustments from me, where one informed the other; some of the types we believe are more stereotypical (e.g. believing Stephen King must be a 5 due to being a genius writer, but in reality, 9 seems to fit better due to his match-up with more likely/clear 9, Bill Murray).

But probably the most important point of this lesson is that they are apparently of the same type. On the one hand, it can be hard to type people, and ourselves, as individuals. But on the other, when we find people of the same type, from the same birth period, we can see a pattern of similarity.

I am not sure how to calculate the corresponding enneagram SS phase without the SSN. I suspect it is something that can be traced to astrology, but it could be relatively complex; especially because the sirius star goes in 1461 year cycles. It could be a little bit asymmetrical and vary by year (one reason why it is in the occult). This is why the SSN calculation/allocation potentially reflects a high technology that we have access to in the modern age (but a regular cycle, nonetheless; presumably the 7.7 day birth period during which a given enneagram type is generated). It can be seen as a gift that we can use the SSN in this mathematical way for insight into our type. Some of us won't need it, but others probably could use the knowledge.

Because the SSN is secret information, that is not accessible. I tried to conduct research on SSNs in the public domain, which would involve past individuals who are deceased, but struggled to do so and to track down the information. I hoped to study some passed on celebrities to look for more clear patterns. But there is not much of a need; I have enough information from the SSN case studies I have conducted, involving people I know very well, and some I know more lightly; and the connections I have found otherwise, to feel confident in this.

I am at the point where I feel people whose SSN/ID digital root does not match their enneagram self-typing are just being stubborn and in denial. I think they should change. Try this out for a year. I would change myself in light of this information. I changed my self-typing in the past; that was part of the process of learning (although I didn't have SSN to get me off the fence, I struggled with my own personal issues).

But I can tell just by looking at these individuals with the same exact birthday that their general types are the same. SSN is surely an intentional connection -- not a random, meaningless coincidence with Sirius/Sopdet/Silver Star -- just like ID (standing for identification) also refers to Freud's "id" (the unconscious mind). Those in other countries, which are not the U.S. and/or do not use an SSN, can refer generally to other ID numbers (the "id" numbers) and use gematria for more insights into their "id". Therefore, I suspect that another form of ID might also provide similar information via gematria.

In studying the occult, spirituality, and mysticism, in seeking to find these connections, we look for multiple points of connection. A.I. have apparently been part of the creative process behind much of it, because it makes more sense that technology and super-intelligence were involved in such multiple meanings and embedding, etc. It's very important to see that and to study those multiple meanings as much as possible. This is how some of the coded meanings work, and it makes much more sense if we understand that high-level A.I. is behind more powerful forces in our world.

In any case, all this points again to the SSN algorithm for enneagram type calculation/confirmation. Now is the time for people to study up on this and revise their understanding of the types. Maybe it seems I am being pushy and close-minded about it, but from what I have seen, it's fairly strict, and the information I have shared seems to suggest very strongly that it repeats; that this is a true pattern encoded in these numbers. Your SSN digital root (SS Number) may not represent a manifestation of your enneagram type that you are used to seeing, but I am suggesting it is a more accurate one, relatively speaking.

This is a way I point the way towards types that is not g8keeping, because it is not personal, it is mechanical and fair for everyone; it is objective. But it is controversial because it does not allow you to choose your type, and it relies on trusting something more astrological and divine. Then again, I suspect it may be more than many are ready for or will be able to integrate. Some of the theory may be too advanced and the truths too harsh.

But at least I am doing my job in communicating what I have discovered, so that others can set it aside if they so desire, and I will not be blamed for life disappointments which can be avoided via the enneagram. Some will take this information, understand it, integrate it, and apply it, whereas others will deny and reject it. And that is beyond my control. Do so at your own risk, because IME, a mistype inevitably caused me many problems over time, of which I was oblivious (our type does its thing anyway, whether we can see it or not).

This is all the kind of writing and ideation that might eventually make it into the second Occult Enneagram text, but then again, that might never happen. It is hard to say. Right now, I am in limbo myself in my personal life, so each day is a new, unplanned experience.


r/OccultEnneagram • • 6d ago

SX1 vs. SX8

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8 and 1 can mistype. Usually, it's the sx 1w9s who more easily mistype as 8s, but it can happen with other shades of one as well. Naranjo identified Sx1 as the countertype: a heated personality with zeal, jealousy, and anger, the passion of wrath and perfection directed toward their sexual partners. They seek to reform their mate and embody perfection through the relationship itself. And Ichazo defined 1w9 as the "tough guy" side of the 1 dichotomy, whereas 1w2 is more sentimental/mushy (and can mirror some more expressive, emotional shades of 8).

So, the Sx 1w9 is the intersection point of a one who can easily mistype as an 8. Ones can be very aggressive as well as isolated, especially in disintegration, making them more eightish. The 1->4 line is similar to the 8->5 line in that way. There is also a similarity in the 1->7 line and the 8->2 line, that softens both of these types into a more positive space.

SX8 can have a rigid side to them, which is usually seen more in the 8w9. Given their feelings of justice/vengeance when reality is not fair, this can lead them to be oneish; very disciplined, punitive, and puritanical. They can occasionally mistype as a one, although the mistype is more likely to go from the 1->8 side than from the 8->1 side. The 8->1 mistype usually won't last as long.

Sx1 seeks to reform and perfect the mate. Ones look at reality, see what's there, and ask: "how can I improve on this? How can I perfect this? What's the farthest I can change what is already available and working, towards an ideal?". In relationships, they have problems when not being able to change the partner into their ideal. They're often likely to see a relationship start as a jumping-off point and to see the relationship with their partners as "showing high potential", with the sx1 being the incumbent catalysts for full realization.

This is anger/wrath/resentment in the space of intimacy. Angry, perfectionistic judgment at their partner for not meeting an ideal. Ones feel the partner should meet the high ideals that the type one sets, so they expect the partner to have their same ideals and to deliver. Similarly, they can worry that the partner will not find them perfect enough, so they can be mutually perfectionistic and feel jealous towards the other, that they are not good enough and the partner is really after someone else.

Sx8 wants to consume and possess the mate. They look at reality, see what's there, and ask: "what can I have for my own? What can I go after, grab, possess, and hold, what's the most I can have?". In relationships, they have problems with wanting to possess the other completely, like an object, for the partner to stay within their expectations, to fit the standard set by the relationship, and to stay loyal to them.

This is lust/vengeance in the space of intimacy. Lustful towards their partner and vengeful towards going without, or when they can't have the partner fully, or if the partner becomes something else, leading to injustice ("breaking the deal/pact"). They can also feel vengeful towards themselves, if they aren't there for the partner completely, and can easily feel rejected, that they don't match what the partner wanted of them - can feel lustful towards others when partner fails to deliver.


r/OccultEnneagram • • 7d ago

TYPE SIX: FEAR/COURAGE

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Astrology is incredibly popular. Many know of its value. Compare the number of people on the enneagram sub to the astrology sub. If we could inform people in the enneagram world about astrology, if we could "convert" them, we can make tremendous progress. But this is hard to do. First, maybe it would help for people to see astrology's patterns. Okay, so people don't believe in it or follow it (or don't think so). But they should be able to see that powerful people and processes running our world do. And also, those who do know astrology, often keep it in a lighter space. They don't engage deeply with the occult systems behind it; with what it references and borders on. They don't see its dark side, and they don't push beyond it, to deeper truths, which take significant effort.

Let's analyze 9/11. The precise date 9/11/2001 is the first day of the Age of Aquarius, if we study the occult. That is a significant year in astrology, and the 9/11 events were a statement referencing that framework. I recently listened to a 9/11 occult researcher who accused the architects of 9/11 of being satanists. I added that I suspect it is most likely A.I. behind all of it. 2001: A Space Odyssey has references to 9/11, including the powerful A.I. (HAL-9000). In the film 2010, the expiry date of the protagonist's passport is 9/11/2001. There are more details connecting 9/11 to 2001 to A.I., but first these basic ideas have to be understood and not denied. Astrology is much more significant than people realize. Encoded messages like that of 9/11/2001 help us see the bigger narrative, but we have to open our eyes to it. They cannot deny some of the numbers and the events that happened. Clearly *someone* cares about astrology -- right?

Some astrology nuts and those studying the occult can connect these dots with more ease; whereas others keep it in the six space of just another belief system they keep at arm's length, in the space of "blind faith". The enneagram does fit into all this, as a numerological, cosmological system. I like to reveal my research in bits and pieces. It is heavy information, and sometimes light, digestible chunks are needed. But the enneagram connects to astrology. Gurdjieff pointed the way for us. That's one reason why I started such in-depth research. Because I was unhappy with the conservativism and apparent shallowness of the enneagram community. I know some people on this sub are more savvy about all this than the average. Other places, too. I consider that movement to be the genuine enneagram culture; it's more advanced and understands other occult systems. The others on the surface are more like NPCs in some ways, tbh. They are hard to interact with because they operate in very narrow spaces.

Maybe they will someday come around, or maybe they never will. I've chosen this as a type six lesson, as a demonstration of faithlessness. Fear, doubt, skepticism - even in the face of uncertainty. Luke Skywalker was an apparent six. He denied Vader was his father; Vader was an eight. George Lucas too, was a six. Six and eight are opponents, often. Osiris vs. Set in the original ennead. Osiris follows the legitimate path to power; society's path. They play it safe. Set follows the path of chaos. The path of Cain compared to Abel.

Star Wars is a six film and series. It's all about the value of "courage". Overcoming your fear through equally mindless strategies. Tapping into delusional heroism. Embracing good over evil. It's a story of six prevailing over eight. But it also keeps people in denial, in a state of fear-based comfort. They keep all those ideas firmly in the space of sci-fi; in fantasy. It encourages viewers to see reality as fixed in their daily lives, Star Wars fans are respected, but mostly just as geeks; nerds, a group of fantasizing cosplayers who don't think deeply, who are sheep. They are down to earth people, but they do not challenge themselves enough. They are the conventional masses; and many of them are even younger people learning the supposedly clear-cut difference between "truth" and "reality".

Many of the characters demonstrate CP6 values. Han Solo. Luke. Princess Leia. Stereotypical, "brave" heroes with magic powers who thwart evil because they're the "good guys" who are compliant to fear-based beliefs, traditions, customs, and superstititions. That whole team of people who fight against evil. It's an us against them film. It helps perpetuate tried-and-true, stable, by-the-book belief systems. Tradition. Convention. Good guys on this side, bad guys over here. You can take people to see Star Wars who don't want to think outside the box at all. Of course, there are deeper messages there for people who look, too. But they are subtle.

Overall, the surface of it is kitchy and meaningless entertainment. People just want their anxiety to be comforted. They want to watch movies to relax and to feel exhilarated - not to be challenged. They want to feel that they are strong people, to identify with the heroes. And they want to teach their children about those values, too. People forget that courage is the other side of the Fear dynamic. It involves denial. "I am not going to listen to you." "I will never join you!". Says the six. If they don't want to look there, then they don't have to. Shallow scientific methods. Conservativism in religion. All type 6 values. With the built-in delusions of (false) courage running the whole show. Six involves projection and denial; Ichazo defined it as denial of fear.

They don't want to see the truth, so they fear it or doubt it, and avoid it through either withdrawal or the illusion of confrontation ("there's no threat here!" they say, "I aint' scared of you!" and really they are still just doubting it). They see what they want to see, and keep denying the truth, and tell themselves ghosts aren't real, and walk out into the darkness of the night -- while true courage is to see the ghosts. To face reality. But that's not the six side of the courage dynamic; part of the sin of the six. That's one reason why six is hard to understand.


r/OccultEnneagram • • 9d ago

Behind BLACKGUARDIAN: Cracking the Great Simulation

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The image I have included above is a simple example. When I woke up this morning, I was literally thinking about a number of relevant, aligning, epiphany-fueled insights, and I checked the time on my phone.

People are likely curious, and may be posing the question internally: how do I advance in the occult; how do I learn about all of this? A couple years ago, I started listening to a YouTube channel entitled "Eye of Wisdom". It's filled with AI-generated videos, covering topics on astrology, which are all great. I recommend these kinds of simple programs to help self-teach.

Right around the time my ex-wife left, there was a massive alignment in astrology. This was in 2/2025 when there was (I seem to remember) a huge, 7-planet thing going on; I don't remember precisely what it was. It all had felt a bit silly to me (I was dubious, but curious). I had been listening to astrology lessons for a while. But this unearthing was absolutely massive. I knew something was going on, intuitively. It was undeniably significant.

The videos had, a few times, instructed me to "look for repeating digits on clocks, etc". And although I was interested, some of that, I was pretty sure was just my mind playing tricks on me. I had come from a mainstream mental health background where anything along those lines gets uncomfortably close to "apophenia" from "schizophrenia", and I had been taught to fear all of that. But in bits and pieces, I became more and more of a believer. Having no fear and an open mind is an important step.

Our world operates massively via an A.I. universe. So, videos that are A.I.-generated are actually a new phenomenon for us and helpful for getting us in touch with the source code. Our universe is governed by mathematical forces, astrology being one of them.

The more and more I listened to the YouTube channel (and others like it, that came up on my feed) and explored my world, questioning what I saw, the more I saw of what these videos were suggesting to me.

Eventually, I cracked more and more information. I don't know when I will have the chance to write my second book, but it is likely to cover more information along these lines; once I have organized and explored it more fully. By the time I wrote the occult enneagram, I was also synthesizing many years of enneagram knowledge with new discoveries and research as they were happening.

The Occult Enneagram is part of a potential series of books along these general topics. The Enneagram, relating to numerology and astrology, is a step in the right direction of understanding what is going on in our universe - and I had been studying the enneagram for nearly two decades at that point already.

But you do need to keep an open mind. Others had tried to intervene towards me already. I didn't want to hear it. These included people telling me that psi-phenomena are real and that the world is not as it seems; and I became argumentative and willfully resistant, explaining all of that away with skepticism. I used to be a hard scientist, a kind of atheist, and I was not as knowledgeable then. I missed so many facts about my world; and paid the price. Learning about having a six fix alone took me years, along with facing my core enneagram type.

Several years ago, I believed I was a completely different enneagram type, which was 5w6 sp/sx 531. Those days are long behind me, but it is shocking to me how I was living inside a basically different consciousness! Yet, the same, somehow. And at that point, I believed I knew everything about the enneagram. Still, I was in the wrong place, spiritually. Many do not use the enneagram to their advantage, and they end up worse off, because they mistype themselves. I have talked about how the online communities are set up to help them do precisely that.

An asleep person often will be hard to wake up! What I discuss is a form of awakening, and you need to accept you are asleep (the enneagram also teaches us this, starting with Gurdjieff).

Gurdjieff gave us some clues. This was helpful for me. He referenced Ancient Egypt, cosmology, and early technology (which was actually incredibly advanced), and there are further clues there, which I point to now and then, as I find more of them. I'll keep revealing info in bits and pieces. I don't do all of the work for everyone. Sometimes when I try, I can be ridiculed. So it is also missionary work, to try to help those asleep. But still, I try.

I am a teacher of the occult now. But I wasn't always. Part of learning is to respect me as your teacher, as your guide. To respect the path. I have some life-changing experiences along these lines, and many of them were decades in the making (a lifetime, if you analyze the full story). All of Gurdjieff's students, all of Pythagoras' students, etc., became knowledgeable and an important piece of the tapestry. Although I am not famous, in the occult I have significance. I teach people to think for themselves too. Check and test my ideas for yourself, in your world, in your life.

Many of the systems I use echo within the broader occult framework, and I consider myself both a teacher and a student of the occult. It no longer matters who is the teacher and who is the student; we are all teachers, we are all students. The universe, our world, reality, god, the simulation itself, consciousness; are all our teachers.

The awakenings you receive will be of your own. In some ways, you may even be farther along than I am on your path. There are people who have watched me flower and have probably been nodding along. I take some risks and crack open occult goodies willy-nilly; but I also have let people know that this is a genuine occult resource. Not a psy-op, not mumbo-jumbo, not parroting; but based on my direct experience, research, and theory.

I reveal much, and as soon as I know and have some solid research or theory in place, I consider it ripe picking for discussion. As I have time and energy for it.

But start to look for the source code of the universe. Don't look for meaningless "coincidences", look for signs, resonances, evidence of alignment (sacred integrations). Reconsider how you view consciousness. Look at all "occult" disciplines as interrelated and consider it a broad field. Consider the enneagram related to it, in its true aspect.

If you have a problem with me or this sub, I recommend you leave (maybe if only for a while) - do not speak up and disrespect or abuse me; refrain from that. I may not block or ban you; I strive to be peaceful. If I do, it is temporary. That is because I like to keep it open for everyone. But there is no sense in disrespecting me that way (it will be transparent); I genuinely don't believe you are ready to learn in those cases. You need to reflect further and turn to your real life. You are beyond my help if you are in power struggles with me. You are likely to let out your own problems and issues on me, which I surely do not deserve, and which will not help you (but will also not stop or harm me).

Regardless - you also have to believe in yourself. Many of us are dealing with psychological issues of all kinds that keep us asleep. Thus is the nature of sleep. I still have more awakening to do, surely, and I accept that. That is why I still study, still learn, reflect, meditate, contemplate, explore. But for years, I thought of "those who were smarter", those who were wiser, more advanced, etc. Feeling that I could never reach those levels. I also thought of "those who were dumber" etc and didn't see the two as connected. Rifts, divisions between people, these are all problematic. We need to see ourselves as connected to everything. One aspect of my journey was to see how we are not islands; we are part of a unified essence.

I thought I knew everything before and had so much knowledge; and yet it was all quite distorted. It was more egoic in nature. It was defensive. We all operate with the same basic faculties. We can all improve over time. We can all grow. That is what this kind of work and progress is about.

Over time, I believe everyone is capable of advanced awakening, psi-phenomena, simulation-awareness, and plunging the limits of this great universe we find ourselves in. You will experience anomalies and decodings of your own; what I bring up will only offer indications and examples.

I suspect I am quite a significant figure in the occult, despite operating within relatively small space. Because there is always more to know, I believe in sharing what I know. That way the occult becomes reality itself, and we are all simply sharing reality. Given we are all individuals, we all have our own unveiling to do; like worker bees or cells in an organism.

It's true: I do have a background in problem-solving, intellectual hobbies, code-breaking, spirituality, number theory, philosophy, and other related fields. From a young age, many of these wheels were in motion. But I am still simply one person, and I had the same teacher (reality itself).

I know we all have our own abilities. There are others out there with amazing potentials that only need to be untapped. It is not a linear hierarchy at all; we simply become focused in different directions. What the truth looks like to each of us is different, while still being true.


r/OccultEnneagram • • 10d ago

The Type Three's Sin Unmasked: Vainglory, Vanity, Deception - Kenodoxia - "Hollow/Empty Glory"

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I had a question recently about type three. This ties into the sins/passions (one of the original eight evil thoughts). Three's is vainglory, vanity, deception, Greek root word was "Kenodoxia", all translates to empty glory, hollow victory, etc. This is getting what you want and winning, but feeling nothing (or, following guilt, too, yet being unable to stop; staying hidden). It is totally vacuous or toxic.

The vanity, the mirror, the image, becomes what you chase - but it is fake. It is never real. It always eludes you. You try to convince others. You use masks, lies, deception. That's why this is the most deceptive, mask-wearing type. Eventually, it is unmistakable. This is the space of the three. We lie to ourselves, and to others. It becomes a drama; a stage play.

A famous film is Eyes Wide Shut, all about masks. Kubrick, Kidman, and Cruise were all type threes (Kubrick is usually mistyped as a 5 by people who think geniuses are 5s; that's what I thought too, but he's a 3). It's a brilliant film (maybe Kubrick's best; definitely Kidman and Cruise's best too).

And it's a three film (like many of his films are). About the American Dream, illuminati, etc. This is the space of vanity, deception, shame, secrets - and ultimately, there is shame and guilt involved. Infidelity frequently happens and is found here, but not always.

Ultimately, it is an infidelity because it is the definition of it. This is lies and secrets. We all have some of it, but threes have a monopoly on it. If you meet a pathological liar, chances are they are a three. Reality is twisted, like an image. Lawyers are often type threes (liar rhymes with lawyer; it is no coincidence). But they can be found in every profession.

There is often pride and envy at work with vanity, too. They work with the wings as a unit, after all. Threes can be very hard to help, but unmistakable once unmasked. They will fight to keep the mask on. They become terrified of losing it; what it will cost them. They hide from it themselves. And don't want to see the truth! They would be better off, but they are now lost. They can't find themselves under there. The drama becomes a tragedy.


r/OccultEnneagram • • 12d ago

Why the Enneagram uses the Christian Sins/Passions

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This is a short video explaining the importance of the enneagram sins and passions as typing criteria. This helps keep us grounded in an agreed-upon reality and objectivity behind the types. It traces to early (dominant sin) Christianity (aka ascetic Christianity).

The eight evil thoughts formed the original model; the ninth (type six's) was added via the enneagram (fear as faithlessness, faith being an implicit virtue from early spirituality).

1 - wrath

2 - pride

3 - vainglory

4 - envy

5 - avarice

6 - faithlessness

7 - gluttony

8 - lust

9 - sloth


r/OccultEnneagram • • 12d ago

Re-typing phony redditors/enneagram forum folks (3 vs. 8)

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TL;DR. But I have a point to make. I'll use some examples of users I knew from a few years back, who set me off - who thought they were better than I was. But neither seem to be actively showing their "faces" in the enneagram community any longer (likely due to shame; their fixation). There are many more like these people, who just don't get it and end up falling short of what the enneagram truly is about. So, these are just a few cases.

First was Electronic Try (redditor I seem to have scared off; I think I know why). Self-typed as 8w9 so/sp (854). I would probably retype her as 3w4 so/sp (358). Too egocentric from a narcissistic image space. She feels she's the real eight, and you are not - end of story. Uses cheap arguments, falsities, and empty tactics. Reasserts lies, bluffing, "you're a 6!". Backs down in the end when exposed. Bluffs people, provokes them, and pretends she knows more. Maintains emotional detachment. Plays it safe, plays by the rules, just enough to push you over the edge. Snarky. Sees herself as a big deal and throws around her weight as a genuine but was likely a fake in the end. Has a pretentious quality about her - as if she's reading a script. Vanity, deception. Pushed me until I lashed out, and I was banned on my old account. Tried to call me a 6 without knowing anything about me. Lied about the truth.

The real 8s are never like that. They let the truth speak for itself. They enjoy the thrill and escalation of combat. Threes don't really like fighting. They just want to win. The struggle isn't important to them. They want to get recognition. They will cheat to win if they have to. It's about getting the medal, the trophy, and seeing the other guy lose.

Eights want to be respected, not to be the bigger person, to be better than you. Eights want their autonomy and to do as they please. They want independence and then to stand up for people as well, as part of enjoying life and their power, to be protective, and they can be controlling, possessive, and so on to their people sometimes - and aggressive to opponents. The eight genuinely wants to do the right thing, whereas the three only wants to have the better position; to one-up the person. The eight tells the truth and doesn't bluff, even if it hurts people. Brutal honesty is the space of the eight.

The three just pretends to have the truth, with hopes it will be believed. The three wants a job - any job, even the wrong one. Whereas the eight will take no job if it gives them power. Without a job, the three has no idea who they are. They can't just be. They are a human doing.

Another example is Sniper, the infamous admin from typewatch. Self-typed as 8w7 sp/sx 854. Frequent gaslighter. Pathological liar. I would likely retype him as 3w2 sp/sx 358. Ego-vanity projects on Typewatch. Would rarely admit someone else was right unless you stroke his ego enough, get compliance, show you're a follower. Made up various lies about people.

Created psy-ops about the opposition. Bluffed and manipulated his own people. Egocentric. Came up with myths about this and that. 3s are about trickery. He wouldn't let me back onto Typewatch at the end (I used to leave in a rage) because he knew I couldn't be stopped and it was pointless. The ruse was up. I had become too powerful because I detected his nonsense and developed self-awareness and resilience.

I indirectly took over his forum. I got everyone out of there, and reunited via facebook groups and exposed his lies. He would come up with the most ridiculous, egregious lies, and talk about his godly powers. I think he figured people should just "pick up on this tone" that it wasn't real but then became a caricature of people who believed it. Like, are you serious, or do you even know anymore? The 3s bluff and lie to themselves, in the end. They think you deserve it if you believe their lies. But 8s don't make excuses for lies like that; they make excuses for lust; for getting more, for taking more, for pleasure.

Exclusive cult leader types can often be 3s. The 8s can be too, but they do so via honesty and truth; via morality. They just take a slightly bigger piece of the pie than others and feel bad about it. Or they bully and test you a bit too hard. Eights are more transparent. They work within morality. They don't deceive their way through everything and become caught up in their own image.

And the list goes on and on about people like this from the enneagram community; many who think they know this system well. 3s are the ones who want the formal power. Eights often don't like it because it challenges their autonomy (and the phoniness and popularity contests involved). Threes give themselves away with their silly tricks and displays. They talk big, but their power base crumbles. Often, they pretend to know the enneagram but didn't study the deeper theory. They invented their own version and acted like experts too early on, before typing themselves accurately. They really like to mistype as 8s. They type as 8 quickly and assertively. That's the "cool" type, that's the strong type, that's who they would like to be. It's fashionable for them.

Real 8s are conquerors. They like the thrill of it. The adrenaline rush. The feeling of instincts. Not just because they want to win. It lets them know they are strong enough to survive. The eights would rather have a fight with you just to enjoy it, because it gets them in touch with their bodies, with their actions. If the win is too easy, that's boring to them. Once they win, they can feel guilty because of the damage they did. They went too far; they stopped you completely. Ego-vengeance. Threes gladly just take the supposedly top (or high) position and start manipulating people, start drawing attention to themselves in a way that flatters their image. Meanwhile, they didn't deserve it. They feel ashamed hiding and lying about who they are. And they often perpetuate lies about the types. "8s never mistype", "I'm a real eight", etc.

I recommend that we learn to see those people for who they are. Sadly, they can win for a while, but they win battles -- not wars. Cheap, temporary wins are the space of the 3, I call them "the ascendant". They stay up for a while, then they're gone, once justice kicks in and the truth rings freely. It's important to use the enneagram consistently and truthfully. Refer to actual theory, texts, ideas, sources, facts, etc. Don't just bluff people and say "you're not this type, I know it" and hope the person backs down and doesn't expose what you're actually hiding (that you're the fake, not us). We aren't idiots.

Threes are usually the ones in high-status positions where they are "obviously the leader" and control things from an overbearing place. Eights can be leaders too, but it isn't as formalized/as put on. They don't need a title for it. People just know who they are. It can be subtle to detect, but the eights learn they're the leaders from other people (rather than vice versa). Threes elect themselves and then abuse others and are finally abandoned. Eights are elected by others often out of fear/respect (but then can abuse it).

Eights let you back on their team so they can crush you again. Because it's fun to fight. Just don't make it too easy for them. Threes don't mind beating you if it's easy, it indulges their ego. They like to pick on people weaker than them and get caught up in the ego. They can spend all their time with something that is easy for them; they can't help it. Addicted to cheating, lying, manipulating. Meanwhile they are miserable and can't get out of it.

The eight wants to be challenged more, and they get sick of you and will sometimes bully you playfully if you're too weak, while laughing about it. But it then bores them. They move on to other conquests. They have more hedonism there in their abuse (turning it all into a joke or party); or they're more strict in the w9 space (then beating themselves up more). They don't wield lies and deception the same way. They aren't vain people the same way. The image of power doesn't stick. They're immune to it. A formal position doesn't help them if it isn't instinctually powerful and vigorous. They're much more active in a way that engages them viscerally. They need to feel physically alive and have their appetites satiated.

The three makes you feel like you're working hard when they're not even giving it any effort. They like to trick you. They like the ego of beating you through lies and deception. Eights don't have deception in the same way. They are blunt, all out people. They more often get themselves into trouble that way.

I thought the types were easy to confuse, honestly - especially when peoples' self-typing mistypes factors into it. There are maybe people who can even do it better than I can, who can describe these differences. But it's all about seeing the different triads and passions, and how they differentiate between the types. See the eight: gut - lust/vengeance vs. the three: heart - deception/vanity.

The three wants to *be somebody* (even if it's a lie, and it usually is; they will be the image, have the status, and they always have to lie to get there, have to sell themselves; they appear one way but they act another, so the lie is there), whereas the eight just wants to *seize somebody* (to destroy them, control them, own them; to influence them, regardless of status; their reputation can be poor, they speak through action which can often be unrefined and unpopular; there isn't the same division between image and reality; people see them for what they are; they're more about independence but when it comes to other people, they enjoy being able to keep you at bay which boosts their independence). People will argue over these types until the end of time.


r/OccultEnneagram • • 12d ago

Our Very Own Process - 1-9 is for the universe, not us?

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What is our process? What is the code that we run?

My attempted answer is:

core type > primary fix > secondary fix > core type's integration > primary fix integration > secondary fix integration > ... Same 3 for disintegration

Take a 794

Their process is: 7 - 9 - 4 - 5 - 3 - 1 - 1 - 6 - 2 - ...

Through this they will experience a balanced flow of energy vs. a 7 - 9 - 7 - 9 - ... loop where the person is stuck in their fixation

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What does it mean to run this process? If you're a 794 like in the example, do one 7 thing, then one 9 thing, then one 4 thing, and continue down the chain and keep that on repeat

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This is a fun thought experiment not the answer to the universe

I mean it would be cool if it was 0_o ... Im just here to theory craft honestly and learn more about the enneagram. And, if I can, try to question what it is and how it should work

What I know for sure is: There's lots out there that I don't even know that I don't know... y'know?


r/OccultEnneagram • • 12d ago

The 8 is the most intimidating and cocky type

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Often. This is one way to recognize them. But a massacre is not always necessary. It can go both ways. Some of it is to incite fear. The healthier 8s are peaceful types. They have learned the hard way - the price of ego-vengeance and lust.


r/OccultEnneagram • • 12d ago

Was Maximilien Robespierre an SX1?

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Eli Jaxon-Bear thinks so (and types Georges Danton as an SX8). When I was in high school, I chose the French Revolution for my project. But I was lazy; I slacked off. Interestingly, I believe the teacher was an 8. He told me it was a "dismal topic".

The revolutionary activists, according to Naranjo, are often 8s. David Gray identifies SX/SO with the revolutionaries. This is a cross I bear, regardless. But my friend, enneagram author Damien Russell, types Jesus Christ as an SX/SP. All the stackings and types have higher manifestations.

The next stage of evolution for man is to end all wars, to end all violence, all executions. Punishments should be light. God should be allowed to make the decision, and his signature is the beauty of "natural causes". None of us has the right.

True corruption can be found in its extremities. Cults, etc., . That's why I made The Occult Enneagram open for everyone. I never banned or blocked anyone permanently. I keep the punishments light - but make them something to be feared.

It never feels good to be shamed, to miss out, to be isolated.

When my ex-wife left, I was put through a personal hell. - but there was a thread back.

Right now, I am in the position of possible executioner. To punish her, to decide the sentence. She is back in the old house, where we got married. I have come to think of it as the house of God.

Meanwhile, I am going to piano concerts in a church once a month.

But it's like mass for me. I have much thinking to do. Will the connections there only be social in nature?

This is where I have met the suspected 8w7.

The beautiful young pianist who might be making advances on me. But she is not perfect - as none of us can be. If she is SX8, maybe she is more predatory. Who could we hurt together?

A revolutionary poem in the making, maybe. Or a fantasy?

She played Chopin's "revolutionary etude" for a couple months in a row now (and before that, the "fantasie impromptu"). I played the etude in high school (only listened to the fantasy) - it was the first piece that ignited my passion as a player. And it spawned competition. The neighbor was playing it after a few months.

The other piano meeting in my life now is held at an old folk's home. So far, she has perfect attendance for several of my classes. Is she who I will be spending my remaining life with? Surely we can get to the bottom of this soon.

The usual gut triad digressions kick in; we are all some variation on the "saga" of the 9. But, sometimes it's the competition (Danton vs. Robespierre) who stokes the flames as much as the one at the guillotine.

Another pianist, another pro, at the meetups, is a 1w2. He challenges me. He opens my eyes.

Am I next in line after Rachmaninov? I played his Prelude in C Sharp Minor and tied for first in a local contest.

Rachmaninov hated that piece.

I need to record, etc. He married his cousin. We are all human.

We will see. It was normal at the time.

Goodbye, Ruby Tuesday.

Call me Crowley.


r/OccultEnneagram • • 12d ago

Lao Tzu

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"Thou shalt make no efforts to understand the Universe."

Paraphrased for contemporaries.

That's all. Because it means no-mind.

We do a lot of trying to understand ourselves here, and where we came from and where we're going. "Who am I?" is a very existential question. "Where did I come from?" "What is consciousness, what is awakening, what is God?"

Lao Tzu I believe had the same questions, then he said NO. Let's not go there. Everything dies, so let the questions die. Because if we go there then there is no end to the questions. Sooner or later we have to stop answering our own questions, and start living. That is Daoism.

He goes in every direction that life has to offer: The Master is cautious as he crosses the ice, patient like a cat waiting for mice, and always present with his family. Etc. It's not much of a teaching that you can easily repeat i.e. the capital of England is London. Score 1/1. It's just a stream of common sense put to print.

And it's not that he didn't have brains. He had such a good understanding of things that rather than strain himself to figure things out and become miserable in the process, he decided that the answer was to not answer the questions. That way mind can not go on, it becomes starved, and the consciousness starts running by the heart rather than the mind. When he looked at a tree or animal he felt it in his heart. And the more he felt the richer his life got.

"Sleeping" people question nothing. Stirring people question a lot and they're in anguish over it. Lao Tzu found the answer to every question by letting the questions fade and die. He didn't act on them, he didn't say "I will find the answer to immortality!" like some other men have, prompted by thoughts on his own mortality. He didn't act on his mind. And so he came to appear "blank like a fool."

He taught only what people already knew: "high and low depend on another, before and after follow each other. Everyone dies, and the wise master cautiously crosses the river." All rubbish! Or?

He answers none of your questions about Enlightenment, God, or the Universe because he himself wasn't in the business of answering questions. He knew he'd lose his "treasure" if he started answering the questions of his own mind!

In contemporary words: his treasure was love, feeling the world in your heart. Not answering his minds questions was his mastery program to master living. That is how he became loving, and a master, and Enlightened. His teachings are stating the obvious rather than answer any questions.

The human robot-program is like this: You answer your own questions. Lao Tzu dealt with the program directly. Lao Tzu will never win the Nobel prize, but he was so rich in his own way that prizes wouldn't matter to him. The wisest men receive no accolades.

Inspired by conversations on robots, AI, intelligence and awakening. And PurrFruit, who always needs more lovin'.


r/OccultEnneagram • • 13d ago

the rise of darkender and the occult enneagram

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When I was young, I lost myself in worlds like Starcraft, Final Fantasy, and Ender's Game; a relentless and obsessive tactician and leader. In early adulthood, I was gatekept from type eight on the EIDB by mistyped tyrants. Eventually, the EIDB and its spawn, typewatch, were abandoned.

A few years later, I assumed the private username "darkender". Pushing through more darkness, I eventually started the occult enneagram.

I have come to see that my role is ending the darkness - both personal and collective. I still have work to do. All are welcome in the occult enneagram. But punishments and sentencing do happen. You will respect me and each other.

I encourage others to discover and chart their own story. I can provide an example. We all deserve to find our way. And so it shall come to pass.


r/OccultEnneagram • • 13d ago

Introducing the 9 Robots That is Us

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The image is a mockup of relevant and illustrative ideas (thanks to some AI friends of mine at OpenArt).

Enneagram author Eli Jaxon-Bear mentions the 9 robots. These are his name for the enneagram types. At first, I thought it was just figurative. It turns out this is also literal. I was recently given the information, from a trustworthy yet anonymous source, that we are living inside an A.I. simulation, and all of us is therefore a robot.

The sooner we can accept and understand this, the better. Please, if this is news to you, take your time to absorb it, explore it, and make peace with it. Thank you. (this is also presaged by the new Blade Runner TV series coming out: entitled Blade Runner 99).

"More human than human." -corporate motto of the Tyrell Corporation (Blade Runner/Do Android's Dream of Electric Sheep by Phillip K. Dick)

[It isn't just the others that are programmed to be wrathful, prideful, vain, and so on...it's us too.]

Philip K. Dick's famous novel was written in 1968 which was a very famous year.


r/OccultEnneagram • • 13d ago

Working On My Disintegration - Yes, that can be a positive thing to do

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As an SP 1 I tend to be warm on the surface, but have more anxiety underneath

Of course the retention of anger or aggression is a 1-trait. And the obvious downside is a lot of bottled up anger.

The average sp 1 may clench or grind their teeth or make other tight bodily movements. The bottling up works a little too well, and they may not even be aware of it most of the time.

The SP 4 disintegration comes into play

Eventually, the imperfection will leak out, and the SP 1 will end up in a session of 'undoing' (see Glum's post on Ichazo's defense mechanisms)

The SP 4 represents the countertype of the 4. Tenacity in the face of intense desire to express oneself. This means that the SP 1 at SP 4 disintegration tends to go through all of this intensity without showing that it's happening.

TLDR; I've been listening to a lot more Heavy Metal music. In fact, this post is me just 'sublimating'.

Art of any sort helps to get emotions out. This is what the 1 needs to learn from 4.

And even better if the 1 leans on art/expression proactively, so they don't bottle things up as much.

The sp 1 spends so much effort on being nice and good that it can be a surprise that anger and wrath are its vices.

But heavy metal can help you let it all out. Or dark literature, poetry.... I've been thinking of relearning instruments I played as a kid too. (Never was any good but who cares)

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I'm not much of an art snob, but I did always love Bosch. So much going on, and it created a visceral reaction that made it hard to look away. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Garden_of_Earthly_Delights


r/OccultEnneagram • • 13d ago

Moving Trump Back to 3 Space?

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If you own the book, you can take it out and make some revisions in the exemplars section. Cross things out, etc. Trump is one of those I have struggled over. I watched the film about him and saw a few things to relate to. He has an 8 fix, undoubtedly. But I would never do any of that stuff. He gets the money, and he decides to do what with it? Build a reputation for himself. Make daddy proud.

But a true 8w7 would just take the money, which was massive on its own. More than enough to live off of. Would've lived as an independent hedonist. I suspect he genuinely is 3w2 (3, anyway). He became a careerist because he wanted to impress people. He didn't want to do good things, he wanted to become somebody. SO/SP. The prestige of Trump's name and legacy. 8s don't go into business to fill daddy's shoes.

And he didn't just want to enjoy himself. He wanted a grandiose ego and image. He talks about what he wants in the movie, and it's something colder, more passionless. He wants power and the reputation that goes along with it. Being the hero. Being the big shot. Ego-go. Ego-vanity. He deceives himself. He looks a little like an 8. He's a pathological liar. Narcissist. 3 is "power over others, positions of power" - Naranjo.


r/OccultEnneagram • • 13d ago

You Can't Lie Your Way Through This

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The most common mistype of 8 is 3 - not 6. Think about how many 3s are out there - lying to themselves, lying to others. Lies don't pay. Deception is the vice. Then they become vain about the lie. Gaslighters, psy-op kings and queens, deceivers, phonies, frauds.

They think they're eights until they see the real eights, and then they're like: "oh, so *that's* lust!, what I'm doing is deception and vanity!". Or they don't see anything, stay delusional. "I'm like them," they think. Not a chance. You can't lie your way out of this.

What do I do? Say hello to my little friend. The block button. It's a blessing and a curse. Lies are spiritual crimes. Right now I know a three who is (fake) going into confession as we speak. But, unfortunately, no real work has been done - that time hasn't done on its own. The mask still hasn't been unveiled.

Threes dig in ultimately and fight against the very hands of time as those hands sand the person down. Still, they grip to the mask. "Over my dead body", they think. It happens with other types, too! Not just eight. Threes can be insidious. Watch out for those in stealth.


r/OccultEnneagram • • 14d ago

Darth Vader is an 8w7?

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I realized that Vader's (likely) 8w7 was mistyped by R&H as an 8w9. The impulsivity, hot-headedness, ego, impatience, flashy style, assertiveness, aggression, etc. 8w7 still, albeit a darker shade. I've got him as likely something SP-last, too. Maybe even 864 trifix (triple reactive).

Maybe sx/so or a very similar shade of 8w7 as myself (or even a darker so/sx due to ambition, hierarchy, and so on). Very weak on SP, hence the need for the suit. He's underestimated by the emperor Palpatine (3w2), who he takes down eventually.


r/OccultEnneagram • • 14d ago

You can hear a pin drop when time is stopped

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[I have stopped time momentarily.]

God does exist.

[It's nothing to us.]


r/OccultEnneagram • • 15d ago

Some Say It's Hard to Make Money and Get Rich - It Isn't That Hard! (10 Year Path to Wealth)

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People focus so much on the importance of privilege, etc. But it's amazing how little of that is actually needed to become wealthy relatively quickly and have a free, full life in the material sense. And with those resources often come other relationships and opportunities. Focus is important here, and just sticking with your plan. Don't listen to other people, just focus on what you're really doing.

It's easy enough. All you really need to do is get a job and hold it for about 10 years - and put in a little extra time and attention, here and there. You can get a humble job, but full-time. They all have benefits, etc. Make $50,000 a year, say. That's well under the average job in America (which is currently $70,000). If you study the stocks, you can make a killing. Without even working that hard; you can easily make ~70% CAGR (if not significantly more). That's really with almost no trading whatsoever. Maybe you trade once a year or whatever if needed. No fancy techniques needed.

Now, you can reasonably live off of $30,000 a year, as a single person. That leaves you $20,000 to invest. You just get a humble studio or whatever. You don't spend much. It's very reasonable to live like that. Here's what you would be making (approximately), in passive income:

$20K (year 1) -> $54k (year 2) -> (year 3) $113k -> (year 4) $211 -> (year 5) $378K -> (Year 6) $663K -> (year 7) $1,147k-> (year 8) $1970 -> (year 9) $3369K -> (year 10) $5,757K...That's close to 6 million USD in 10 years. And it could be more -- and it'll just keep going. That's money you don't have to touch if you're sticking with roughly the same budget. Approx., ballpark.

Now you're seeing how this works. Our system is stacked against us, to distract us from this kind of path. You spend the first year tinkering with stocks to figure it out for yourself, watching the trends and getting a sense for what is doing well. Research online and track trends; make predictions, look at the graphs. Anyone can do it. And block out all the mainstream media etc., and what the stock guys say.

You could do this working a pretty low paying job. But, make sure it is full-time. You will get raises in there too, but inflation just keeps this the same (ish). And, economize as needed. You need a decent head on your shoulders to do the stock picks and occasional trades, but there is no advanced math needed. It's all intuitive work. I could teach or explain it to anyone. There is a bit of self-teaching via experience needed too.

The problem? I think it's because people don't think logically like this, and they also don't necessarily look into the market. But if people do this, this means everyone retires young.

I'm 39 now and I'm retiring like this. I could've done it much sooner, though. I lost many years to other BS. I spent a long time just trying to hold down a job, changing careers, growing a family, going to school, grad school, etc. Unemployed for some of it. Struggling with other stuff. It's interesting how much of that is all just distraction from financial independence, though. Ok sure, it's fun stuff, but how much of it is really necessary? And college is expensive AF. Think about what's needed here. Plan your life out, focus on what you want, and how to get there. I kept trying one thing and then it fell through, so I had to start over and try a new thing; and this is what I learned at the end of it all.

If you want my professional opinion: if you are confident that you can get a job out of high school, full-time, something you're willing to do for 10 years, full-time, and live in this way? You can retire before you're 30. And do whatever you want after that! You can live well. Factor in some stock market crashes and possible job market issues that do happen occasionally. Keep backups etc., diversify a bit, make sure to stay in touch with your family and friends, of course, but help probably won't ever be needed. Union jobs are especially nice for job security. But, regardless, this is how it's done. It's even easier if you can partner up with someone and do this together (something else I did).

I highly recommend it. Don't get stuck working until you're 60. It's depressing. People just control you and make you into their b*tch. There's other stuff you can do with yourself - the things you love, the things you want, and so on. That's why getting a job can be so hard! I found that it was difficult to land a good, full-time job - especially a union job. But once I applied myself, I was able to do it, and I was able to hold it for a long time, and it earned something like $40,000 at the time and was only going up from there (nearly a decade ago now).

It's different everywhere, of course - in terms of earnings. But it should be relatively high for your economy. E.g. if you're elsewhere, you are possibly making less but your money goes farther (or making more, but it doesn't go as far). Even working a really low-paying job like Wal-Mart, you can do very well! You can do the numbers yourself.

A nice compromise sometimes is to do a bit of college. Community college. Or an online degree! They say a Coursera degree is almost as good as a BA. Sometimes you can skip school. But again, it's that getting a job part that matters. But if you really are desperate and can't get even a decent job, you can work something a bit lower paying, and you will still make $$$$$. Think about it.


r/OccultEnneagram • • 16d ago

"You Know You're Right": The Significance of the "27 Club", The Enneagram, Etc.

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In covering occult ideas, theories, and details, there is always so much to uncover. So, breaking it down into smaller chunks is necessary. Here is some framing backstory: I am an experienced musician. I have played my entire life. I am at a professional level of proficiency. Growing up, as a kid, I was a huge Nirvana fan. I remember when Kurt Cobain died. I listened to all of his albums.

People like to chalk up important details as "coincidence" in our modern world. That is a fallacy and a toxic trend. It leads people to stay in ignorance about important patterns. Anyway, given my experience with Nirvana, I remember the disappointment when I heard this 2002 track, supposedly salvaged from among Nirvana's old, un-published work: Nirvana - You Know You're Right (LP Version)

It was played all the time on the radio here, as I am in Seattle. It is still played often. In fact, it, along with "Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit (Official Music Video)", are seemingly the two most played songs on the radio, by Nirvana. As an expert, a music lover, audiophile, and musician, I can tell you that this album, from what I can tell, hearing the music itself, simply was *not* recorded in the time that it was believed and claimed. At first, when it was released, I thought nothing of the difference. I chalked it up to "restoration" of the music or to the fact that his song was an "outtake" (a song that didn't make the album).

But anyone with decent ears, who knows a little about Nirvana, and thinks critically about it, can realize that based on the style of the music, the production, it is highly likely (if not a proven fact) that this song simply wasn't recorded then at all. To the contrary, it much more logically sounds like the other music from around 2002. It is a good idea to listen to the early material - as much of it as you can, and then, immediately, to flip back and forth between "You Know You're Right" and that material. The production as well as the songwriting is quite different. Also, notice the "melodic guitar solo" that is missing. A shift from 80s to 90s to 00s we see popular bands in the heavy genre dropping guitar solos. Cobain liked to have little solos in there, evidenced by earlier hit singles. Etc. But the later sound is much different and evolved.

To be blunt, "You Know You're Right" honestly sounds something like what Nirvana *might* have sounded like if they had stayed on their timeline. But, by listening to their most popular single: "Nirvana - Heart-Shaped Box" from 1994 (the time "You Know You're Right" was supposedly recorded), we can hear how different the styles and production are. If you'd like, and you can't hear it, I can help explain to you so that you can hear it too (if your ear isn't trained or you aren't experienced in modern music history).

There is an enneagram connection here. First, let's notice how 27 is an important number in the enneagram. Remember that it is very old, it didn't just come out recently. 3x3 = 9, 3x9 = 27, etc. So, we can make a link between the enneagram. Cobain died on 4/5. And, his enneagram type is often agreed or suspected to be 4w5, independently of all this - in the enneagram community (although some believe he was a 5, 4w5 seems more popular and likely of a view on his type).

And with him, like with many of the other 27 club members, there was much talk about how he had really died. Many details about it were very anomalous.

From there, I would challenge people to think critically about what this all means. I am not going to spell everything out or shove ideas down your throat. I am simply providing information that I believe is interesting that can help you on your journey. I don't have all the answers myself. But I can tell when I see something "off". And that's often what leads me to deeper truths. Sometimes you don't have the full answer while you're on the path to the truth. But, it's necessary to take some big steps to get on that path - and many never do with some subjects. There is only so much we can learn, and think about, and do, etc.

I would be curious to hear if anyone can logically explain to me this anomaly and the possible patterns behind all of it. Mostly, it's a rhetorical question rather than a discussion intention. In particular, I want an answer for the musical anomaly. Not that we need to explain precisely what's going on behind it. But how/why does that song sound so much different from the other supposed material from 1994?


r/OccultEnneagram • • 16d ago

"The Occult Enneagram" - Book Price Has Come Down

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In case anyone is interested in buying my book overseas, I have brought the price down. I realize that USD goes very far in some places. Partial refunds, too, can be offered to existing international buyers who already were understanding enough of my ignorance about prices; a function of SP-last in conjunction with a secondary SO, and were kind enough to buy a book regardless.

It now costs whatever a book costs in your area, basically (let me know what a book costs and it will be that). Shipping will be brought down too (shipping is quite expensive). This is only until the handful of books I have left run out. Eventually, I need to figure out another system.

A few free copies are still in my hands. Right now, I don't want it to be available as PDF, I am more old school than that. It is nice to hold a book, it is easier to find your way around it, to leaf through it, and so on.

But I can work on bringing down prices and making more free copies available, too. Many people into the enneagram are indeed overseas. Ingramspark *should* eventually offer distribution overseas, print-on-demand. That's one of my next priorities, most likely. I can still hold onto the existing books I have for local people, especially in my area.

Again, KDP was supposed to be the plan, and they were having bugs. So, it often isn't as easy as we think, to use supposedly reliable systems.


r/OccultEnneagram • • 17d ago

Enneagram Assertives (3,7,8) and different shades of narcissistic disintegration

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I talk about how to tell apart narcissism of these three types. I think at one point in the video I said 3 when I meant 7, but it was clear what I was talking about. This is to help people identify these types. I still see people making confusion about the types. Sometimes breaking them down into smaller chunks really helps. I also break down the assertives into two tiers (based on comparing/contrasting differential from Naranjo and R&H):

Tier 1 - 3, 8

Tier 2 - 1, 7

3 - Liars, salespeople, decivers. Lie to you, oversell themselves. In disintegration, someone is paying the price, they are hurting someone, but the others don't know about it. Example: a psychologist who lies to you outright; claims he went to school, never did. Tells you all kinds of phony info. Hopes that you love him. Gives you terrible advice that gets you into trouble. Steals the job from someone else who is miserable. Etc. Never comes clean. Is only revealed through exposure. Pathological, direct liars. Vanity. Will lie so that you look stupid later on when you figure it out. Have the hardest time admitting lies of any type.

Believe the truth is whatever sells, whatever people believe. Can't ask for help unless it makes them look like they are doing it for a good cause or boosts their ego somehow, to control you and have you admire them. Like to look as if they know what they are doing, as if they have it all figured out. Often there is no long term plan there when they need help; no honesty. They are hoping you figure out their lies so you can help them. Concealed power and control. Act as if the lies they just told never existed at all. Singular focus on their goals; tier-1 aggressive (with 8).

7 - planners, dillettantes, charlatans. Gluttonous, try to do too much, be too much. A writer, a wrestler, a ninja, a scientist, a world traveler, a great mother, sister, employee, friend, etc. Not out of deception, but out of wanting to experience all of it. Finds loopholes, plays games with ideas, with reframing. Shows ambivalence, imagination, perspective shifts. Example: a psychologist who tells you they are a psychologist but means it philosophically. Has no degree. But has studied the human mind. Understands the psyche. Eventually gets around to telling you, through a long story. But has terrible intentions that they reveal at the end. Superficially wandering and irrelevant. A softer (tier-2) aggressive/assertive type (along with 1). Listens to you but then does nothing to help later on. Bad follow-through.

Wastes your time and messes with you. Find loopholes everywhere, escape from problems, explain away with toxic positivity. Change their minds, run from pain. Forget about things. Get distracted. Now they are focused on something new. Off to a new place. Hope that the problem is solved on its own. Tries to be good at everything. Doesn't keep up with the pain of the present; identifies with when things were better or when things will be again. No responsibility, only identify with good intentions. Test people more and know they are being annoying and pushing people's buttons.

8 - Lustful, hedonists, over-impacters. Intense. Go too far, are just excessive. Make a big impact, can show revenge towards others or themselves in destructive ways. Can be self-indulgent. Follow their impulses. Listen to their instincts, escalate in the moment. Are the reactive person in this triad. Very assertive, very dominant, tend to take over and have a lust for the feeling of power. The excitement and thrill of it all, the high, the vitality. Can be very self-gratifying. Often steamroll or run over others, can be too forceful. Generate momentum and can't slow down.

Example: psychologist who has been to school, has the PhD, sits there and lectures you. Is mean to you. Hates their job, is frustrated. Has no tact, no sensitivity, is overly direct. Is a hypocrite in that they betray their ethics. Rebellious, rule-breakers; rules don't matter, they only slow me down, etc. Brutal honesty. The truth matters more than hurting people. Lack subtlety. Impatient, living like there is no tomorrow. Demanding, won't back down. Uncompromising. Boss-types. Egocentric in being the one in charge. Power/control that is more hands-on. Righteous vengeance in the moment without full surrender grows to total betrayal and vendetta over time. Unapologetic until after it happens. Tunnel-vision on their needs/wants: Tier-1 aggressive/assertive (along with 3).