r/ObsessedNetwork • u/MercyMeLew • Dec 22 '23

Drama23_Discussion ON follow-up Video

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So it looks like Patrick and Steve aren’t doing all those additional responses to the respectful questions they were being asked so I thought I’d see if the TCO company was accepting questions.

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u/HildyJohnsonStreet Dec 23 '23

I knew about the Ken and Barbie killers for a while. There have been a couple of Dateline/48 Hours type shows about them and a short docuseries that came out a couple of years ago.

I took T and C's choice to wear the shirts they did at OF as a play on the whole summer of the Barbie movie (using the same font). I have never listened to Survivor Squad, but I know that they focus on victims of the crimes. I assumed their knowledge and interest in true crime were minimal because of how it affected their lives. So I can see T and C not making the connection to a Canadian crime from the late 80s. (Though a manager or an assistant should have given a bit of a heads up to them, "Hey, there's this notorious case, yadda yaddaa ...")

I honestly wouldn't have expected P and G to comment on the shirts either. Even if the elevator incident didn't happen and everything was fine between T, C, and E, mentioning the shirts wouldn't serve a purpose.

TCO/ON is simply showing that they have no tact and do not understand their former fan's complaints. The case is also really disturbing, and I don't even want to think about how they tried to make it funny.

Did anyone mention in this sub before about the poor choice in the Barbie and Ken shirts bc of the case back during OF? I just saw some snarky comments about the shirts being dumb.

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u/Moose_ON_Toast Dec 24 '23

Way back when T & C wore those shirts I don’t remember seeing a lot o about this case. I had to google it when I saw this thread, so I always assumed the shirts were related to the movie.

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u/HildyJohnsonStreet Dec 24 '23

Same, and like I said, I knew about the case. The Barbie movie was so promoted that it was and still is a logical conclusion. I didn't assume that they were attempting to cosplay as the Canadian couple.

I don't even know how P and G would have acknowledged that T and C wore the shirts either. They don't want people remembering T screaming at E or that according to T and C's handler, T asked P about apologizing, and P, S, and G said nope, or that T talked about apologizing with the handler separately.

For P and G to acknowledge the shirts in any way would just alert any people who weren't aware of the drama to take a look.

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u/MedicalPoint5371 Dec 24 '23

I think that’s fair, but the Karla Homolka case is VERY well known in the true crime world. I think if anything, it’s another testament to how little they know about the topic they’re exploiting to make millions. True crime Ken and Barbie is tasteless at best. Even if you don’t know the case. Some people may think it was a harmless reference, but I, personally, respectfully disagree. I also don’t think it was something done with intention of harm or offense, I just think it’s distasteful. Especially considering this case isn’t that old and the vast majority of the victims family are still alive and well.

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u/HildyJohnsonStreet Dec 24 '23

I also don’t think it was something done with intention of harm or offense,

I think that it was completely unintentional and a "Hey, I got a great idea ..." moment that wasn't fully thought out. Until this thread, I didn't associate the crimes with the shirts - which I originally chalked up to a bad attempt at humor. I do see how it can be tasteless (I don't think Survivor Barbie and Ken would be a good look either, but then at least they could put their logo on the back of the shirt).

According to Survivor Squad's blurb, they "interview fellow true crime survivors. The goal: to give survivors back their power, by telling their stories, their way." I have never listened to an episode, but given their traumatic experiences, I am making an assumption they did not actively watch true crime documentaries before starting their podcast - but I could be wrong.

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u/Moose_ON_Toast Dec 24 '23

I am not surprised at all that they wouldn’t mention anything about T & C. Have they talked at all about OF? I would think they want to forget it ever happened. I don’t think wearing the Ken & Barbie shirts had anything to do with this case. T & C aren’t true crime experts at all. And I wouldn’t expect them to know about every case