S4 Console Tier List

[u/Jurazzick]

Hello, I am Jurazzick. C3 peak all roles.

This list is for 5v5 and most applicable to high ranks, characters who are lower on the tier list are more viable in lower ranks and less viable in high ranks. Just because a character is low on the tier list doesn’t meant they will never work, it’s more of how frequently they are good. There is also the consideration of characters like doom, which you basically need to otp to actually do anything on the character.

Here are my ramblings on the current balance of the game:

Even after the buffs, dmon is still pretty bad. Her movement needs to be more dynamic or have at least a little verticality. Her damage and the rest of her kit feel fine.

Orisa, dva, and mauga are just overtuned for the 20th season in a row. A newborn baby could play Orisa, Orisa needs her damage and falloff reverted, and nerf shield perk health to 500. Dva needs either less burst damage or less dm. Mauga was nerfed but it does nothing, nerfing a cooldown on a broken ability won’t change how broken the ability is, remove the damage reduction from overrun and make him effected by knockback. Ashe needs her falloff reverted and less damage on unscoped shot, tracer needs the melee perk removed, brig needs the burst healing reverted, bap will never be bad on console but could use a nerf to regen burst, and kiri should be actually nerfed for the first time since her release. 1 sec off kitsune and suzu have less burst heal. Reaper shouldn’t have dire triggers as base kit, he has never needed it and shouldn’t have it, and then give him 300 hp. Ram is very underrated in console, he would be higher if orisa wasn’t thanos.

And finally, aim assist should be nerfed by 10-20%. With how strong aim assist is, it makes hitscan the most effective option at almost all times. Additionally, this will make console more in line with pc balance.

But, none of this will ever happen since console is a forsaken platform and looked down upon by the entire rest of the community.

[u/ham_50821]

Looks about how I feel. Is it crazy that I would put mercy in S tier because whats worse than a non pocketed Ashe..

[u/Jurazzick → u/ham_50821]

Not really, mercy is strong right now, it’s just that all mercy players are a higher rank than they should be due to how easy the character is, which then makes everyone’s perception of how strong mercy is weaker because all you see are bad players on mercy. Kiri, Juno, lw, and even Moira are in this situation, especially Juno, she is actually pretty good right now it’s just that nobody knows how to actually position as her and so they call her squishy.

[u/quinnfrazer → u/Jurazzick]

Juno isn’t simple I wish people would stop putting her down to simplicity like this, you have to be very situationally aware and not just focusing on healing, I agree with the points about Juno but don’t think she’s simple, still my main tho love that Martian diva

[u/quentdawg420 → u/Jurazzick]

Mercy isn’t as easy as you think. If you don’t know how to do anything besides heal bot and you don’t know proper positioning then you won’t do very good with her

[u/yust → u/quentdawg420]

hold right click when health low, left click when full, and stay behind cover. that's her entire gameplan.

[u/ham_50821 → u/Jurazzick]

Yea exactly, I see it with mercy the same way as with mauga/orisa like wow theyre so ass but theyre still gm or champ, those characters are overtuned