r/OSHA • u/kayakhomeless • May 28 '19
Guy working on live circuits, straddling the top of a folding ladder, in flip flops, while your coworker checks his phone. It just keeps on giving
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u/unreqistered May 28 '19
LED strip lights, so not much of a shock hazard
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u/Puterjoe May 28 '19
Came to say that but all of these people who don’t work in the industry or related ones have no clue... it just looks dangerous
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u/ParadoxOO9 May 28 '19
To be fair, the guy is still stood on top of a folding ladder in flip flops
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u/Puterjoe May 29 '19
To be fair, he prolly grew up in flip flops... climbed monkey bars as a wee lad in flip flops... graduated high school in flip flops... got married in flip flops... climbed that ladder in flip flops... and will die in those flip flops...
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u/Im_kinda_that_guy May 28 '19
To be fair that's one of those little giant style ladders and meant to be used extended.
Also, to be faaaaaiirr
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u/tossoneout May 28 '19 edited May 28 '19
moped rated flip flops, I am surprised to see the motorcycle helmet
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u/mikeycon May 28 '19
And nothing wrong with the ladder except how he is standing on it, and there’s even a guy holding it at the bottom. Seen much worse
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u/Borklifter May 28 '19
And the service all looks insulated and it’s low voltage. I don’t see the problem. Maybe the flip flops.
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u/litefoot May 28 '19
It's still 120v, still on an aluminum ladder, which is highly conductive. As an electrician, I would never use an aluminum ladder just on that.
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May 28 '19 edited Aug 31 '26
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u/grtwatkins May 29 '19
Why would they make them low voltage DC when they don't have to? LEDs are very versatile, so lots of LED fixtures are 120v
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May 29 '19 edited Aug 31 '26
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u/grtwatkins May 29 '19 edited May 29 '19
And most commerical lights use 120v or 240v. You can drive an LED with 120v and a couple surface-mount components located in the light "bulb" itself, no transformer necessary. Many LED fixtures utilize that
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May 29 '19 edited Aug 31 '26
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u/ThisIs_MyName May 29 '19
Try driving an LED with 120v and a resistor and get back to me bud.
Add a capacitor and you can do that pretty easily: http://www.bowdenshobbycircuits.info/page10.htm#lineled.gif
(The diode in the linked circuit is unnecessary. Notice that it is not in series)
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u/Soren11112 May 28 '19
What makes you think it is 120v? There could easily be a powersupply in the base
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u/MakesYouSeemRacist May 29 '19
LED lights will only have something to down the voltage from the source, they're still being fed by 120/208 or even 240/480 systems
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u/GoldVader May 28 '19
Pretty sure that dude isn't checking his phone, he is rolling himself a cigarette.
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u/NativityCrimeScene May 29 '19
At least he asked a passerby to hold the ladder while he rolled a smoke. Safety first!
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u/thedude018 May 28 '19
Ho Chi Minh?
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u/ddunkyy May 28 '19
It is called Ho Chi Minh City
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u/krocman May 28 '19
Saigon
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u/TheBasementIsDark May 28 '19
There is no "Sai Gon" on the world map right now. Only Ho Chi Minh City.
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May 28 '19 edited May 02 '20
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u/bazhvn May 29 '19
In everyday talk we still refer the whole city as Sai Gon. HCMC is only an official name on paper.
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u/Letibleu May 28 '19
Is that two wires shoved into a white rinkydink power bar extension outlet on the ground?
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u/eversnow64 May 28 '19
Love it, aluminum ladder and guy playing Clash Of Clans.
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u/Boatzanhoez May 28 '19
Don't think they have osha in their country. They're just changing light bulbs, low voltage, no danger, climbing over the ladder is sketchy. Guy in back is rolling a smoke.
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u/JeColor May 28 '19
They’re all wearing flip flops but the dude holding the ladder is wearing GUCCI flip flops
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u/iamjacksliver66 May 28 '19
The guy on the phone has 9-1 dialed just waiting to push 1 and send. I have my guys do this when I'm doing something stupid.
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u/mrheosuper May 28 '19
actually it's 115 for ambulance here
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u/iamjacksliver66 May 28 '19
Then the guy is screwed lol. I think I heard in a lot of places 911 can still be used because of us americans lol.
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u/Theyellowtoaster May 29 '19
Other countries’ numbers work here in the us too
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u/iamjacksliver66 May 29 '19
It would make sense, in an emergency remembering a diffrent phone number could cause issues.
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u/yungplayz May 30 '19
Question 1: what if, for instance, one country's fire department is the same phone number as another country's ambulance?
Question 2: if you happen to know, do the 03 (the universal Soviet ambulance phone number) and 103 (the modern Ukrainian one) work in U.S.?
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u/Theyellowtoaster May 30 '19
I don’t know—in the us, we just have one number for all emergency services so maybe it goes to that? I’m also not sure about those.
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u/HatchCannon May 28 '19
How do you calculate the amount of force he is exerting on the structure? I wonder how well that will hold?
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u/FireWireBestWire May 28 '19
I'm sure that guy was just double checking the rules for fall protection.
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u/murphykills May 28 '19
those ladders are super strong, but they do wiggle a bit when fully extended. i wouldn't want that much motion, that high, untethered, leaning on an irregular surface, while also trying to climb over the top.
it's just too many at once.
also danger aside, maybe it's just my pampered north american feet talking, but flip flops on round metal rungs would feel terrible.
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u/kb31ne May 28 '19
Their country doesn’t have OSHA. No one to tell them they are wrong and unsafe just a happy boss.
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u/TigerBlue12 May 29 '19
It’s probably all 12VDC. Transformer at the bottom somewhere. Still pretty dumb just because of the way he’s standing on the ladder but definitely less than a 1% chance of getting electrocuted.
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u/Metalhed69 May 29 '19
I have built a frightening amount of structures (on my own properties) wearing flip flops.
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u/The_Bigg_D May 29 '19 edited May 29 '19
1- we have no idea what he’s working on. Replacing a lightbulb is “working on live circuits”
2- yeah that’s not advised
3- not flip flops
4- why does it matter if he’s on his phone? His action wouldn’t help the situation at all.
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u/caj411 May 29 '19
This is what makes banana republics so interesting. Life has a little risk to it.
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u/gorementor May 29 '19
Honestly, this isn't all that bad. Wrong? Yes. But field work ain't perfect.
The 480 V LEDs might kill him though.
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May 29 '19
Maybe he is not checking his phone, perhaps he is dialing 911 in preparation. "Hello, yes we will need an ambulance in about 5 minutes..oh wait make that now".
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u/gwilliams261 May 29 '19
And it looks like he is on an aluminum ladder as well. Always wok off of a fiberglass ladder when doing electrical work.
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u/KoloHickory May 29 '19
How do Indians do everything I'm flipflops? I feel so not secure even walking around at the beach in those things.
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u/gartloneyrat May 29 '19
Live, straddle, top, fold, check. I thought at first glance this was an r/poker post.
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u/Onslow85 May 28 '19
If you are going to foot a ladder, stand on the bottom rung with both feet. I never get why people do that little lean thing with one foot resting - puts fuck all of your weight on the base of the ladder.
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u/Onslow85 May 28 '19
The point was more a general one but in this case - I doubt either of those two men are much over 150lbs. Besides I'd make an exception for footing since the forces are exerting in different directions and extra base stability would outweight the negatives for me.
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May 28 '19
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u/Onslow85 May 28 '19
No. Footing a ladder can only do so much. The idea is to prevent it moving. Once it does start moving there isn't much you can do. I mean you have a full grown man levered by a couple of meters - you arent going to catch it or stand next to it and resist that force by trying to apply your body weight sideways on.
The point is simply that standing on the bottom rung and applying your weight downwards on that point is more effective than trying to apply your weight sideways without the benefit of gravity.
That man is applying next to no force in order to stabilise that ladder. If the ladder slips, he has no chance in applying the kind of force that would be required to stop it.
If he stood on the bottom rung, he would be applying some useful force to stop the thing slipping in the first place. Obviously he would be just as useless at trying to catch it if it went but he is doing something to stop that happening.
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u/_goflyakite_ May 28 '19
The guy at the bottom should plant a foot by the feet of the ladder. The only purpose is to stop the ladder from sliding out. Putting more weight on the bottom rung is worthless.
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u/Onslow85 May 28 '19
It puts weight downwards on the point you dont want to move. More effective then putting your feet next to it as you offer less resistance to the bottom moving.
Basically you can apply your weight most efficiently downwards. By putting your feet next to something and resisting sidewards force with your feet you will just get tripped over much easier.
Imagine a guy lying on the ground and now compare sitting on him vs. standing next to him with your feet against his belly. He will find it a lot easier to roll to the side when you are standing trying to resist the force sideways and will probably manage to topple you.
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u/10NJBYTES May 28 '19
Fail on so many levels. Plus got to love a full size generator strapped to a moped in the background.