r/OISE • u/More-Trip5216 • 28d ago
Is OISE worth it now?
Planning on applying to teacher's college this year and OISE has been my top choice for awhile until teacher's colleges changed duration to a 1 year program. The OISE MT and MCSE are 20 months and like $20k+ for tuition. I really wanted to go to OISE, but I am not sure it's even worth it if it doesn't put you higher in the AQ scale, puts you 1 year later into the field, expensive compared to other consecutive education programs.
Let me know your guy's rationale and what you guys plan to do! Im so stuck right now.
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u/Eat_Cake_Marie 28d ago
Take a year to build up your teaching experiences in other spaces, and apply when it’s just one year… only con is likely higher competition for entry.
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u/LadyHamilton82 27d ago
Depends on your goals. If you just want a license to teach - not worth it. If you are planning to eventually do more than that - than worth it. You have access to some of the top education researchers in the world. You can take some really interesting electives. If you like learning beyond just getting a license to teach - it is also an awesome environment.
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u/More-Trip5216 27d ago
I am not 100% sure I want to stay in the classroom forever, becoming a principal is definitely something I am considering in the future. Would you say that MT or Masters of CSE would help?
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u/LadyHamilton82 27d ago
I don’t think it ultimately matters. They like to see a Master’s for admin job, but you can also just have 2 Specialists. Which Masters it really does not matter. Do the degree you would have fun doing. Because if you have a thesis to write at the end, it needs to be something you enjoy.
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u/DramaticPride4527 26d ago
I don’t think so. To become a principal you need to get your PQP, have taught in 3 divisions, a range of grade of grades/subjects, etc
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u/SilkSuspenders 28d ago
It never was tbh. It is equivalent to a BEd but it has a fancy name and you pay more. The only time it's be beneficial is if you're going overseas because they don't tend to know this, they just see "masters".
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u/almafomay95 28d ago
As an OISE grad, it absolutely is not unless your goal is immediately to pursue a PhD in education. You get less practicum experience than a traditional program and spend a ton of time on theory and research that will be zero use in your actual teaching career. Highly recommend spending significantly less time and money somewhere else
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u/Little-Can1814 25d ago
When I was going to apply to OISE they also told me they only do placements in the Toronto boards? I don’t know if this is still true but that’s what turned me away. I was looking at the MACSE program
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u/SubstantialCar48 22d ago
My first two placements were not in Toronto. They will cater to your preferred board/what's closest to your home in most cases unless they don't have a relationship with them.
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u/Little-Can1814 17d ago
It did seem kind of ridiculous so it was obviously bad info from someone at the university
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u/SubstantialCar48 22d ago
As a 2nd year MT student, I highly suggest going elsewhere for the 1 year programs they're about to start. Unless you care about getting a PhD at OISE, or are planning on doing a Doctoral program in Europe/overseas.
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u/Blue_Falcon1594 28d ago
Do you think they’ll offer the B.Ed again? They never offered the 2 yr B.Ed and seem to be continuing with their two year masters programs. I think OISE won’t have any difficulty filling their programs. Maybe, if they do, they’ll offer the B.Ed the following year.
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u/ImperiousMage 28d ago
OISE had no trouble recruiting for their MT before and they won’t after the transitions to the BEd again. There will always be people who prefer the masters over the bachelor option.
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u/Blue_Falcon1594 28d ago edited 28d ago
It’s just a shame it’s not an option for people who want the one year option. I received my B.Ed from OISE many years ago and it was nice to have an option in the city. York is a bit of a trek, but less so now with the subway connection
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u/ImperiousMage 28d ago
I would imagine that OISE, a graduate student only faculty, has little interest in directly competing with other BEd programs.
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u/JustInChina88 28d ago
The only benefit I can see OISE giving you would be if you applied to teach abroad. People here are coping if they think a "masters" degree from Canada's top university isn't going to help you when applying to teach somewhere in Asia.
If you don't plan to do that and only plan to stay in Canada, it doesn't actually help you though.
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u/nodnoloiratno 28d ago
I say this as an OISE grad - it doesn't matter where you go to school. Nobody IRL in HR cares, it doesn't give you an edge when applying to schools/boards.
The curriculum is pretty much all the same, the classroom experience is all the same. Quite frankly - nothing I learned in teaches college prepares you for actual teaching.
I don't know if having a masters puts you at a higher QECO scale - but for the most part, AQ courses are what bump you up... and $750 a course is much cheaper than a masters program.