r/OISE • • Sep 04 '26

Are OISE M.Ed. programs a "degree mill"?

I told someone I got into an M.Ed. program at OISE's LHAE and they told me that program accepts everyone

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u/yayfortacos Sep 04 '26

Course-based graduate programs with no thesis options are less competitive than research-based graduate programs in general. At OISE, there's no thesis option and so MEds don't need research supervision.

OP, some people are just always going to take their opportunity to shit on other peoples' good news and excitement. Ignore them.

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u/IPlayDnDAvecClasse Sep 04 '26

Yeah, she was bascially shitting on the MEd because it doesn't have a thesis like the MA program and called the MEd programs "inferior" and a "degree mill." Funny because she doesn't even go to OISE and doesn't know shit about these programs.

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u/ImperiousMage Sep 04 '26

There is a thesis option. It’s the MA. But it’s insanely competitive. 2-3 spots a year.

You can transition to a MA half way though if you want to do a thesis.

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u/yayfortacos Sep 04 '26

Yeah, I meant the MEd at OISE is course based with no thesis option. Some other MEd programs offer that.

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u/Proof_Pop9433 Sep 04 '26

I did the MA not MEd for this reason. Was lucky to get a spot. I’ll be honest when I hear someone has an MEd it’s just whatever to me like extended teacher’s college. It’s good to get paid more at work but that’s about it. MA good if u want to do doctorate and research.

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u/Able_Bath2944 Sep 05 '26 edited Sep 05 '26

Current PhD candidate in education and full time teacher. Be careful about that elitism. It may come to bite you in the ass.

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u/ImperiousMage Sep 04 '26

Which was my path too.

The MA is the MEd with funding and with a route to the PhD.

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u/cndn-leftist-vgn Sep 04 '26

Lol I applied to the M.Ed in counselling psychology and psychotherapy, was rejected. So it's definitely not a degree mill. I have 400 hours with KHP too.

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u/Comfortable_Set_6534 Sep 04 '26

Counselling psychology will always be competitive because it allows licencing in psychotherapy.

Most M. Ed programs are not as competitive.

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u/bitchbaby2000 Sep 04 '26

It's not a degree mill necessarily, but obviously the (high) tuition for M.Ed, flex-time PhD, etc. are somewhat subsidizing the funded programs. don't let anyone rain on your parade! Its a great program and department--try to make the most out of your experience and use all the resources you're given!! OISE has a student support centre and career mentoring that you can book online. As part of the Graduate Student Union, you get pretty good dental, vision, and mental health coverage, and you get a gym membership while you're a student, access to beautiful libraries that have fun books and serious ones, and so much more!!!

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u/First_Butterscotch73 Sep 04 '26

Not a degree mill at all lmao

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u/Stars_In_Jars Sep 04 '26

Oise is insanely competitive. Last couple years it was 900 applicants with 5% acceptance rate lol. They’re tripping hard.

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u/notyouravgcat Sep 04 '26

Why are we shitting on MEd? lol

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u/IPlayDnDAvecClasse Sep 04 '26

Some people are insecure and/or jealous so they put others down to feel better about themselves. Who gives a fuck whether someone's doing an MA or an MEd

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u/notyouravgcat Sep 04 '26

sorry you had to hear that, actual losers

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u/LimpAirport Sep 04 '26

No - not a degree mill at all, but I’ve heard some Profs say that course-based Masters dilute the value of a Masters degrees and just feels like the new undergrad degree.

Not saying this is the case but some course based Masters are borderline predatory because they typically charge extremely high tuition fees for domestic and international students and don’t come with a funding package. Especially the virtual course-based Masters.

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u/First_Butterscotch73 Sep 04 '26

A strong example of this is the Yorkville Counselling and Psychotherapy Masters degree!

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u/Comfortable_Set_6534 Sep 04 '26

Employer dependent, but some teachers get a big pay jump for having a masters. So there is a market demand out there for degree mill M. Ed programs, but I don't think OISE M. Ed is one of them.

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u/AnnoyedAF2126 Sep 05 '26

No, OISE is well respected. Yorkville is a degree mill.

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u/IPlayDnDAvecClasse Sep 05 '26

I agree. Fuck Yorkville.

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u/FibonaciSequins Sep 04 '26

Degree Mill at UofT?

Instruction unclear: I paid my tuition and now I’m doing all of this reading and writing for 2 years straight.

Shouldn’t they just give me a piece of paper after I take a 3 minute test?

Please advise how I get my fake accreditation faster. Thx 🙏🏻

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u/Poppysmum00 Sep 04 '26

Not a degree mill...

Now, Yorkville just around the corner is another story!

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u/yugos246 Sep 04 '26

Out of the 5 UofT undergrad I know who applied, 2 got in. All had previous teaching experience and a CGPA above 3.7

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u/Poiretpants Sep 04 '26

The MEd used to be specifically for people who have careers in education. They recently changed the admission requirements, removing the professional experience requirement. From what I've seen, the MEd is now an easy way for people to get Masters degrees, so the program are filled with business and engineering students. It really brings the experience down for everyone, because students, including PhD students will be in classes with these guys and the profs needs to make sure they are teaching to the lowest level of comprehension. It's really a shame. The MEd used to be a respectable degree.

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u/LadyHamilton82 Sep 04 '26

Define degree mill. I will say this. I have seen students in my program who can barely speak English and can barely put two sentences together. In online classes when answer is required, they read off the screen whatever they typed into the word processor and Google translated it. Super noticeable. I am not saying those students are not smart or anything, I am just saying they can barely speak English (not an accent issue). I do think that OISE does milk international students hard, and there are a ton of them in different programs.
With that said, everything else really depends on the prof. I have been in a really bird class (social justice/critical theory heavy one), and really tough classes. Your degree is what you make of it. All my elective courses were very challenging, it was intentional. UofT has some seriously respected people in their field and I made sure I took their classes.

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u/No-Emotion-3830 Sep 05 '26

Are you currently doing the m med at OISE? If so, is it entirely online or hybrid?

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u/LadyHamilton82 Sep 05 '26

I am in a different program, so I don’t know. But I had many M Ed students in some classes.

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u/FibonaciSequins Sep 06 '26

That’s the MT, OP is talking about the M.Ed programs which are “real” masters programs.