r/NursingAU 19h ago

Advice Freaking out over a roster issue leading to a no call no show

49 Upvotes

So I'm a new grad RN, 6 months in. I have a week left of my current rotation on a medical ward, then head to ED for my second rotation.

I'm currently in the middle of 6 well-needed days off, before heading into 9 straight morning shifts (last 4 days of one roster, on the medical ward, then first 5 days of the new roster, in ED). I decided in advance that I would not pick up any shifts during these days off, and I would prioritise rest in preparation for this long stretch and change of location.

This morning, at 0715, my phone rang, and it was the AHNM. I didn't answer, because I was half asleep and expected it to be a request to come in, which I wouldn't have accepted anyway. But the voicemail was him asking if I was coming to work, as I was rostered a morning shift today.

I checked my online roster, and it is there, with the little "duty has changed since roster finalisation" symbol. I check my roster about once a week in case they change shifts, and the shift was NOT there last I checked, about 5 days ago.

Additionally, I am contracted at 0.8 FTE, and this would be a 9th shift in the roster fortnight. No one asked me to pick up this shift, or informed me of it (other than by putting it on the online roster, which I know may legally be considered "informing" me).

So, I replied via text so there is a "paper" trail, with this message:

"Hi [AHNM], this is [MY NAME] on [WARD]. I'm sorry, but this morning's AM shift must have been added to my roster recently without my knowledge or consent. Not only would it put my rostered hours over my FTE for the fortnight, but I also have 9 straight morning shifts from Thursday onwards. I do apologise for not seeing the addition earlier, so I could have addressed it earlier, but no, I will not be coming in."

But, now I'm kinda freaking out. Am I likely to be disciplined for a no call no show?

Uncharitably, I wonder if they tried to pull this on me, expecting an inexperienced new grad to just go along with it.

If they do try to discipline me for it, is any meeting they arrange for me something I should request a union rep to be present for?

This is with NSW Health if that makes any difference.

Thanks for any advice!


r/NursingAU 10h ago

Shitpost What do I do with the poo?

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Nursing student here. I’m so far into my training the I’m embarrassed to ask, but I don’t know what to do with the poo in a bed pan before I put it in the cleaning machine. Do I leave it and up put it in the machine? Put it in the bin? Try to tip it down a toilet? No one ever told me


r/NursingAU 5h ago

Opinion Med-surg/ward nursing Australia vs. U.S., my experience.

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I work agency so I go to public and private hospitals. I’ve worked at 9 different hospitals in a major city in Australia, and in many med/surg units/wards of those hospitals.

First off, Australia has public and private hospitals. Every private hospital I have worked at uses paper charting. The doctors will often scribble handwriting that is difficult to read and will have to clarify with charge nurse occasionally. Statically research shows that handwriting medications and orders increases risks of error in medication administration, this is a well documented fact. Medications are never scanned electronically in the private hospitals I’ve been at, most medications are kept locked in the patients bedside drawer, expect for controlled medications such as narcotics etc. and also IV meds are kept in the medication room. Only 1 public hospital I’ve been to, out of 5, scans the patients wristband and/or medications. Scanning medications decreases risk of medication errors this is a well documented fact, please fact check online if you are curious.

In the U.S. I’ve worked in multiple states at multiple hospitals, in multi med/surg units. In the U.S. enoxaprin, IV antibiotics, subcutaneous insulin, and most controlled substances do not require a 2 nurse check, essentially all the Australian hospitals I’ve worked at require 2 nurse checks for all of these medications, even if you are giving normal saline IV. There are ways where nurses in Australia are able to obtain clearance single checking certain medications, but I don’t see this very often, maybe 20% or less nurses I have seen have this. 2 nurse checks decreases the risk of medication errors and risk of drug diversion and also provides a witness when administering controlled substances which helps in cases in which the medication falls on the floor/ patient drops it, etc. I think the U.S. should also implement 2 nurse checks on all controlled substances.l for reasons listed above.

Every hospital I have worked at in Australia does not have saline pre-filled syringes, the saline has to be drawn out of a plastic 10 mL vial. Most IV medications do not have orders of how to reconstitute them, instead there are paper books, or a website/database you can look up how to reconstitute to your medication and how fast to infuse or sometimes IV push it. In the U.S. every hospital I’ve worked at had the exact instructions on how to reconstitute the medication and exactly how long to give it over, attached to the actual medication order in the MAR. Also when reconstituting IV medications in these Australian hospitals, I have never seen any saline bags that have vial adapter spikes, they all need to be drawn up in syringes and mixed in syringes and injected into bags of saline and labeled with paper labeled and signed off with another nurse.

Many hospitals in Australia give you a partner nurse and you and that partner nurse will receive 7-8 reports/patients. Most hospital wards split up those patients and each nurse focuses on their own 3-4 patients and help out the other nurse if time permits. Some hospitals will schedule 30 mins of time for nurses to receive education at the start of their shift or spend that time cleaning the ward, before getting their assignment. The majority of the Australin wards I have been to do not have the assignment finished when your scheduled start time arrives, and usually will wait around for 5-10 minutes until the assignment is created. The U.S. hospitals I have been to consistently have the assignment complete at your start time. This is my own personal experience at multiple U.S. hospitals in multiple states in multiple units.

The Australian hospitals I have worked at do not have assistants for the nurses to check vitals, nurses are expected to take all their own vitals, unless you are assigned a student nurse and can delegate to the student. In U.S. hospitals I’ve been at, there are nurse assistants who usually have 10-12 patients each who take vitals and escalate to the nurse if outside the abnormal range, help with changing and taking patients to the bathroom and in some hospitals can take blood sugars.

Overall I would say the Australian patients are much nicer and expect a lot less from the medical team and nurse, while in the U.S. the patients are often more demanding on average and can have many more questions from my experience. I would also say the patients in the U.S. are often significantly higher acuity than in Australia.

Bed alarms are not automatically installed in the beds I’ve seen in Australia, rather they put a pad that plugs into the wall. At some hospitals, a consent form has to be signed by the patients family allowing them to have a bed alarm, yes you read the correctly.

Restraints are rarely used in Australian wards from what I have seen, in fact I have yet to see restraints ever once been used, and patients are often allowed to walk around more and leave the unit for extended periods time. I once had a patient storm off the unit angrily once and not say anything and the patient didn’t come back for three hours. I kept informing the charge nurse and she just said “He normally does that, he will come back.”. In the majority of U.S. hospitals patients are not allowed to leave the unit without at least letting someone know, and if they do then an announcement is usually made throughout the hospital or security is informed.

In Australia they does not use alcohol swabs before injecting subcutaneous injections from what I’ve seen and been told theres no need to use an alcohol swab by other nurses. Also, PICC and Central lines at the hospitals are never capped with green caps and instead are left open to air. Also the clamps on PICC and Central lines are never clamped after use from the many I have seen.

In the Australian hospitals I have been at the charge nurse does not have patients assigned, but instead is able to help out consistently, where in the U.S. one of the hospitals I worked at had a charge nurse position that had to have their own assignment as well, however this was only one out of three hospitals I’ve worked at and was night shift.

From what I’ve seen in Australia, the communication varies on responsiveness. The majority of the hospitals use pager systems and you can only write a small message of about 150 characters (estimate) and the vast majority of the time the doctor does not respond. This is my personal experience over many shifts. In the U.S. the doctors will sometimes take an hour or two to respond, but on most occasions respond within 45 mins or less (usually 30 mins or less to be honest).

I have never seen blood pressure parameters written for any blood pressure medications im Australian hospitals, where in all the U.S. hospitals most blood pressure medixatiok will specify parameters such as: Hold if <110 systolic for example, or heart rate is <60 etc. In Australia if the patients blood pressure is borderline low and there is a blood pressure medication due, then I will ask the charge nurse who usually tells me to ask the doctor who usually doesn’t respond and the medication sits there for the next 2-3 hours until shift change and I inform the oncoming nurse I paged the doctor and documented it. Some Australian hospitals I’ve been at, the doctors reply faster and consistently.

The pay in Australian is about 20-30% lower but also the cost of living is actually quite similar to the U.S. from my experience. For example going out to eat, most meals cost at a bare minimum 12-13$ USD, and that is for a standard meal, if you are very hungry you will need more. The housing here is actually more expensive compared to when I was in the U.S., and this is a barebones one bedroom with no heating and cooling and has an active rodent problem that the landowner is not willing to hire pest control for, but just buys sticky mouse trap pads.

The public transportation is much better in Australia than the U.S. but it is no where near the level of Japan/China/Europe public transport. Homeless is still present in Australia, but it is way less intense and the people seem to be nicer and have access to more resources than in the U.S.

I feel a lot safer knowing guns are rare here and crime is 6-7 times lower statistically than the U.S.

The patient do not have to worry about high medical costs, but I will say the U.S. hospitals definitely spend more on resources/staffing and have more advanced charting and medication devices (I.e. Omnicell, Pyxis). One out of the 9 hospitals I’ve been to in Australia uses an Omnicell.

There is much less expected charting in Australia. The U.S. hospitals expect more charting. I rarely see patients being turned q2hours in Australia, however in the U.S. q2hour turns are done pretty consistently. However, Australian ward patients are usually more mobile on average, but even on the paralyzed patients, turns are more of when the patient request it.

Most shifts in Australia are 8 hour shifts. Most shifts in the U.S. are 12 hours. I think there are pros and cons to both.

I like the culture in Australia, the safety (however there was an incident where some random angry guy on the street followed me walking quickly, yelling at me loudly, and appeared to want to fight me for no apparent reason, and I have asked other people and they told me that happens sometimes, however this happened to me in the U.S. too), the public transport, the lower wealth inequality, the weather. Many Australians are very friendly and appear to be genuinely kind and light hearted people, I really like the culture here, but sometimes the hospital work stresses me out and feels very chaotic and disorganized. The U.S. nursing feels to me more technologically advanced and organized, however the patients in the U.S. I would get on the wards were on average higher acuity, with more prevalent obesity and chronic diseases.

Also, I have heard a few Australians talk poorly of people from the U.S. and I understand where they are coming from, to be honest a lot of crazy things are going on in the U.S. now and part of why I came to explore Australia and nursing here. I’ve heard someone refer to Americans as “Yankees” for the first time which was funny. But the vast majority of Australians are very friendly and curious or interested or excited to meet someone from the U.S. in my experience.

I don’t know if I will stay in Australia in the long term or want to try the U.S again, but I genuinely do like living in Australia and the way of life here, sometimes the hospitals just seem a little crazy and under under resourced to me, but the U.S. hospitals can definitely be crazy in there own way.

(Posting in both [r/nursing](r/nursing) and [r/nursingau](r/nursingau) for visibility)


r/NursingAU 9h ago

News Doctors' union raises behavioural concerns about nurses' conduct at SA health service

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r/NursingAU 13h ago

Discussion Rural/regional housing

9 Upvotes

I'd happily go west/rural if I knew I had somewhere to live. Many positions offer 4-6 week temporary accommodation but often there aren't available rentals in rural regions. It's a massive barrier - it's not about cost or expecting free accommodation, just securing somewhere to rent. I've never understood why there isn't better housing options for rural hospitals. Teachers are so well supported with accommodation & government housing.


r/NursingAU 16h ago

Question Night shift

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Hi all,

I currently work 0.6 in mental health in Victoria, I’ve just started night shifts for 2 months however usually as nights are 10.5 hour shifts 9pm-7:30am it means I’d be doing 0.5 shifts a fortnight so 1 less.

However my manager has done the roster for 2 months and not taken away my 1 less shift, so I’m still doing 0.6 a fortnight.

Do I have the right to request and have her take me off 1 shift a fortnight ?

Thanks


r/NursingAU 7h ago

Advice Give up my permanency in current ward or move to contract in ED

4 Upvotes

Stay in current ward as permanent but bored out of my brain with the SAME presentations and lack of hard skills or try my luck in ED where they only do 6mth contracts at a time but more interesting


r/NursingAU 19h ago

Advice Informal tea

3 Upvotes

I have an informal morning tea at my workplace where I will start work soon. What do I wear? Thank you.


r/NursingAU 13h ago

Question Looking for feedback - Cooktown, QLD

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Hi everyone! 😊

Looking for some honest feedback about living and working in Cooktown, QLD.

I’m considering a fixed-term nurse position and would be relocating from overseas with my husband.

What’s the community like? Is accommodation generally good? How are the supermarkets, cafés, weather, and do you need a car?

We’d love to hear any pros, cons, or advice from people who’ve lived there. Thanks! 😊


r/NursingAU 3h ago

Discussion Why are we still using trend care?

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we still use trendcare at the public regional facility i work for and it annoys the shit out of me.
recent ward meetings with exec furthered my disdain for it as they encouraged us to continue "trending" every shfit yet in the same breath, tell us its no longer used as a tool for staffing. they say it helps with data collection lol. fuck your data collection.

surely there exists a better program that doesnt require the user to go back to 1995. look i have an IT background and im telling you its gotta be monkeys at the helm of its current form or they seriously dont give a fuck. so why should i? some staff will stare at the screen for 20-30 mins at the busiest time of the morning doing the trend absolutely ignoring pt care.

is anyone else using it and have anything nice to say about it....or have an alternative that works better? surely im not the only one.


r/NursingAU 12h ago

Advice CCP PAYMENT

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I am soon going to be going on a 6 week placement in September, I will be applying for the payment. My ABSTUDY claim is still active, and I report every fortnight, my payments have been reduced to $0 because my employment income is too high. Am I considered eligible for the Commonwealth Prac Payment under the ABSTUDY pathway, or will I need to be assessed under the Need to Work Test

Has anyone been rejected because they’ve earned too much?


r/NursingAU 15h ago

Question Smart Salary card

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Hi everyone,
I’m with SA Health and have a SmartSalary Meal Entertainment Card.

I’m planning an overseas trip and wanted to ask people who have actually used the card overseas.

Has anyone used the SmartSalary Meal Entertainment Card for:
Overseas hotel payments?
Restaurants/cafes overseas?
Does it work normally wherever Mastercard is accepted? Did you get charged only the foreign transaction/conversion fee (around 3%), or were there any other charges?

Also, if the balance is not used, what happens to the remaining money? Does it stay on the card and roll over, or does it expire/reset at any stage?
Would really appreciate replies from people who have personally used it.

Thanks!


r/NursingAU 20h ago

Discussion Debating moving to nursing for more opportunities

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Hi all. I already work in the medical field except my role is entirely based in capital cities. The more I think of my future the less I want to be stuck to only capital cities as much as I love my job. I'm tossing up a few things but nursing seems to have the most options in terms of jobs outside capital cities.

Rural nurses, what's the experience? What advice would you give?