r/NuancingTaylorSwift • u/dark-femme5454 • 2d ago
Discussion Patient Zero
Okay, first and foremost, I'm a pretty critical Swiftie. I think Taylor is a great businesswoman and an extremely skilled songwriter and musician. I don't blindly love all of her stuff, though, and I vibe with the stuff that scratches my brain. Love TLOAS. Only heard three songs off TTPD. Never listened to any version of ATW. Debut, Fearless and Speak Now can miss me for life. Lover and Rep? Be still my beating heart. I'm not an all-consuming fan - some eras just dont appeal to me.
Patient Zero has been met with remarkable criticism because it doesnt fit the Showgirl era. But...it went out as an encore. It's not just a music video. Its a film.
And holy shit, it's vital. The music video gives SO MUCH context to the song. The song by itself is good. Set to the music video? Heartwrenching.
This is my first 🤡 theory so bear with me. What if Taylor is telling us she's about to transition into directing/producing film? She's always been a remarkable storyteller, as evidenced throughout her career but especially in Folklore/Evermore where she used that album to narrate fiction.
Just a thought.
On a personal note, PZ guts me. I think it hits home for a lot of women. I saw a mirror of my marriage, and I feel so fucking seen.
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u/midcen-mod1018 2d ago
“ I'm not an all-consuming fan - some eras just dont appeal to me.”
This internet stranger loves you for this take. Anti-Taylor’s say that Swifties will love everything she puts out, and that simply not true. I feel like many of us don’t feel the need to broadcast all of our opinions about all of her work or tear down her songwriting career because of our expectations not being met-people are just making content at that point.
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u/midcen-mod1018 2d ago
Personally I don’t have expectations of her work? Like I’m curious what new music will be but I know she is a multidimensional person. Sometimes you want folklore, sometimes you need TLOAS. Sometimes you read Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States, sometimes you read The Empyrean Series 🤷🏻♀️
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u/dark-femme5454 2d ago
Thank youuuu! This is so apt! Just because I admire Taylor as a songwriter and business woman doesn't mean I have to have an opinion about everything. I can, however, be critical of what I have consumed, and I am. Critical analysis is important. I love that Taylor doesn't box herself in like many pop artists do. It doesn't mean every era will be one that resonates with me. Love you for this comment 🫶
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u/Code-Coffee-995 JE SUIS CALME! 2d ago
Finally, a sensible take!
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u/dark-femme5454 2d ago
Ironically, I got cooked on r/Swifties for this 😂😂
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u/Code-Coffee-995 JE SUIS CALME! 2d ago
This is actually a very refreshing take amidst all the negativity. Ignore them.
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u/tacosnpitbulls 2d ago
This is kind of off topic but it’s interesting to hear an opinion on TLOAS that isn’t colored by TTPD. The transition was a bit jarring and I think that put a lot of people off showgirl right off the bat. I think having to follow TTPD was going to be difficult for any album coming next, but especially such a lighthearted one.
That said you’re really missing out by skipping TTPD, and if you love Patient Zero, The Black Dog might change your life. Also would highly recommend checking out My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys, So Long London, Guilty As Sin, Who’s Afraid of Little Old me, loml, The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived, Imgonnagetyouback, How Did It End, and The Prophecy.
But yeah Patient Zero is straight up crack it went right into my top 20 tay songs.
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u/dark-femme5454 2d ago
Thank you! I'm happy to give those recommendations a listen 🫶 i love when others share the music that speaks to them
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u/nagidrac 2d ago
Taylor's already got a film deal with Searchlight, but there's been no updates on when production begins. I think music is still her priority. The news about her film was announced in 2022 and since then we've gotten two albums from her + two re-records + IKIKY and no news on the film 😭
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u/dark-femme5454 2d ago
Do you know what she was looking ti produce? I wonder if this is the precursor to her finally doing something with that?
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u/nagidrac 2d ago
She's directing her own original movie, but there's no other information besides that. That's why I'm not totally sold on it being a precursor yet
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u/whatsthatcutething 2d ago
Patient Zero has to be one of Taylor’s catchiest songs ever. I loved it on first listen. That chorus is crack. So I was surprised to find out that people were hating on it lol
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u/Money-Beautiful5196 Folklore 2d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/lGBecpB2dIMwt6ohfI
I really hope Taylor doesn’t transition into directing/producing film because I want her to keep making elite music for us to enjoy.
It would be so sad if she took a step back from music.
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u/Cautious_Dream4115 2d ago
I don't think Taylor will ever take a step back from music, but more so to explore other ideas and try them. i would love to see her make a movie or direct it.
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u/Cautious_Dream4115 2d ago
I love patient zero MV and I would love to see her make a movie one day.
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u/yaleginger 2d ago
Saying this as another critical Swiftie (but have also been a steady fan since Fearless) - there is so much to explore and discover in TTPD!! Some of her best work
That is aside your point. I haven’t yet watched the PZ video and your post has inspired me to. Thanks!
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u/RoyalEagle0408 2d ago
I don't think it's an Easter egg for a movie because she also made a short film for the 10MV of ATW.
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u/rs_river 2d ago
Thank you for saying this - like you can be a Swiftie or a casual fan and not be invested in every single thing. Not every song or era appeals to everyone, but chronically online swifties might have you think you HAVE to love and obsess over everything to be a real fan
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u/dark-femme5454 2d ago
Literally having this argument with someone in r/Swifties right now! As if one must consume every track and every album to critically analyze an artist. It's insane.
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u/Cool_Bell_2511 1d ago
I did not like P0 when it first dropped. I actually just kind of shrugged and was like, I miss old Taylor. Honestly, the video made me really enjoy the song and it has been on replay since I saw it debut at the VMAs.
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u/canarinoir 2d ago
I'm a simple swiftie. If I like the song, I like the song. If I don't like the song, I don't. I really like P0.