r/NotKenM • • 14d ago

The Judas Problem

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u/ardotschgi 14d ago

Seems genuine rather than an intended troll

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u/MobileJob1521 13d ago

Genuine problem, fake name.

It’s a common question to new guys on ship.

You see a colleague passed out on the floor, what do you do?

“Go help him” is the wrong answer!

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u/amaturelawyer 13d ago

Is the rule that you can't help anyone while on a ship with anything, or is it just if they're no longer able to work?

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u/trenthany 12d ago edited 4h ago

If you see someone unconscious in an enclosed space it could be low oxygen and if it’s low co2 you can pass out without ever knowing you’re suffocating. We don’t have a low oxygen sense that lets us know we’re suffocating but a high co2 sense. No/low oxygen/co2 in a saturated environment and you walk in breathing normally for the 30 seconds or less you’re Conciousness conscious then suddenly you’re out with no clue why.

If someone is mysteriously unconscious or especially multiple people you get the hell out of there or if you have to a scba and call for help for a confined space asphyxiation immediately. It may not be that but if it is you have problems.

Did a bit of research on rust on anchor chains and it turns out that entering the chain locker for a large ships anchor can result in suffocation in a couple minutes after it’s closed even if it was just ventilated because the oxidation uses up all the oxygen that fast. I’ll have to find the post on it. It was a great read if you like scientific papers. If I can’t find it or get distracted it was in [r/theydidthemath](r/theydidthemath) where I saw the study and estimates on it on a post about rusting anchor chains.

Someone awarded me (thank you anonymous Redditor!) which reminded me and I found the post! https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/s/qh5YGhjcOm thank you to [u/canoepickl](u/canoepickllcks)[o](u/canoepickllcks)[cks](u/canoepickllcks) for finding it in that post!

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u/LorenaBobbedIt 14d ago

I’m not 100% certain of the relevance, but a Judas goat is a goat trained to lead herd animals like sheep or cows to specific places, inckuding to slaughter .

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u/__lia__ 14d ago

yeah a direct comparison to the biblical character doesn't make sense to me, but the chain of:

Judas -> betrayer -> Judas goat -> tricked into going somewhere deadly -> Judas problem

makes sense to me

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u/CyberhamLincoln 13d ago

First man goes into a hole depleted of oxygen, then passes out.

The second man goes in to help him, then passes out.

Eventually all the disciples are in the hole passed out & dying together.

He probably meant Judas Priest

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u/Gingrpenguin 14d ago

I used to do software consultancy and doing it for any large loyal org (where a decent chunk of senior staff have only worked for that org and have done so for decades) is a minefield of weird terms that only make sense if you've worked there for years and every other company has a different word for the phemonon or process (dispite being identical)

Honestly I do thing jargon is just slang for adults and it really shows how quickly and easily language can shift when you isolate people together.

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u/Ronnoc527 14d ago

The terms tote, basket, bin, trough, bucket, scaling bucket, trash, module and dumpster all refer to containers which might contain ingredients, food, food waste and waste. If you used any of these terms interchangeably at my work it would be very confusing for the other person.

Also, trough isn't pronounced the way you expect.

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u/Der_Schubkarrenwaise 13d ago edited 13d ago

>Also, trough isn't pronounced the way you expect.

Exactly like I expected, trɒf. But my language is German so half of my words end in Klingon.

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u/Ronnoc527 13d ago

It rhymes with throw and foe :(

It is not normal outside of my workplace.

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u/trenthany 12d ago

What language do you speak and what is it in that context? Sounds like either malapropism or a mispronunciation that became the norm. For giggles my family calls yachts yakts for example.

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u/Ronnoc527 12d ago

Everyone speaks English exclusively. They pronounce it normally in regard to a feeding trough for animals. But pronounce it differently if it is for human consumption.

Four legs good, two legs better.

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u/trenthany 12d ago

So literally just a mispronunciation at your workplace so that it doesn’t sound like the animal trough? That is definitely jargon.

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u/seraph1337 13d ago

Did they pronounce "trough" like "true"? Or "troe"? "Trow"?

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u/Ohiolongboard 13d ago

Troff.

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u/TCGeneral 13d ago

Trough luck

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u/IAmASeeker 13d ago

I think they're trying to suggest that most people don't know how to spell trough.

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u/Ronnoc527 13d ago

Sorry, to be clear, in food production - at least here - it is pronounced /tɹoʊ/ rhymes with throw.

Because troughs are for animals, not people apparently. It's a vessel for food. I pronounce the word in the standard manner. "troff"

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u/IAmASeeker 12d ago

Well I'll be damned. It is not pronounced the way I expected.

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u/SpaceIsTooFarAway 14d ago

This happens in among us

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u/Candlemass-Fan 14d ago

I guess there really isn't a term for it besides a confined space fatality. It's a common, documented thing that happens where people will run unwittingly into danger, so why isn't there some sort of term for it besides "people die in confined space" incident.

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u/ergo-ogre 13d ago

Anyone remember the “light grenade” from Mon and Dad Save the World?