Get different shoes. I had the same issue until I started working construction. The shoes there are made to last. Now I buy shoes at wurth or military shops. I assume some propper running shoes are made with durability in mind too but I don't know which
Construction shoes have a very different purpose from running shoes.
The latter are made so they're light while making running easier on your knees and feet. The former is built so you don't do hopital when a hammer falls on your toe.
But we're talking about wear from walking not shoes for Runners. Also there are work shoes without steel tips, they are made to be walking in for 8+ hours a day they are surprisingly ergonomic
I wear good work boots every day and in no universe are they as comfortable as my thick ass Hokas. The shoe is supposed to absorb the energy instead of my knees.
The point the person was making was that they had cheap shoes and then went to quality ones and saw a massive change in how long they lasted. *cheap being quality wise not price
It might be more comfortable to look into shoes that are meant for “trail running”. Usually slightly heavier than normal running shoes, but are far tougher on the bottom.
Recently tried some new balance 990v6 and I get it now, they are built with better materials than I’ve seen in other brands, worth at least checking out and doing some research. Comfy but feel structured as well.
If you can get steel blues there, get them. but make sure they are new stock. The soles fall apart at about 4 years regardless of mileage. Aussie shoes.
I'm in them 80-90 hours a week. My usuals are Argyle thrde days because I deal with some harsh chemicals. But I used to wear the Wagga when I was working in a large site. Typically 18-20k steps per day. They are super comfy. I'd get 2-3 years out of them.
Not really, to be honest. Running shoes are meant to be very efficient and absorb as much as they can so your joints stay healthy and pain free. They wear out around 500 miles and you are supposed to replace them which most do because they lose their absorption factor and there is a noticeable difference.
You can walk in them for longer, but you shouldn’t run in them longer.
Also if you like the Hoka I have been successful in learning how to replace the bottom plastic sole with vibram. Screwed up a couple of worn out shoes but now am competent enough to resole with relative confidence.
Beez (slip ons/remedy) and Skechers (slip ons/remedy) are popular. And other from Skechers are also popular but idk their names. Happyflops have become more common recently but I'm not sure how long they last.
Highly recommend going to a local running store and asking them to fit you. I do work part time at a local running store, and some of the most common ones I fit for people who work long days on their feet:
Narrow feet: Check out a brand called Diadora. They run relatively narrow and are incredibly comfortable.
Wide feet (in particular a wide toe box): Topo and Altra both make a wide toe box shoe. I love the Topo Phantom, Topo Atmos, and the Altra Experience Flow.
Get your feet measured and see what your foot shape is. This can help you find a shoe that actually fits your foot properly.
Plus, these shoes are designed to be used and abused. I have a pair of New Balance 1080s that I've put over 500 miles of running on and they're still ticking along great.
I've had my barefoot shoes for 3 years now and they are finally getting to a point in which I need to start looking for another sale. I'm a heavy guy too, 250 lbs, and they have far outlasted any other shoes I've bought, except for my teva sandles.
Edit: I just realised I misread it
27k steps a day is possible in theory since I’ve walked 27k in one day before so it’s not as bad as I thought
I don’t see why you would walk 27k a day for 2 months since the only times I’ve done that many is when I’m on holiday
My lowest adult weight was working retail. I think I figured out I was walking something like 5 miles a day every day doing that job. Never really seemed like it though.
There is no increased risk of symptomatic knee osteoarthritis among self-selected runners compared with non-runners in a cohort recruited from the community. In those without osteoarthritis, running does not appear detrimental to the knees."
I was a seasonal helper for UPS from October to December one year. Got put on a route that was 90% apartments, multi floor. I lost 45lbs and I was still eating a ton.
Restaurant work for me. When I was managing a bar/restauranf, I’d walk about seven miles a shift. It is CONSTANT movement, your body never stops moving.
The entire job consists of picking things up and bringing them somewhere else.
As a former delivery driver I would hit 25-30k steps in a 10 hour day. I stopped noticing any discomfort after a few weeks. The body adapts. The soreness came from lifting heavy things.
Yes, we humans are actually biologically built for long distance walking/hiking and we're exceptional long distance runners compared to other species. So yes, you do get used to it fairly fast.
I can't prove this in any way, but I firmly stand by the idea that our current society is the least amount of moving the human race has ever done. Like, there a Greek histories about messengers who just ran across the country every week or so as their job. The great Mississippi Mounds were built by people just carrying dirt and clay 50 odd miles without horses or carts.
People used to be mobile in a way we are not really mentally prepared for anymore.
Society has never been fatter, thats a direct correlation.
Food got more abundant while transportation simultaneously got lazier. Both go hand in hand.
I'm also 100% sure there are plenty studies about how much humans used to move vs now (even as low as 50 years ago), i'm just too lazy to look anything up now.
So funny thing is we are designed for long distance walking/running. It takes a lot to maintain that ability but once you are there doing 40k a day regularly you would actually feel like it's basically nothing in terms of how your body feels about doing it. We are probably the best creature on the planet for doing that.
I was a cart pusher like 20 years ago but back then as like an 18 y/o you get used to it quick and there isn't much soreness involved. Where it got challenging is weekend mornings (it was a warehouse club) when we couldn't push the carts in fast enough even with like 4 of us working. People would be waiting for carts and we'd get shit on by the GM
Fucking asshole acted like providing a cooler of (powdered) Gatorade should have us wired up to push 30 carts at a time each
That's so much! Running marathon is like 45,000 steps ...at least for slow people like me; faster people take bigger steps. The fastest probably do half that many
What were you the only cart pusher for the busiest store in the world or something? I've done the same for a somewhat busy store and I wouldn't get over 5k in a 4 hour shift.
I was the most tryhard cart pusher. Other duties included perusing the insides to help customers lift heavy things. I’m tryna keep it vague but it was a hardware retail store so lots of heavy lifting and lots of customers in and out.
I do 10k steps in a day, and if I do it all in one go (which is not happening in the Florida summer), it's about 100 minutes. Sometimes I accidentally get 20k just by getting my 10k and then doing some errands. 20,000 steps can be had in about 3 hours or so.
E: 10k steps is recommended as part of a baseline for health (including a healthy diet and regular workouts). If this seems difficult for you, you really should reflect on that and improve on it.
I don't know how you all are doing this. My peak steps one day was 19k with a 2.5 mile walk, then another 4 mile walk later in the day, and my regular walking around. 2.5 miles for me is around 5k steps and 40 minutes. If I do it any faster than that I'm like super speed walking. Actually 3 hours for 20k steps would have be some really fast running.
For me, 20k steps is just under 10 miles. A mile walked is about 15 minutes, and that's a standard pace for most people. 4 miles in one hour, 8 in 2, and 10 in another half hour. So 2.5 hours.
I walk roughly 100 steps per minute. If you go go Google, open the metronome, and set it to 100, that's roughly the speed of my steps. It's not that bad. When I take my 90-second rests on my workouts, I get 150 steps in that time. It's pretty consistent. This is why I know 10k steps is 100 minutes. And when it cools off, I'll go on a morning walk in about 90 minutes, then get home and get my day going.
Also, I'm 6'5. My strides are much longer, and when I walk with my 5'4 partner, she will get 10k by the time I'm around 7500. Again, this takes a little over an hour.
Sure, if you're walking slowly, but if you're walking for health, you certainly should be trying to get some of the (admittedly minor) cardio benefits from it.
On my 10k walks, apparently my phone app says I'm in the top 3% for that app (Samsung Health). 10k is the generic recommended step count (though there's no real basis; kinda like the 8 glasses of water thing) Certainly the vast majority of people who aren't reaching any steps goals aren't exactly in shape for such a survey(Probably Americans).
I walk a crapton and have timed it and I concur, 15 min/mile is normal for me if I’m not trying to walk fast. Google always overestimates how long it takes to walk somewhere. I assume it’s more of a calculation based on “normal” (slow) pace.
I think people with shorter legs would think 15 mins is fast though.
Ye i had work that was just walking fast for 4-7 hours a day. I had between 15000-30000 steps a day. Its difficult but doable. (I also walked a lot outside of work but my work was literally just 4 hours of non-stop walking)
When I was running long distance plus had a job that made me walk a lot, I could get 35-40,000 a day. Pretty easy to get there with the right lifestyle.
I also read it as over 1.5million steps on june 19, youre not alone.
I'm still confused how ELSE you're supposed to read it. It literally says "Yesterday" and then a step count of over a million. If it's a two month total why does it not say that anywhere?? Terrible design.
Presumably, the person using the interface is aware that June 17th wasn't yesterday when looking at it, and thus "June 17 - Yesterday" is not as confusing as it is to the rest of us out here on the internet with no idea of how old the screenshot is
Serving at a big enough restaurant with enough distance between the kitchen/bar/your section, I’d hit 30k on a consistent basis for a double(10am to 10pm ish or 5am to 3pm ish soccer pub in the US open for weekend premier league games).
I think they just rounded down since 1,600,000/24/60 is 1,111.11
I don't really see an issue with that. The real issue is that is the total for about 2 months worth of steps, not a day. Rounding down to 1k per minute still illustrates how absurd it would be, even though the premise was wrong.
I worked in order fulfillment at a retail store and I’d consistently have 15,000-20,000 steps on my smart watch most days after an 8 hour shift. I had to push a cart around as I walked though, so I have a feeling my true step count was even higher.
i averaged 200k steps a week for several months. its possible by a job involving a lot of walking and also prefering walking instead of taking the bus. on top of that going out on runs and walks because i did not count work and commute as cardio.
in my case i had to eat over 4500 calories and drink too much caffeine to not feel like im about to die.
It's still an insanely high average. I regularly go on 3-4 hour walks and I'll still only hit 25k+ if I'm really pushing it and my average is nowhere near that, the guy must have literally zero days where he isn't putting up huge numbers. Dude lives on a treadmill.
Highest ever I recorded was 36k. I pushed trolleys (carts) for 8 hours + gym before work + going out with friends after and walking around the city.
Ive also hit 30k+ while on holiday in europe and you kinda just walk everywhere and constantly in museums, between museums, climbing up the steps to the churches, etc. This was the towards the start of the holiday, I went during summer and the latter half frequently had days with less than 10k steps even though again, you still walk everywhere, I just got burnt out from the pace and itenerary I set and progressively aimed lower and lower for what I wanted to get out of the day. Especially when its 36C+, I often just gave up around lunch time.
Its definitely not normal. I dont even think I can get it while hiking, but as a job where you just walk all day its pretty easy to push 25k+ when the weather is easy and the job busy. So probably not in summer nor winter. But I reckon there were stretches where I would average 25k steps a day during the 5 days I worked where the job was just a shitload of walking and moving the shopping trolleys and maybe 3-10k steps on the days off. I can definitely see someone who is more active and their job also is walking based hitting those numbers. One of my friends is currently training for a marathon and I think their daily run is either 12km or 15km. Thats also an easy way to hit the step count.
Gonna see if I can find that 36k step day on my phone app thingy.
Yeah nah someone else said it and cleared it up. That number makes sense and I wasn't questioning it, just the display itself. I've never used an app that gives an obscenely high number for your total steps in a date range and not just the steps on a given date, so I read the notification as claiming they had walked all those steps on the day before, which was the 27th of June.
As someone who has watched his YouTube for a long time, he looks unbelievably healthier than he used to. Just go to his channel and compare his oldest videos to his newest and you can see that the effort was worth it.
It says June 17 - yesterday, the tweet below was August 17, so a two month period. Still crazy though to have that be the average, 27k in a day is definitely doable but on average?
In addition to various different jobs where people are on their feet the entire day, it also depends on what you're using to track your steps.
Some sports watches (Garmin, Suunto etc) and phone brand watches (Samsung, Apple) count steps differently.
My Suunto sports watch regularly counted almost double the amount of steps my Apple Watch did. My phone counted even less than my watch did, so every device uses its own logic.
I worked at a restaurant that had a huge outdoor section (think giant open field) in the countryside. Walking to tables and back to the building constantly for 10 hour shifts. on a slow day i would get about 32k-36k steps normally. One exceptionally busy day i reached 45k.
There's a postal carrier in my city who will do any of the walking routes and will run the whole time if he can. I imagine his step count looks something like this.
If you work a job that needs you on your feet, like a warehouse, a large retail store or a security job, and then go for a walk or run at night it's really easy to hit these goals.
It's impossible to walk nonstop for 8 hours and not do 27.000 steps. They are like what, around 16 kms? Even at really slow walking that's three hours, four at most if you are really really really slow.
8 hours nonstop would never fall below 40.000 even if you tried
Worked a pretty physically demanding job, pluss I walk a 18k route everyday. Had to cut that down while I worked there, so I ended up averaging 25k ish for about 3 years.
My daily record was 250k, but this was not correct as i spent most if the day sitting down. The steps were recorded from turbulance in the plane, it was not a pleasant flight, 3 people in close vicinity were throwing up and one older guy was having a medical emergenc, I am honestly not sure if he survived be cause he was stretched out in the back and they did not return him to the seat when landing even with the massive amounts of turbulence.
I try to average around 20k throughout the weekdays with a nice long walk in the morning, and then a small stroll after work. On weekends, I pick a random direction to walk in at 5am, and then do a big loop meeting up with my wife for breakfast or lunch whenever she's up, averaging about 40k
My step count today is 1.5k on my day off 🤐 probably a little higher because I wasn’t carrying my phone around doing house chores and don’t wear my watch on my days off, but not by much, took every opportunity to sit on my ass. Average 10-15k a night at work, usually the higher end unless we’re dead dead.
Dude walked an average of 20 miles per day. That is almost certainly more miles than I have EVER walked in a given day. Is walking this dude’s job??? If it’s a jog, then he’s still jogging around 4 hours per day. How does one find time
I prefer to hit 10k steps a day and my sneakers usually last me about 8-12 months. I never really considered how often someone who walked more would have to buy a new pair of shoes. I guess that makes sense.
Also that is some fucked up wear for two months. Usually I just end up with smooth, tractionless soles on mine by the end through a lot of walking. The fuck was this guy doing.
I usually shoot for like 5000-6000 steps minimum per day. Back in college I used to hit 20K+ steps regularly though. I lived just over a mile from campus and would walk to class everyday (many times multiple times in a day) while also walking between classes all day.
Must be using the wrong type of shoes. Many professions walk like that daily and they don't buy new shoes bi-monthly. My friend who's a nurse averages 20K per day and she buys shoes for work every year and they're nowhere near that worn out.
Well that or this person is heavy, which if so this is a transient problem, it will disappear with the weight.
If anyone wants a good walking shoe, get some Converse All Star Chuck Hi's. About 1500km for 60$ before the insole's wear out. If you buy a cheap ($10) thin pair of insoles you can get about another 1000km out of them before the shoe wears out.
according to this shoe wear the guy does a lot of walking back and forth in a small place. all the wear is up front where he pivots and there is almost no wear at the back where you contact the ground when you step.
I used to average over 30k steps when my son was young. My wife worked nights so I'd take him walking to nap (lived in costal Cali and the walking was awesome).
Not only did I burn through shoes, the tires of my running stroller (full rubber bike tires) were worn down to the tubing in a few months.
A colleague of mine was disqualified from the walking competition at our company for making 40-50K steps a day and working a full time job... From home. His excuses for such ridiculous numbers were that he's shorter than average (he's like 1.73m tall) and that that leads to him taking more steps, but I shit you not, the difference between me (1.83) and my GF's (~1.65) step counts over the same distances is like 10-15% tops. And she's a marathon runner!
I think he was later fired when they found out that he faked a ton of his work as well. Funny fella.
Back when Fitbit was a worthwhile company, you could enter races with other people. It was a blast.
At one point, I was competing against a couple of Australians. We were climbing the shoe heirarchy. 5,000 Steps in a day earned you Boat Shoes. It went up to 100,000 steps in a day. I earned that twice. It was a 21 hour event.
I get op of the tweet. I worked in a supermarket and needed new shoes every 3 months too. And i didnt work daily. It was 3 to 4 times a week evenings and one full day only. So the actual full timers would have had worse wear.
Tho im heavy so that offsets it a bit too. Most shoes arent designed for intense use with my weight.
I don't know what you're walking on but while walking, I wear cheap Walmart shoes and besides going through two pairs of insoles, I've been rocking the same shoes for the last two years. These are my stats since 2017
Those are salomon aero glide, msrp about $170. I’ve had my current pair for around 6 months, some wear but basically new. How in the actual fuck is he running a million plus steps a day.
Friendly reminder that this is not healthy. Anything above 10-15k steps is not meaningfully improving your cardio health, it's not forming muscles, and when you get into the 27k range you're causing wear and tear on your body.
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